...Whom is your all-time favorite?
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paul newman 'cool hand luke'...
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Great pick Rocky, mine as well - and one of the most fascinating characters of all-time IMHO...
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He's one of the coolest characters ever created in the cinema, IMO! Also because of the writing, but mostly because of the undeniable charisma of Paul Newman!
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A few classics come to mind.
"Birdman of Alcatraz" (1962), Robert Franklin Stroud (Burt Lancaster), http://www.imdb.com/character/ch02191... The movie romanizes him but in real life, this very real convict was a very dangerous killer who was exactly where he belonged.
Vince Everett (Elvis Presley) and Hunk Houghton (Mickey Shaughnessy) in "Jailhouse Rock" (1957) http://www.imdb.com/character/ch00471... and http://www.imdb.com/character/ch00878... (sorry, no picture on the second one.)
"I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang" (1932) James Allen http://www.imdb.com/character/ch00905... but in the end of the film, you, the audience, will figure out his story is a lie and that he actually committed the crime he was convicted of.
Two James Cagney rolls: "Angels with Dirty Faces" (1938) Rocky Sullivan but he is only convicted the last part of the movie. But the scene where he is going to be executed is classic Cagney at his best. Did he really turn 'Yellow' or did he acted 'yellow' so that the kids who idolized him won't fallow in his footsteps? http://www.imdb.com/character/ch00184... .
"Each Dawn I Die" (1939) where Cagney plays Frank Ross, a crusading investigative reporter innocently framed for a crime when he starts investigating corruption of a D.A. running for governor. http://www.imdb.com/character/ch00475... And 'Hood' Stacey (George Raft) from the same film. http://www.imdb.com/character/ch00475...
"Birdman of Alcatraz" (1962), Robert Franklin Stroud (Burt Lancaster), http://www.imdb.com/character/ch02191... The movie romanizes him but in real life, this very real convict was a very dangerous killer who was exactly where he belonged.
Vince Everett (Elvis Presley) and Hunk Houghton (Mickey Shaughnessy) in "Jailhouse Rock" (1957) http://www.imdb.com/character/ch00471... and http://www.imdb.com/character/ch00878... (sorry, no picture on the second one.)
"I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang" (1932) James Allen http://www.imdb.com/character/ch00905... but in the end of the film, you, the audience, will figure out his story is a lie and that he actually committed the crime he was convicted of.
Two James Cagney rolls: "Angels with Dirty Faces" (1938) Rocky Sullivan but he is only convicted the last part of the movie. But the scene where he is going to be executed is classic Cagney at his best. Did he really turn 'Yellow' or did he acted 'yellow' so that the kids who idolized him won't fallow in his footsteps? http://www.imdb.com/character/ch00184... .
"Each Dawn I Die" (1939) where Cagney plays Frank Ross, a crusading investigative reporter innocently framed for a crime when he starts investigating corruption of a D.A. running for governor. http://www.imdb.com/character/ch00475... And 'Hood' Stacey (George Raft) from the same film. http://www.imdb.com/character/ch00475...
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i thought of cagney in 'dirty faces' as well...one of my all time favorites...and i thought exactly as you did...it's only the end of the film, but that one scene alone when he is walking towards his execution...that was the first thing i thought of when i read this question...powerful...
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And controversial too. Did he turn or did he pretend to turn 'Yellow'?
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i think he pretended...for the sake of the kids...
at least that is what i'd like to think....
at least that is what i'd like to think....
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My too. I think what convinced him was that as he was walking to his exocution, the other death row inmates were imitating his tough guy speach.
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FYC (starting with my faves at the top):
Jack Foley
Oscar Wilde
Mr. Blonde/Vic Vega
Gerry Conlon
Selma Jezkova
Nelson Mandela
Mickey and Mallory Knox
M. Gustave
Mud
Danny Ocean
Snake Plissken
Bronson
Brooks Hatlen
Marquis de Sade
Richard B. Riddick
Alex DeLarge
Jean Valjean
Edmund Dantes
Henri 'Papillon' Charriere
Eric Love
'Joliet' Jake Blues
I'm guessing you're not counting prisoner of war camps as prisons?
Jack Foley
Oscar Wilde
Mr. Blonde/Vic Vega
Gerry Conlon
Selma Jezkova
Nelson Mandela
Mickey and Mallory Knox
M. Gustave
Mud
Danny Ocean
Snake Plissken
Bronson
Brooks Hatlen
Marquis de Sade
Richard B. Riddick
Alex DeLarge
Jean Valjean
Edmund Dantes
Henri 'Papillon' Charriere
Eric Love
'Joliet' Jake Blues
I'm guessing you're not counting prisoner of war camps as prisons?
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Definitely Jean Valjean (Les Misables), Edmund Dantes (The Count of Monte Cristo), and Henri 'Papillon' Charriere (Papillon). (My way of saying "See, I know who these guys are!")
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Does that mean you need me to tell you what films they are from?
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My way of joking. I got bored. But definitely second those. Plus Mandela
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But I think he is going for the fictional ones. That is why I think the birdman and James Allen that I had suggested will not make the list because they were real people.
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jen jen jen...i am so glad you added Henri 'Papillon' Charriere...
what a brilliant brilliant film and just the fact that you suggested him is perfect...
what a brilliant brilliant film and just the fact that you suggested him is perfect...
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Dgrang, you're right and I should have put this in this list's description (perhaps I will...) @Jen, which of your suggestions are actually non-fictional? I will try to stay away from these ones... Bronson and Mandela are two that instantly come to mind. What about the others?
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@Jen can you respond to my comment above^? I'd appreciate if you could inform me of whom from your options are non-fictional? I won't include them.
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I believe you have to remove two from your list, Hart and Kelly. Remember, "Chicago" is based on two real murder trails where only the names were changed. In that show, the women were jailed awaiting trial. They were not convicted. Thus, they were not convicts. You need to be conviction from a trial in order to be a convict.
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Thanks for the heads up grang - I have removed both "Chicago" females as well as Henri Papillion with respect to your other comment. Are there any more characters that you believe are non-fictional?
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Other than the Marquis De Sade, Oscar Wilde (the writer) and the ones you saw and I spotted, no. However, I would recommend putting in a lot of Jen's in. I think "Joliet" Jake Blues might be a fun one to put in.
Oops, I spoke too soon. Mud is real too. His name is Dr. Samuel Mudd, the man who treated Lincoln's assassin, John Wilkes Booth wound..
I got some that you will probably will not take because people will not know them.
- Lt. Philip Nolan from "The Man Without a Country" (1973) There has been a few old film versions of that one.
- oh wait I got a good one - Phillippe "The Man In The Iron Mask" but there is one page for him that does include DeCaprio's version. http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0499760/
I'm creating a new page for DeCaprio's portrayal and hopefully to include the others from that page too.
- Prince Juddah Ben Hur from "Ben Hur"
Oops, I spoke too soon. Mud is real too. His name is Dr. Samuel Mudd, the man who treated Lincoln's assassin, John Wilkes Booth wound..
I got some that you will probably will not take because people will not know them.
- Lt. Philip Nolan from "The Man Without a Country" (1973) There has been a few old film versions of that one.
- oh wait I got a good one - Phillippe "The Man In The Iron Mask" but there is one page for him that does include DeCaprio's version. http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0499760/
I'm creating a new page for DeCaprio's portrayal and hopefully to include the others from that page too.
- Prince Juddah Ben Hur from "Ben Hur"
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This Mud is not Dr. Mudd. He is a convict hiding out in a swamp played by Matthew McConaughey.
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Mr Blonde was an ex-convict, like Cady. You sure about them?
Also I thought "Dead Man Walking" was based on a true story.
Also I thought "Dead Man Walking" was based on a true story.
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Yes and no. She was real but Matthew Poncelet wasn't exactly. He was a composite of several prisoners that she had counciled. Check here - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112818/f...
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"We're No Angels" (1955) - Joesph (Humphrey Bogart), Albert (Aldo Ray), and Jules (Peter Ustinov)
"There was a crooked man" (1970) - Paris Pitman, Jr. (Kirk Douglas), The Missouri Kid (Burgess Meredith)
"The defiant ones" - John 'Joker' Jackson (Tony Curtis), and Noah Cullen (Sidney Poitier).
are films you can check out for more movie convicts.
"There was a crooked man" (1970) - Paris Pitman, Jr. (Kirk Douglas), The Missouri Kid (Burgess Meredith)
"The defiant ones" - John 'Joker' Jackson (Tony Curtis), and Noah Cullen (Sidney Poitier).
are films you can check out for more movie convicts.
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Grang,
I'll look at adding some of these guys, thanks for the helpful input! You've been extremely helpful on this PS in particular, so thank you!
I'll look at adding some of these guys, thanks for the helpful input! You've been extremely helpful on this PS in particular, so thank you!
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You are welcome . I just thought of macheal caine's in the original "The Italian job". I think his name was Charlie Croker and of course John Bridger- but I prefer Donald Sutherland's version of him in the remake of TIJ than Noel Coward's in the original.
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FYC-
Malik El Djebena from 'A Prophet'
I would have suggested Bobby Sands from the 'Hunger', but real-life criminals are excluded.
From your list, Derek Vinyard. Norton is such a terrific actor!
Malik El Djebena from 'A Prophet'
I would have suggested Bobby Sands from the 'Hunger', but real-life criminals are excluded.
From your list, Derek Vinyard. Norton is such a terrific actor!
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Thanks Sky, I'll consider the two of them shortly.
Yeah, Vinyard is a fascinating character!
Yeah, Vinyard is a fascinating character!
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Riddick in "Pitch Black" . If I remember the movie right, he is ether an ex-convict, or a convicted prisoner in transit to another prison.
For fun, include these two Capt Kirk and McCoy, since, in "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country" (1991), they were framed, tried, and convicted for the assignation of the Klingon High Chancellor, Gorgon, and sent to the Klingon prison planet, Rura Penthe.
Woody Allen's Virgil Starkwell in "Take The Money And Run" (1969). Hey, I might do a poll on his work before he won that Oscar for "Annie Hall" Some of his funniest works as an actor and or writer are pre-Oscar.
Another comedy: "Stir Crazy" (1980) (Gene Wilder) and Harry Monroe (Richard Pryor).
"Tough Guys". Another idea for a poll, the best or funniest of the Wilder/Pryor movies.
I doubt you will use this one, "Tough Guys" (1986), Harry Doyle (Burt Lancaster) and Archie Long (Kirk Douglas) are ex-convicts.
For fun, include these two Capt Kirk and McCoy, since, in "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country" (1991), they were framed, tried, and convicted for the assignation of the Klingon High Chancellor, Gorgon, and sent to the Klingon prison planet, Rura Penthe.
Woody Allen's Virgil Starkwell in "Take The Money And Run" (1969). Hey, I might do a poll on his work before he won that Oscar for "Annie Hall" Some of his funniest works as an actor and or writer are pre-Oscar.
Another comedy: "Stir Crazy" (1980) (Gene Wilder) and Harry Monroe (Richard Pryor).
"Tough Guys". Another idea for a poll, the best or funniest of the Wilder/Pryor movies.
I doubt you will use this one, "Tough Guys" (1986), Harry Doyle (Burt Lancaster) and Archie Long (Kirk Douglas) are ex-convicts.
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Here is another one that people forget that he is a convict at a prison work farm before he decides to pretend he is crazy in order to get out of his prison sentence, and ends up getting sent to an insane asylum which was a worst prison than where he was at: R.P. McMurphy (Jack Nicholson) in "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" (1975). Why do people forget that one? Because they think about the mental patents more than they remember that McMurphy isn't crazy but a man trying to con his way out of prison.
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What? This hasn't gone live yet?
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UM,
Thanks for these. I'm trying to exclude real life convicts, I believe Bronson is a real life guy, no? I can add the other, assuming he's a fictional character.
Thanks for these. I'm trying to exclude real life convicts, I believe Bronson is a real life guy, no? I can add the other, assuming he's a fictional character.
Kyle Perez
Thanks for your input. Mark J. Sheridan from U.S. Marshals (1998) has now been added to the lot!