Live Poll: Comedy Types

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Never really thought about it as to which type I personally consider as my favorite just as long it is dumb. There has to be some food for the mind in it.
But wouldn’t “Arsenic and Old Lace” fit better as Black Comedy than Plup Fiction”? “Bringing Up Baby” is usually defined as the best in screwball comedy. I can think of more modern ones as presentative of that type.

I think a short definition of each type would help. Why? I was thinking of some of the types you could have missed, like sex comedies or role reversals, when I realize that “Comedy of manners” would cover role reversals. But how many people know what that term means. I personally got into trouble with African Americans who had thought the term “Black Comedy” refers to comedy by African American people, and they didn’t know that term actually refers to comedy involving death, crime, sin and such.
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What kind of comedy is Pulp Fiction?
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I don’t think of “Pulp Ficton” as a comedy at all. I think it was meant to be exactly what the title meant it to be: a collection of lurid detective and crime stories. They were just all interconnected crime stories in the film. And the story of the two bumbling hit men was used as comic relief to offset the the rest of the tension of the rest of the stories. I mean after the story with the hit men, do you see anything funny in the rest of the stories? No. In fact, John Travolta’s performance as Vincent Vega was basically him reprising his ”Welcome Back, Kotter” role of Vinnie Barbarino (aka Vinnie Barbarino grew up to become the hit man Vincent Vega - the airhead dumbness Of the character are that similar).
In fact, I am reminded of another pair of hit men who cracked jokes while doing there job. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066995/...
Mr. Kidd and Mr. Wint from Diamonds Are Forever (1971). That movie is not a comedy but they were cracking jokes much darker than Vincent Vega and Jules Winnfield were. Hmmm face off between the two? Nah too obvious. Someone probably already thought of it and did it by now. But maybe not?
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I removed it :)
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Actually Tarantino has gone on record numerous times that he intended Pulp Fiction to be comedy, to the point that he suggested it should be under that section in the video store. 
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I'd be inclined to agree with Tarantino, but the counterpoint, with no offense to him meant, is that he is a very sick man. Haha. Some of the stuff he might find hilarious, only maybe one tenth of the humanity overall would also find to be hilarious, a large enough portion that I wouldn't feel comfortable psychoanalyzing "them" (perhaps myself included), yet here I am. There is no need to fix the "sickness". It may not be a genuine a defect. His work is suitable for broad grow-up audiences, but only a portion of that audience would appreciate the work in the same or a similar way that he does. Most of the subject material of Pulp Fiction is downright horrifying, if looked at outside of, say, a prism of desensitization. We are supposed to do the opposite of suspending disbelief in these cases, or at least remember and appreciate the fact "it's just a movie" ("and thank goodness for that"), for the sake of remaining sane. Regardless, comic violence is a legitimate part of aestheticization of violence, and thereby it cannot be much worse than the encompassing concept, for those who are not too pleased about violence (whether reenactment or fantastical) in media in general.
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How about “Comic Relief”? My description of it. “Comedy or wisecrack or aside inserted into a non comedy play or movie in order to temporarily relieve or lessen the tension of the story and give the audience a short break.”

Raiders of the Lost Ark - where a tired Indie just shoots this guy instead of fighting him. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082971/...
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I like that...
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"How about “Comic Relief”? My description of it. “Comedy or wisecrack or aside inserted into a non comedy play or movie in order to temporarily relieve or lessen the tension of the story and give the audience a short break.” "

The trope was also used in theatrical plays, with comical scenes in tragic plays. For example in  "Hamlet" (c. 1599) by William Shakespeare, a scene where Claudius plots to murder his nephew and Ophelia's suicide is announced, is followed by one where two gravediggers are cracking jokes and playing riddles while working. Though the jokes themselves are gallows humor:

Gravedigger:

*What is he that builds stronger than either the mason, the shipwright, or the carpenter?

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The gallows-maker, for that frame outlives a thousand tenants.

And later in the scene:

Gravedigger

*And when you are asked this question next, say “A grave-maker.” The houses that he makes last till doomsday.