Poll Suggestion: BLM: Black Lives Matter

  • 3
  • Idea
  • Updated 1 month ago
Archived and Closed

This conversation is no longer open for comments or replies and is no longer visible to community members. The community moderator provided the following reason for archiving: Potentially confusing use of IMDb logo in an image



In this sad state of affairs, let's have a look at some of the films with a happy ending for a black character.

Which of these films where a black character wins is your favorite?


❒ IMDb List: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls098491520/
❒ IMDb Poll: 
 
 
- by BONAFIDE BOSS
Photo of BONAFIDE BOSS ⭐️

BONAFIDE BOSS ⭐️

  • 2301 Posts
  • 4599 Reply Likes
  • #BlackLivesMatter

Posted 1 month ago

  • 3
Photo of Mark Glass

Mark Glass

  • 20 Posts
  • 32 Reply Likes
Blazing Saddles?
Photo of BONAFIDE BOSS ⭐️

BONAFIDE BOSS ⭐️

  • 2301 Posts
  • 4599 Reply Likes
Added to the list. Thanks.
Photo of Gitte Løyche

Gitte Løyche

  • 1386 Posts
  • 2918 Reply Likes
Any poll involving The Shawshank Redemption.......
Photo of BONAFIDE BOSS ⭐️

BONAFIDE BOSS ⭐️

  • 2301 Posts
  • 4599 Reply Likes
That's why it's at the very bottom, even though my poll is in a specific order, lol.
Photo of ACT_1

ACT_1

  • 4614 Posts
  • 6213 Reply Likes
Just a comment - not a List & Poll suggestion
  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests
- - -
 
How many white folks in US Law enforcement were killed by ____ folks ? ?
How many protests and riots ? ?
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_enforcement_in_the_United_States
.
Photo of Peter

Peter, Champion

  • 8105 Posts
  • 10484 Reply Likes
Wait, you wrote a statement and signed it with IMDb's logo?

How extraordinary.
Photo of Oswald

Oswald

  • 1146 Posts
  • 1988 Reply Likes
Agreed.

Neither IMDb nor the regulars on this board need to be caught up in this malarkey.
(Edited)
Photo of BONAFIDE BOSS ⭐️

BONAFIDE BOSS ⭐️

  • 2301 Posts
  • 4599 Reply Likes
And definitely not you.





Correct yourself before correcting others, Ed Jokes(XLIX)!
Photo of Nikolay Yeriomin (Mykola Yeromin)

Nikolay Yeriomin (Mykola Yeromin), Champion

  • 3670 Posts
  • 5087 Reply Likes
Peter, TBH, I just inherently assumed Boss here copied the message by IMDb itself, because I've seen messages like that from everyone. IMDb oddly had no statement on the issues lately and without that it's totally off to fabricate one, as far as I've re-checked. In my humble opinion it should've, but anyhow, it's not like black lives matter for a weekend and then tuesday.

They matter and should matter every single day. And that's what it's all about. 
(Edited)
Photo of Nikolay Yeriomin (Mykola Yeromin)

Nikolay Yeriomin (Mykola Yeromin), Champion

  • 3670 Posts
  • 5087 Reply Likes
Selina, not exactly a regular on this board, one might argue (several polls, but still, what makes a regular) but...

I live in Ukraine and I can't step aside when I see that. Nor anyone in the movie industry can. Every major and non-major studio issued a statement and there's a good reason behind that. You know what's malarky (genuinely thanks for enriching my vocabulary with this word, was not even aware of it somehow)? The fact that the less you research the easier it is to believe you're right. When no one is in this world. Something I will preach for the rest of my days - doubt yourself. Doubt your every thought, your every action, your every belief, otherwise they're worthless. Mainly because consensus will be impossible and consensus between us is why we're still there. We're our most right when we doubt that we are. We have the best consensus when we admit that we disagree, but still agree on something

Protesters and rioters are the same thing? Yeah, sure, why not. Riots started over a single murder when dozens die every day. Of course [blatant and very bleeeding, depressive sarcasm]. Then why on Earth I felt ashamed for being white when I saw countless videos of white looters being central marauder figures and why on Earth I saw just as many videos of protesters risking being beaten by police (and beaten, with little consideration) to hand them over those who really incite violence and looting? 

And, I'm sure you have an answer for that. Ed has one, too. Everyone here has some kind of answer to that, be it positive, negative, neutral, agreeing, disagreeing. Angry, approving, disapproving, whatever. But please, for one minute or less, regardless of what it is, doubt it. Give my chronicly fatigued, depressed and disheartened 2020 self at least that. Because if 2020 is anything it's us not doubting we have a future before that point. And look at us now. Look at this wreck of a planet, making yet another circle and tell me you're okay with our place on it. Because I'm not. I feel like we all, as a life form, freaking deserve the apocalypse right now even if all common sense in me tells me I'm just too sad too be as usually optimistic as I am. 

And you know, it hurts. A lot. More then usual. 

P.S. As you can tell, I'm not okay right now, but I'm kind of proud for this commentary and I have a feeling I will stay proud of it when I will be a tad more okay. My self-asteem in general is a few deep wells low, but I can give myself that.
(Edited)
Photo of Ed Jones(XLIX)

Ed Jones(XLIX)

  • 23155 Posts
  • 27468 Reply Likes
L@@K

You are bring up a politically motivated organization with an agenda and saying that IMDb recognizes said organization. You are legitimizing the organization with a quasi endorsement by IMDb as recognizing it. I Have been scolded by Peter for those misuses of the "We here at IMDb", SO I COME HERE telling you that it is wrong.

This poll is absolutely inflammatory in nature and will anger people on both sides of the issue.

This thread and the poll needs to be immediately ERASED!

I Know nothing about your country and it's politics, so I would NEVER step into a political quagmire that you have stepped into here.

Please respectfully. Request a removal of this thread, the poll, the list and it's title. It is a hotbed topic. It will only serve to anger the majority of those that see it.

Do you really want to be the cause of someone seeing this and taking some form of action based on your words?

I would not want that on my conscience!
Photo of BONAFIDE BOSS ⭐️

BONAFIDE BOSS ⭐️

  • 2301 Posts
  • 4599 Reply Likes

Photo of Ed Jones(XLIX)

Ed Jones(XLIX)

  • 23155 Posts
  • 27468 Reply Likes
Yep
Figures.
Your poll title "Black Lives Matter" Is the problem.
I is a reference to questionable organization.
Amazon steered clear of using that term in their statement.
Amazon owns IMDb
But they ARE separate.
IMDb IS about entertainment.
There is NO justification for this very poor poll suggestion.
NONE.
It is crass.
It objectifies.
Your movie selections are in bad taste.
You should immediately "Do The Right Thing"
Withdraw this. Your explanations for your so called justification for continuing this are falling flat. Using the tragic death of ANY individual as the basis for a poll in the manor that you have presented it is just plain wrong.
Please submit a request to archive this NOW!
(Edited)
Photo of Peter

Peter, Champion

  • 8105 Posts
  • 10484 Reply Likes
Amazon also posted the following image.

What I questioned was not so much the poll or the sentiment, but the attempt to make the text look like something it wasn't.

Photo of Peter

Peter, Champion

  • 8105 Posts
  • 10484 Reply Likes
New from IMDb

Photo of Ed Jones(XLIX)

Ed Jones(XLIX)

  • 23155 Posts
  • 27468 Reply Likes
And Peter............It Does not outright support "Black LIves Matter" (BLM), the title of this poll. It supports the African American Community, which it should.


But this poll title is still inflammatory!
The movies suggested and the premise is poorly executed.

'12 years a Slave' has a happy ending? C-mon. How blind can you all be.
The is no way that you can defend this pool, no matter how many statements are made.

This poll needs to be archived.
Photo of 15yearsIMDber aka ElMo

15yearsIMDber aka ElMo

  • 4416 Posts
  • 5205 Reply Likes
Speaking for myself, for what it's worth...

I refuse to be labeled as a member of any community... I know communities exist but the meaning has been distorted in the way they are used to reduce people with all their differences into "standards"... being white or black or gay or trans or muslim or jew etc. I refuse to be put into a section arbitrarily chosen by institutions that decide which parameter is more relevant than another...

Okay I admit that ethnicity can be relevant or religion or sexuality or political views but how about wealth? How about social status? How about attractiveness? How about personality? How about spoken languages? How about passions? How about fashion? How about all other factors that might make us closer to people even with a different ethnicity or sexuality... aren't we here all because we share the same passion for movies? Have our ethnic backgrounds got any bearing on that?

Why should we accept the notion that just because two persons belong to the same so-called community then they should follow the same patterns of behavior, they should share the same political views as in a Pavlovian mechanism etc.

Thinking in terms of communities is the best way to divide people and reign over them and you know why?Because you can't victimize one side without vilifying the other... but once you reason in terms of human beings, not only you see the real tragedy but you also make it immune to any political exploitation.
Photo of Ed Jones(XLIX)

Ed Jones(XLIX)

  • 23155 Posts
  • 27468 Reply Likes
Very eloquent!
I agree............
Photo of Nikolay Yeriomin (Mykola Yeromin)

Nikolay Yeriomin (Mykola Yeromin), Champion

  • 3670 Posts
  • 5087 Reply Likes
15yearsIMDber aka ElMo, it's a well-articulated position I can respect. 

I do, however, consider things like Black Lives Matter movement important, because we have foremost problems which are there for decades (sometimes centuries), without fixing which we're basically decorating a burning house with decorative plaques. And I mean, there is a lot of decorative elements to movements like that and community elements, but that's just how humanity thinks. Most of us cannot put abstract concepts in anything but tiny little boxes which are easier to understand and that's okay. That's just segmenting larger problems into smaller ones and fixing them one by one will get the thing done. 
Photo of 15yearsIMDber aka ElMo

15yearsIMDber aka ElMo

  • 4416 Posts
  • 5205 Reply Likes
Most of us cannot put abstract concepts in anything but tiny little boxes which are easier to understand and that's okay. That's just segmenting larger problems into smaller ones and fixing them one by one will get the thing done. 
And that's very dangerous, my friend.  And counter-productive too.

Let's say we decide to fix these little problems, "box" by "box".

1. First, who makes the segmentation?  
Should it be a collective consensus? Should facts guide the judgment? Should we trust politicians? the people? the media? common sense? And how about my free will? Suppose there's an issue that includes me (against my will) in a category whose interests apparently interfere with another one, should I accept (against my will) that I'm a de facto oppressor because I belong to a category that oppresses or oppressed another or should I accept (against my will again) that I'm a victim because etc. is it as simple as that?

2. Secondly, how do you know the box you can put a problem or an issue in?  Are these boxes separated, hermetically sealed or do they overlap? Is it a racism issue? or is it about alcoholism?  violence? poverty? entertainment media? You can't put big problems into little boxes just like your eyes can't focus on two points at the same time, you've got to look at the big picture... like Doc says "Marty, you've got to reason in four dimensions"  

3. Finally, who decides which box is the priority? You can't hierarchize the boxes, that would be racism if each box is about an ethnic issue, but it all goes all the same if you hierarchize their timely or emotional or personal values. At the end, we've got little boxes that we have to fix in the same time not to be accused of hypocrisy (like where were you or did you care when *that* happened?)

I know there are human groups, I'm not toying with concepts to sound smart, your argument made me think a lot and comforted me in my position that  this "box" mentality is problematic, because:

1. it divides the majority of people into three negative categories: victims / oppressors / hypocrites
2. it dumbs down the representation of reality through exaggeration and/or over-simplification
3. it doesn't solve the big problem but generates dozens of collateral ones.
(Edited)
Photo of Peter

Peter, Champion

  • 8105 Posts
  • 10484 Reply Likes
12 Angry Men is on the list, but I'm not sure anyone in the movie is black. The accused teenager is said to be Puerto Rican.
Photo of cinephile

cinephile

  • 1214 Posts
  • 1556 Reply Likes
He is not only described, we see him at the beginning:
Photo of BONAFIDE BOSS ⭐️

BONAFIDE BOSS ⭐️

  • 2301 Posts
  • 4599 Reply Likes
Removed from the list.
Photo of Ed Jones(XLIX)

Ed Jones(XLIX)

  • 23155 Posts
  • 27468 Reply Likes
I have seen no effort to remove this.,.
So I shall post a daily log of what some backers of black lives matter are up to!
Todays episode of of Tucker Carlson Tonight (2016) (TV Series) Episode dated 4 June 2020 there was a segment that depicted an individual ( A Black Lives Matter supporter) harassing 3 women attempting to clean up the defacing (Spray painted Graffiti) of a building in Washington D.C. Those three woman were accused of being racists because they dared to clean up their city.

I'm sorry but the 5 people that have commented here on this are not informed enough to denounce this poll as a very bad idea.

Another note: The "Black Lives Matter Foundation" backs the abolition of funding by way of appropriations by all governmental forms. Yes. No taxes collected by any entity shall go to any law enforcement!! Oh did I mention that they want to empty all jails too! Yes. Fact!

Now as to your poll title............A very bad idea! Again. It references an organization that is for anarchy at it's core foundation.

Please request a closure of this poll.


Will update the news on BLM every day until you do so please.

Thanks

This conversation is no longer open for comments or replies.