Live Poll: Must See Spanish-Language Movies of This Century

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There are many great movies in which Spanish is the main language, the majority of them are not well known by the general public. This selection of movies, all from this century, has less than 20000 votes.

Which is your favourite film or, if you haven't seen them, which one seems more interesting to you?
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls047023593/


Poll: https://www.imdb.com/poll/XsWuX93Vi38/
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Posted 7 months ago

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Not sure I would keep this "they usually have little international recognition" in the introduction... or the "underrated grade".

First, I think it's a matter of opinion, even it was right in objective terms, you would have to make estimations out of all the movies nominated for the Best Foreign Film Oscar and determine where Spanish-speaking countries stand among other competitors such as France, Sweden, Italy, Japan etc. and maybe do the same thing for the Golden Bear, the Palme d'Or etc.

Not saying you're wrong, maybe what you said was an understatement but even then why not just keep the space to make a nice tribute to Spanish-speaking cinema, a bit about Bunuel the pioneer, a bit about Almodovar or Del Toro instead of some 'angry fan' comments if I may say (with a friendly smile).


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Hi Yonyx,

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You should have a clear criteria on how did you choose those movies. There are thousnads of films in Spanish, are those festival winners? Oscar nominees? do they have a minimum of votes or rating?

Also, I think this was a suggestion made before https://www.imdb.com/poll/bvguukSU73E/ so you should try to make it different somehow
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I like your poll suggestion, especially the dual English and Spanish feature.

But I agree with both of  Pencho15 observations.Your list seems to be mostly highly rated IMDb 7.0+rated movies with votes from 1,000 to 100,000+, but undefined. Pbn's poll answer list for ¿Cuál es la mejor película en español? includes films that are primarily in Spanish with an IMDb rating of 7.5 or more from at least 25,000 voters. While his asks asks the best question and pbn asks the favorite question, the danger is that the will be to similar.

If some parameters that are different like Spanish-language Best foreign-language Oscar winners/nominees culled from (ie List of Academy Award winners and nominees for Best Foreign Language Film) or Highest Spanish-language Box Office Movies culled from (ie All-Time Top Grossing Spanish-Language Films in the U.S.)  or (ie Box Office Mojo's Domestic Box Office Foreign Language 1980-Present) were used it would be better. You still might have a lot of the same movies in the end, but it would at least create a unique poll suggestion with a different spin that is more likely to go live.

I also agree ElM's observation on removing "they usually have little international recognition" in the introduction... or the "underrated grade".  Most movies because they represent an average tend to move to the middle. Movies that you or I would score a 10 or 9 will get low 8 high 7 overall IMDb ratings. Conversely, movies at the bottom tend to get overrated. Movies that you or I would score a 1 or 2 will get low 3 high 2 overall IMDb ratings. It just the law of averages where minority voters voting the opposite of the majority voters will move the average to the middle.
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¿Dónde está Volver, Hable con ella?
Usted no puede dejar fuera.

Pero no creo que sean muy poco reconocidos como usted dice. Sí, ellos no tienen tanto como los americanos, pero eso es universal.
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Thank you very much for your replys. It was my first poll and I was not sure of the whole process, now I will take into consideration all the suggestions.

Can I do a new similar survey from zero in another thread? It would be a new survey with different Spanish-language films better explained and with a clearer criteria.



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Is that necessary?
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This is normal, most poll suggestions evolve from being good suggestions (initial) to better ones (final), based on outside feedback. You should just decide on the criteria you want to to use, the modify your introduction, question and answer options using the existing list.That final list version is what in the end will be published. It is better to do the existing thread, so the polls progression can be seen and comments aren't duplicated. I wouldn't worry about the poll thread header matching, as this happens all the time and once complete your title and revised question can be updated by the editors.
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Yonyx,

I fully agree with what Jeorj and urbanemovies wrote.

Creating, suggesting and refining polls is not particularly hard, but it involves time, effort and a certain amount of collaboration. This thread is a record of how your initially created and refined your poll suggestion. Having one thread associated with a poll makes it easier to review the poll and helps to reduce duplicate recommendations.
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What do you think now?

I have only included movies with less than 7.5 in IMDb (between 6.2 and 7.4), with no minimum votes. I have put fewer options to make the decision to choose simpler.

I have also fixed the capitals in the title and I have inserted the link of this survey.

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls047023593/

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It is a step in the right direction.

But, I think it has too many not well-seen titles (half have less than 2,500 votes). I think most poll makers set a floor of minimum votes (10k, 25k or higher) to ensure enough options that poll takers actually have seen. I think the bar can be set a bit lower for Spanish-Language movies. While, you may have seen all of these movies, but most poll takers will struggle to find more than a handful of options (if any) to choose from.

I also think you need a catchier, shorter title that is interesting enough for someone to want to click on and take your poll. You can mention the scope in a poll introduction or sentence.

I still think focusing on a theme is a MUST: Highest Spanish-Language Box Office Movies, Oscar-Nominated Spanish-Language Movies or something else.

As your list stands now, it just seem like a random list of Spanish-Language movies. But, If you are going to do a personal list, you could hand-pick lower profile movies but not not too low from a search Feature Film User Rating between 6.5 and 10 Rating Count at least 5,000 votes in Spanish (Sorted by IMDb Rating Descending) (sorry, couldn't exclude English titles) or Feature Film User Rating between 6.5 and 10 Rating Count between 5,000 and 25,000 Spanish (Sorted by IMDb Rating Descending) (sorry, couldn't exclude English titles) and call it something like, Hidden Gems of Spanish-Language Cinema or a theme of your own choosing.
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The description is much better, but from your current list I could not vote, I know around half of the films but I have not seen any of them.

I am from a Spanish speaking country so I'm more related to this films, but my guess is most IMDb users would not even hear about this movies. You could rephrase the question in a slightly different way that has been used in other polls to avoid a problem with this: Which is your favourite film or, if you haven't seen them, which one seems more interesting to you? That way anyone could vote it doesn't matter if they have seen the films or not.


Ha mejorado mucho la descripción, aunque de tu lista actual yo en lo personal no podría votar, pues aunque conozco varias (no todas) no he visto ninguna.

Siendo que yo soy hispanohablante, lo mas probable es que la gente que mas está en la IMDb no haya siquiera oído de estas cintas. Una opción para evitar que esto sea un problema es formular la pregunta de este modo: ¿cuál es tu película favorita o, si no las conoces, cual te interesa mas ver? Así cualquiera puede votar las haya visto o no.
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I don't know which is the best movie but the best series is La Casa De Papel
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I have taken your suggestions into consideration (I have done a bit of copy paste xD) and here are the changes in the description.

I have also put at least 1000 votes and all are films of this century.

Hidden Gems of Spanish-Language Cinema

There are many great movies in which Spanish is the main language, the majority of them are not well known by the general public. This movie selection has less than 7.5 in IMDb and at least 1000 votes.

Which is your favourite film or, if you haven't seen them, which one seems more interesting to you?

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls047023593/

Thank you.

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What are the criteria?
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Of the items in the recomposed list, the only one I've seen is XXY. I would be most interested in seeing La Zona for the first time, though. Chico & Rita looks interesting too.
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I can understand keeping the list short for the purposes of simplicity, but it is going to be such a hit or miss. A list of some of what I've seen in perhaps the vein of "hidden gem" or "art house" but which appears on no IMDb poll or IMDb list referenced in this thread thus far is as follows: ...but maybe half of the aforementioned are just plainly coming-of-age dramas, so even if they are also hidden gems, they could be part of a whole other poll or something about that specific category.
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The cronocrímenes has more than 50 thousand votes, is not a hidden gem. Voces inocentes has more than a 7.5 in IMDb.

The rest of the films have less than 1000 votes. They suggested to me that I put more well-known films, without the limitation of 1000 votes I could have included many more movies.
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Okay. That makes sense.
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Hi. I have changed the selection of movies and modified the introduction.



Hidden Gems of Spanish-Language Cinema

There are many great movies in which Spanish is the main language, the majority of them are not well known by the general public. This selection of movies, all from this century, has less than 20000 votes.


Which is your favourite film or, if you haven't seen them, which one seems more interesting to you?



What do you think about the new list?
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls047023593/edit?ref_=ttls_edt

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Hi, Yonyx.
When you publish a link to your list, please do it without "edit" sublink, otherwise the link will not work for other users.

Since you've decided to limit this poll to XXI century, it would be great to reflect this in the name of poll. This could prevent further misunderstandings if you or other person is going to suggest a similar poll but for XX century.
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Sorry, I didn' see your post before. I appreciate your suggestion, This is why I decided to change the name of the list, now it is: "Must See Spanish-Language Movies of this Century"

Although I think I can't change the name of the poll in the first post.
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I have not seen at least half of the list, but I will choose Truman 2015, and I'm sure Everybody Knows don't deserve to be best at all :)
Ps: XXY 2007 is duplicated as in #16 and #25. Consider removing one of them.
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Thanks, KiarashFa!
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I like your list. I have seen a few and would like to see others.

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Thank you very much for all your help, I had't noticed (it's fixed now).

How many people have to like the list to be able to do the poll?

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Oh, it's not really a question of likes. The comments here help, though. Other than that, it's just about which suggestions are prioritized.
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I suggest to include:
Tengo ganas de ti (2012)
El aura (2005)
Gigante (2009)
10.000 Km (2014)
7 días en La Habana (2012)
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I changed the title:


Must See Unknown Spanish-Language Movies of This Century
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The word "Unknown" is a bad idea for the current list of options. Do you really need such an "improvement"?
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Mmmm... maybe not. Then then I would leave the title like this:

Must See Spanish-Language Movies of This Century

With the word "Unknown" I wanted to reflect that the list was made up only of little-known films in spanish. That's why I have not added movies with more than 20,000 votes like: Y tu mamá también, El sueño de sus ojos, Mar adentro, Diarios de motocicleta, Nueve reinas, [Rec], Sin nombre, Che: el argentino, Verónica, Amores perros, Los cronocrímenes, Relatos salvajes, etc.

I have only added films that I have seen and I don't doubt its quality. More than 30 films I think there would be too many, and that's why I needed 2 restrictions: Unknown films and only this century.

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Hi, if I haven't said hello and welcomed you to the "poll board" yet, I'm sorry and welcome. : ) This is a good list of good films (some of which I haven't seen but you seem to have very good taste so the ones I haven't seen yet are now on my watchlist). I liked 'Even the Rain' a lot and loved 'XXY;' 'XXY' will get my vote.  

May I suggest a few small edits to the English part of the intro? ('below in bold) (the first is just a semi-colon instead of a comma)

There are many great movies in which Spanish is the main language;  the majority of them are not well known by the general public. Each of these movies, all from this century, has less than 20000 votes.

Which is your favourite film or, if you haven't seen them, which one seems most interesting to you?

Oh, I love that the intro is bilingual! : )
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Thank you very much for the welcome and the feedback, I really appreaciate it.

I write quite badly in English, so you help me a lot in that matter and right now I'm going to change what you have pointed out.

They are really great movies, you will like the majority, rubyfruit76 :)


https://www.imdb.com/list/ls047023593/
Must See Spanish-Language Movies of This Century

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I think you write very well in English! You are at least a hundred times better with English than I am with Spanish (and English is a strange language) and you write at least as well as most of my students and they're college students who, with the exception of four whose first language is not English, have been writing in English since they were about five; they're good students, too, so the comparison is quite a compliment. I just am so used to making edits to my own work and to my student's writing that it carries over to IMDb, lol. I fear that I get annoying, though, so let me know if I do. : )

I really am looking forward to seeing the films on this list that I haven't seen yet. 'XXY' and 'Even the Rain' are on my "ten best" lists for their years so I'm really glad to have others recommended; thank you!
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Men with Guns
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I have not seen it yet but I will soon, it seems promising. I don't include on the list because it is not from this century.

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Wow, thanks, I really thought I would never make it! xDD

My first poll :)
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Bravo!
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Tell me something when you see one of the list ;) For the moment "The realm" is winning the poll.

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Congratulations yonyx on your first live poll! As of 28-Mar-2019 8:29 PM Pacific your poll has 142 or more votes.

¡Felicidades yonyx en tu primera encuesta en vivo! A partir del 28 de marzo de 2019 20:29 Pacífico, su encuesta tiene 142 votos o más.

Must See Spanish-Language Movies of This Century
7554th Live Poll: https://www.imdb.com/poll/XsWuX93Vi38/
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This is the 3,391st Title poll. Such polls have a total of 8,081,798 votes for an average of 2,383 votes per poll.

Esta es la encuesta de 3,391st Title. Dichas encuestas tienen un total de 8,081,798 votos para un promedio de 2,383 votos por encuesta.
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Projected Date of 20 Million Votes	8-Jun-2020
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