Poll Suggestion: Schizophrenia

  • 2
  • Idea
  • Updated 9 months ago
  • (Edited)
Archived and Closed

This conversation is no longer open for comments or replies and is no longer visible to community members. The community moderator provided the following reason for archiving: Requested by author.

According to the dictionary, schizophrenia can be define as:


  • "a serious mental illness in which someone cannot understand what is real and what is imaginary."
Some movies portrayed this serious mental disorder for a certain way we know the reality about this disease and to understand a bit what many people with this disease suffer. It's not easy to play a character schizophrenic, it requires a lot from actors to make the character credible.

Which of these impressive performances did you feel more empathy?

List: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls022732721/
Photo of SeventhAr7

SeventhAr7

  • 905 Posts
  • 1404 Reply Likes

Posted 1 year ago

  • 2
Photo of dgranger

dgranger

  • 2351 Posts
  • 2005 Reply Likes
Sally Fields in “Sybil” a true story of a woman with 14 personalities.
“The Three Faces Of Eve” sets the benchmark for this genre.
Photo of Joanne Herman

Joanne Herman

  • 4 Posts
  • 8 Reply Likes
a no not split persnalty wtf are u on I'm sick of being fuck with and broke super broke so I'm fighting back undersand
Photo of තරිඳු ධනංජය/Thorin

තරිඳු ධනංජය/Thorin

  • 597 Posts
  • 864 Reply Likes
Hi @Joanne. So, what's up? :/
Photo of SeventhAr7

SeventhAr7

  • 905 Posts
  • 1404 Reply Likes
...and i don't why?

I'm not mocking or discriminate anyone with this mental illness.
I don't understand why people are angry or affected by it. 
Photo of Ed Jones (XLIX)

Ed Jones (XLIX)

  • 16434 Posts
  • 18822 Reply Likes
An even Better Selection

Photo of Nikolay Yeriomin (Mykola Yeromin)

Nikolay Yeriomin (Mykola Yeromin), Champion

  • 2977 Posts
  • 3875 Reply Likes
I would argue some of the picks, because while Bateman's mindset suggests schizophrenia, it's hard to say what is the case there, while The Narrator in Fight Club (1999) is definitely not schizophrenic: he has a dissociative personality disorder and, as Wikipedia states it rather clearly: "Schizophrenia does not imply a "split personality" or "dissociative identity disorder" – conditions with which it is often confused in public perception". Apart from what is associated with his second personality covering its tracks Narrator seemingly has little to no hallucinations and generally thinks rather clearly. I'd rather argue that Donnie Darko is schizophrenic as well (because he likely is only from the point of view of most people), but he as diagnosed in the movie, so that counts. 

It should be noted that schizophrenia is one of the fewer mental illnesses which actually has a number of physical neurological symptoms. 
Photo of SeventhAr7

SeventhAr7

  • 905 Posts
  • 1404 Reply Likes
You made good points. I kind understand the points that you made to unavailable the presence of this mental ilness on him.
Since there's difficult to determine if he is or not schizophrenic and he is more likely to have those mental ilnesses that you said,
I will deleted him from the list.  

Thanks for your explanation ;)
Photo of groovyvic

groovyvic

  • 487 Posts
  • 726 Reply Likes
ur welcome ;)
Photo of Joanne Herman

Joanne Herman

  • 4 Posts
  • 8 Reply Likes
and mentle ilness lol wow u dum nieve fucking retards u don't understand who i am do u Iim a good person and mently stronger and speritly stronger then any one of u dum fucks I'm glad u guys think this is a game I'll show u a game and every name talking shit I'm taking your shit
Photo of groovyvic

groovyvic

  • 487 Posts
  • 726 Reply Likes
Who hurt you?
Photo of Jeorj Euler

Jeorj Euler

  • 7265 Posts
  • 9473 Reply Likes
We all have our demons. Some of us are demons.
Photo of Breumaster

Breumaster

  • 2722 Posts
  • 3931 Reply Likes
I like that idea. My vote would be a tie between Nina sayers and John Nash. Hard to vote. ;)
Photo of SeventhAr7

SeventhAr7

  • 905 Posts
  • 1404 Reply Likes
So, "Black Swan" is the only movie that our opinions converge.
Photo of ElMo

ElMo

  • 3714 Posts
  • 4047 Reply Likes
There are always areas of agreement within disagreement :)
Photo of SeventhAr7

SeventhAr7

  • 905 Posts
  • 1404 Reply Likes
I agree ;)
Photo of ElMo

ElMo

  • 3714 Posts
  • 4047 Reply Likes
Let's agree to agree then :)
Photo of SeventhAr7

SeventhAr7

  • 905 Posts
  • 1404 Reply Likes
Alright ;)
Photo of Ibrahim Akhtar

Ibrahim Akhtar

  • 688 Posts
  • 637 Reply Likes
My Vote: Mal Cobb.
Photo of Silitonga

Silitonga

  • 632 Posts
  • 765 Reply Likes
Nash for me
Photo of SeventhAr7

SeventhAr7

  • 905 Posts
  • 1404 Reply Likes
C'mon... :)
Let's pick
Photo of තරිඳු ධනංජය/Thorin

තරිඳු ධනංජය/Thorin

  • 597 Posts
  • 864 Reply Likes
I can't make a choice. :(
Photo of Breumaster

Breumaster

  • 2567 Posts
  • 3708 Reply Likes
Ok, but could you explain, what "try kkk" means to the question of Mr. Torin at the reply we ommented to? Should that mean he shouldn't worry about and take it easy and laugh about it? Sorry, I'm not so into english that I could have understood this.
Photo of Breumaster

Breumaster

  • 2567 Posts
  • 3708 Reply Likes
Ok, but could you explain, what "try kkk" means to the question of Mr. Torin at the reply we ommented to? Should that mean he shouldn't worry about and take it easy and laugh about it? Sorry, I'm not so into english that I could have understood this.
Photo of SeventhAr7

SeventhAr7

  • 905 Posts
  • 1404 Reply Likes
No, it doesn't mean that he needs to laugh.
The "giggling" it's a like "I had the same dilema" because on this list there are good performances which makes hard to pick.
You know, when there are so many thing that you like and someone say that you need to pick just one.

I'm English, which makes difficult to explain what I tried to say. Sometimes I don't find the English word to describe what I was trying to say because in every cultures there are certain expressions.
Photo of Breumaster

Breumaster

  • 2567 Posts
  • 3708 Reply Likes
That explanation is good enough for me. ;) Maybe the best would have been 'same deal'? But don't judge me by this, I'm no person of english mother language. I would have written 'Same deal.' But that maybe be a wrong use of the words, I know.
(Edited)
Photo of SeventhAr7

SeventhAr7

  • 905 Posts
  • 1404 Reply Likes
Sometimes i fail on choose the right phrase but i will not judge you, don't worry ;)
Photo of lapoubelle

lapoubelle

  • 93 Posts
  • 122 Reply Likes
A Beautiful Mind
Photo of SeventhAr7

SeventhAr7

  • 905 Posts
  • 1404 Reply Likes

Photo of Ed Jones (XLIX)

Ed Jones (XLIX)

  • 16434 Posts
  • 18822 Reply Likes
1 of 12
John Nash
Titles:
A Beautiful Mind


Photo of SeventhAr7

SeventhAr7

  • 905 Posts
  • 1404 Reply Likes
I was already forgetting this poll. Added more 8 options !!

Photo of MAthePA

MAthePA

  • 2056 Posts
  • 3486 Reply Likes
This poll and similar, if any exists, really deserve to be forgot at last. 

You step in the field where incorrect information or a cup of wrong subjective measure may provoke a mentally unstable person or persons to the point of no return.

If the existence of DSM-IV, DSM-IV-TR and DSM-5 is out of your knowledge, it is preferable not to touch the questions concerning psychiatry. If you don't know the diffference between DSM-IV and DSM-5 in the field of schizophrenia, it is better to avoid this term.

There are some general terms that are mostly enough to express the theme on public: mentally unstable, mentally disordered, mentally ill people. In every-day use, as in this poll, we may see all the Phobias and Anxiety disorders, Depressive disorders, Dissociative disorders, sometimes Autism spectrum conditions - all of them called "Schizophrenia" for wrong. "Schizophrenia" is a diagnosis, so let it be characterized and announced by professionals in the field, not to drown disorienting the people who experiences lighter disorders.

Someone may argue we talk only about movies here. Yes, and let it be so and stay in the frame of cinematography. If I see "schizophrenia" or other psychiatric or medical term in the product itself (official posters, trailers, titles, dialogues, pictures filmed), no problem to appeal this in lists, polls, discussions in the same way as the producers did. At least, it counts for them to be honest (or not) to invite professional consultants when working out the concept of production.

Patricia R. Owen, Ph.D. recommends some realistic movies in the field: The Soloist, Canvas, Oil on Water, Some VoicesAngel Baby, Revolution #9. Moreover, she as pro defines the Clean, Shaven as the most comprehensive study of schizophrenia in movies, but can not recommend it for wide audience.

Someone may like an entertainment itself more than any professional opinion... OK, let's examine the above poll taking no Patricia R. into account. The Fisher King is Fantasy, while Inception and Donnie Darko are Sci-Fi, all concerning mental but not disorders. What a ?.. It seems the movies are just not seen or not understood to be in this poll. Further - "better". Take Shelter and Black Swan - if they show schizophrenia, the great half of humankind are schizophrenics.
(Edited)
Photo of SeventhAr7

SeventhAr7

  • 905 Posts
  • 1404 Reply Likes
Chill...
The main goal of this poll is to put movies that are trying or assuming dealing with this mental illness.
No one here is a psychiatrist, directors or producers aren't psychiatrist, actors aren't with schizophrenia...

So in your words, no one can do this from the start? This is not a poll about who's favorite movie dealing with this. QUESTIONING this is not ethical.
This is about who's performance from the actors make you feel more intrigued to know more about this mental illness. If you create empathy for the performance you are more willing to search to know more about and at certain aspect analyze what you searched with the performance himself.

This is the point of this poll. These movies are assuming dealing with this mental illness... It wasn't a reflection of my own ideas.

If everything we made upset anyone, we wouldn't do anything. If you treat something with respect and awareness what are the problem??

Tabus are to be broken... Movies dealing with Racism, LGBT?? In your case can't be talk?? If I am white I can't made or talk about for example a poll dealing with the acquisition of rights from black people on the last century?? If I am hetero I can't made a poll about "LGBT movies" because I'm not on that oriental sexuality??
Photo of Jeorj Euler

Jeorj Euler

  • 7240 Posts
  • 9428 Reply Likes
The point is that there is zero evidence that some of the characters on the list have been diagnosed or qualify to be diagnosed as suffering from schizophrenia. I would be a lot more respectful to avoid using the word "schizophrenia" if you want to retain certain items on the list.
Photo of SeventhAr7

SeventhAr7

  • 905 Posts
  • 1404 Reply Likes
I suppose that this will not go live. It seems that it bothers a lot of people.
(Edited)
Photo of Jeorj Euler

Jeorj Euler

  • 7240 Posts
  • 9428 Reply Likes
Certainly MAthePA made a compelling argument about what should or should not belong.

This conversation is no longer open for comments or replies.