Poll Suggestion: Foreign Films Nominated for Best Picture

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These foreign films were nominated for the Academy Awards for 'Best Motion Picture of the Year'. Which film is your favorite?

My list: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls093915847/
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'Crouching Tiger,Hidden Dragon'! - It's a visually stunning movie.
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FYC, Poll Suggestion: Foreign Films Nominated for Best Picture

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I made this nearly identical poll suggestion PS: Oscar Best Picture Non-Anglo Produced Nominees? a year ago and updated it three days ago.

As of 2020, 98.2% of all Oscar Best Picture nominees are Anglo-based productions or co-productions. They are represented by five hundred fifty-six of the total five hundred sixty-six Oscar Best Picture nominees. This poll is dedicated to the other 1.8% of non-Anglo based productions that bucked the odds to secure a Oscar Best Picture nomination and the one that won.

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Even though Roma (2018) was included in the Foreign Language Film category, ITS NOT REALLY A FOREIGN FILM.

I think its inclusion is questionable here, as its the two main production companies and its distributor are US based, including Esperanto Filmoj  an American film and television production company based in Sherman Oaks, California owned by film director Alfonso Cuarón.The Celis borthers production company provided on-site logistical support and Nicolás Celis serving as the third producer on the production allowed for its Mexican submission to the Best Foreign Language Film of the Year category, by a technicality in the rules. The co-production is despite the topic and language is a primarily an American production, much like this year's The Farewell (2019) or Letters from Iwo Jima (2006).

  • Esperanto Filmoj Headquarters  Sherman Oaks, California, United States
  • Participant, Headquarters Los Angeles, California, United States
  • Pimienta Films, Headquarters Mexico City, Mexico
  • Netflix Headquarters Scotts Valley, California, United States
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Your question asks about foreign films, but your answer pool is about foreign language films and while their is some overlap, they are not the same thing.

Also, your question raises some issues "These foreign films were nominated for the Academy Awards for 'Best Motion Picture of the Year'. Which film is your favorite?"

Anglo countries films from Europe (British Isles: U.K., Ireland, Scotland, etc.), Americas (Canada, Bahamas, Barbados. Belize, Jamaica, Trinidad and Tobago, etc), Australasia (Australia, New Zealand) and Africa (South Africa, etc) are technically foreign films.  As asked, films from Australia, New Zealand, British Isles: U.K., Ireland, Scotland, and Canada should be in your answer pool as they are foreign films from the Oscars' perspective. As asked, New Zealand co-produced foreign film and IMDb Top 250 ranked #15  The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002) seems noticeably absent from the answers of favorite foreign films.

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Shouldn't Tess and other films like it be included in your answer pool?

Plus, French co-production Tess 1979 was a nominee for the Golden Globes for Best Foreign Film France, but not in the Oscar's Foreign Language Film category due to a rule difference. It was ruled ineligible, despite it being a primarily France-based production and was nominated in the main Best Picture category, not unlike The Artist (2011).


Tess 1979 | Movie 7.3 (13,136)
France | U.K.: Renn Productions/Timothy Burrill Productions/Société Française de Production (SFP)

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What is a
Foreign Film?

International Feature Films vs. Foreign Language Films vs. Films Not in the English Language vs. Films filmed in a Foreign Country

Despite, now being known as the International Feature Film category. The Oscars category name change from Best Foreign Language Film. highlights some of the complexities of this category. The rules for the Academy Award for Best International Feature Film differ from both the BAFTA Award for Best Film Not in the English Language and the Golden Globe Award for Best Foreign Language Film.
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What qualifies a film to be "foreign" or is the most determining factor?

Foreign Language Films vs. Films Not in the English Language vs. Films filmed in a Foreign Country vs. Films financed by a company in a Foreign Country vs. Films produced by a company in a Foreign Country vs. Films directed/casted/crewed by Foreign Nationals vs. Foreign-American co-productions (can a film be domestic and foreign or is it one or other?)

Roma (2018) was also fully financed by US-based Participant Media. "The only other person to ever see a complete screenplay was David Linde, CEO at Participant Media, who had come on board to fully finance the film." from Why Alfonso Cuaron teamed up with Netflix on 'ROMA .

Mixtec-language Roma (2018) on the surface seems be a lot like Maya-language Apocalypto (2006), which is widely considered a primarily American film. It was a nominee for the BAFTA Film Award Best Film not in the English Language and was a nominee for Golden Globe Best Foreign Language Film, but declared ineligible for the Academy Award Best Foreign Language Film of the Year due to being American co-production.

If I physically take this poll from a computer based in country, where English is an "official" language in Canada (North America), the Falklans (South America), South Pole (Antarica), Australia (Oceana), Ireland (Europe), Nigeria (Africa) or India (Asia) would my answer pool change, since what is considered foreign does?

I would even question using the Oscars definition of foreign or international, as it seems flawed too. Lionheart (2018) was deemed ineligible to compete for this year's  Academy Award for Best International Feature Film. Despite, the country of origin being Nigeria, its using two native tribal languages (Hausa | Ibo), as well as, English and checking all the other boxes described above, it was deemed not to be foreign enough by the Academy. The Academy Yanks Nigeria’s Oscar Submission, and Proves That Hollywood Still Can’t Take African Cinema Seriously
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You are right. I saw a list on wiki, also included Babel and a few others. I removed this one because it had USA with the country on IMDb. But I didn’t think this through. Because Roma also have USA as country. And I didn’t know you already made a list. It seems that you thought about this very well. Tess was not on the list at wiki, so this list is inaccurate.
I will remove this thread and my list in one or two days.
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It seems like all the award shows seem to have had trouble pinning down what qualifies as "foreign" too, each coming up with their own imperfect take. So, you are not alone. It is a bit of a hot button topic for me. I tried to come with a list that fit regardless of how foreign is defined, but in the end focused on the Anglo approach as the best way to remove the more controversial issues.
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You can look at the “country of origin” at IMDb. Maybe that’s a good to select the movies. Or maybe, only include the movies with both nominees, best picture and foreign. But that can be unfair for some of the other movies. I don’t know. It’s difficult indeed.
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