Poll Suggestion: The Ultimate Cinematic Sequence

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Watching movies often is a matter of personal taste. But sometimes a real intense sequence in a movie has taken the breath of a wide audience. The IMDb Poll Board users are asked to find out what would have been the ultimate Sequence in a close to perfect - or simply perfect - movie.

So the rules are:
The movie should be rated by more than 50.000 (debateable) users.
The rating should be 8.0/10 or higher. (exact rating border debateable)
The sequence should be a very intense visualized sequence of image, sound and storytelling.
One user can only pick one sequence to suggest.
The user will be mentioned in the option ("Suggested by ...")
If someone has chosen exactly the option you would have suggested, agree and join the "Suggested by ..."-Line. But just on one option. Not two or more agrees.
The sequence should be exemplary for best cinematic entertainment in anyway.

The list is here:
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls045846621/
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I want to add one rule:
No second or third option for one movie.
Each movie only one option in the list !
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Please don't forget to leave an IMDb-image-link for a good exemplary Image of the sequence and just a short line for the description like in the first two examples.
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20 hours, 24 clicks and no one took notice - really?
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The Poll Board works in mysterious ways...
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What did you expect, Breumaster? Welcome to reality.
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Sorry, I had the experience on each P.S. I did, there were imediately some people who clicked and wrote something mostly within 30 Minutes. It mostly was 5 clicks in 30 Minutes following 1 or 2 comments wether good or bad in the same time. I just was wondering a little. So Jeorj, why do you think I'm not bound to reality? And DREAM_WEAVER, why this image and the lines? What do you want to say to me?

It seems to be to hard for some buddies to understand what I meant with this idea. I just wanted anyone to give exact 1 sequence, he or she considers to be the the ultimate sequence. Not two, not three, just one. I wanted to make a poll idea with more diversity. So that not only 2 or three people decide what sequence is the ultimate and has to be an option to be the ultimate for all the other people. But as I see, some people don't like that priciple. So I really ask myself, if I should skip that. For me it's a spare-time-thing. It was just a suggestion.

But I want to note:
At least two people obviously understood what this is about.
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Now I chuckle. ;)
Sorry for asking, but for me as a German it sometimes is hard to cope with the English language. I try my very best, but it often comes to missunderstandings and somthing like that. So I ask further to understand the intention of my buddies. Thank you for explaining. My struggles with the English language - I guess some time later, I'll write a book about it. ;) Put in title suggestions here:
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Breumaster don't think neither one of them wanted to offend you.

After ElM. changed the quote "god works in mysterious ways" to "The Poll Board works in mysterious ways... " other must have thought it will be funny to add something to that. :D

You can put Apocalypse Now as my suggestion by the way. I was just saying I like godfather sequence more.

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As I said, 2, mayby three people understood my intention from beginning.
I don't feel offended. I just was wondering what was said.

As I explained above:
You should take your ultimate sequence and suggest it or agree to it, if someone
else suggested it before. But in 'Apoklypse Now' it isn't really your ultimate sequence, because as you said it's in 'The Godfather', the baptist scene. Naming one and clicking another is a little like cheating to have suggested one. But ok, so I take your 'Apokalypse Now' suggestion on list, knowing you won't vote for it. Because you just suggest only 1 sequence.
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New rule: If your ultimate Sequence is already picked by another user, you can pick (only) 1 other Scene that might fit the criteria or agree to the option. It should be a scene you would prefer on second place, right after your ultimate sequence.
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FYI: :D
In Germany offending is something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2Qpmie5Gd0
:D
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You may want to add spoiler alert to that description maybe.
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I've grown an interest in German music lately. I have no idea what the lyrics are, but there are pretty damn good German metal bands. 
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But video above is nothing like those. :D
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In my experience, there is no point in inquiring about any lack of feedback or engagement around here, especially during or around holiday weekends. This poll suggestion seeks feedback yet also somehow sort of does the opposite of seeking feedback. Does that make sense? But maybe I see paradoxes where there are none.
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Thorin
Done. That's a good idea.

Jeorj Euler
I made an exact suggestion, where every user can put in exact 1 option, bound to rules. As I explained several times, I wanted diversity. Not 2 or 3 users doing all options they think should match for all the other people. It's an exact question, some did not understand at first sight. By doing it another way, the idea is not what it is meant to be. It's not a paradox. It's the attempt to bring diversity in a highly elitist movie question by asking not only three, maybe four people. In the best case there will be 35 people and when there are 20 at the end, it's fair enough.
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How many options do you want on the poll, Breumaster? Any number should be enough, right? Ten seems like a good number. Twenty is a good number too, but it may take time. There is no reason to believe a reconciliation would be reached right away.
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"That's for real movie nerds, freaks, professionals." Totally not an elitist remark, hm?
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On the subject movie it is. It may be normal for you to know so much about movies, but let me tell you: Germany (and maybe some other countries) are different from USA. When I tell someone how many movie I watch in a year, they ask me, if I've too much time. I've not more time than the others. I just use much time to do my hobby. My last kid is 19 y.o. So me and my wife have plenty of time to "waste" it on watching movies. For many people, we are freaks, even if the hobby filmwatching or moviewatching is accepted more and more in G. Others sit 6 hours on the river and do the fishing. No one would call that waisting time. That's ok by me.

For suggesting to the poll, the user should know the difference between low and high level entertainment. If one just watched 20 movies in his/her life, he/she might not know the difference. But there are thousands and thousands of people who are not in business, but like this form of art and have seen hundrets or thousands of movies. That's a good basis for judging if a sequence is elitist or not. Specially when they keep their orientation not only on critics. I often read or hear critics that write one from another. And some got their own head.

When you look at the examples that were mentioned and are on the list now, don't you think these sequences are elitist?
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I like this poll, but the problem is that I already got my answer: "The Godfather" the baptism sequence... I thought your rules were too restrictive, actually, it's not challenging enough... it's not a comment on the idea which is good... I wish I could think of something else but nothing can beat the climax of my all-time favorite movie.
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I guess you meant the sequence when Michael Corleone renouces from the bad on his son's baptism, while the other bosses got slaughtered on his order. That would be a perfect example for what I meant !  I just searched the database, but it's difficult to find an exact image for this scene. So please give me a link to the image that fits the most for you and I'll put it on the list with "The baptism sequence" and the suggested by note. Thank you for joining. As log as I find no better image, I'll use another image from the movie as a wild card.
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Done.
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This one feels more "intense"
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068646/mediaviewer/rm2730970624

It's a good thing to ask our favorite sequences but I feel like this poll could have a reasonable set of "objective" suggestions, I mean I couldn't imagine many classic sequences missing such as the Potemkin climax, the "News on March" from "Citizen Kane", the 'Singin' on the Rain' scene etc. etc. 
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I understand that. It's good, when many people suggest different high-climax-sequences. But the clue on everyone including myself can only suggest one of the options is, that anyone should clearly think of one! One, not two, not three. So it saves the whole thing from one person suggesting 10 options and dominating the ultimate-poll, which should be a choice of all of them who take part on it. So everybody has one voice to choose while making the poll. It's made by all who made it, not only by one person or one fraction. I want to have more diversity on this.
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I have put your image to the poll. It really is better. Thank you for suggesting. :D
I hope this will be a poll suggestion of many people.
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So please ELMo, no further suggestions, to not influence other users.
But - please still feel free to discuss. :)
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Too complicated perhaps.
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Yes, Jeorj.

That's for real movie nerds, freaks, professionals. But I realized, there really should be enough people here to find at least 20 options, isn't it ? It's no shame to take part, even if your option doesn't win. There are many different kinds of movie taste. I guess at the end there will be something other on top, not my sequence from 'The Good, the Bad and the Ugly', which I admire. I guess neither will be the docking sequence of 'Interstellar' on top at the end - But who knows ? Maybe one of it is ?

I guess most people will take the sequence from 'Godfather' or another big strike in movie history.
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My suggestion got such strict rules, because it really should be an ultimate sequence in movie history. When it comes to older movies (maybe before 1960), I might put down the 'more than 50.000 users rule'. That's debateable, if there are worthy opinion-suggestions.

This is not about winning or losing. It's about what most people mostly would take as "The Ultimate Movie Sequence" from them we users from pollboard have chosen before.
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Perhaps.
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A very broad topic- there's so many examples but one that has to be on the list is the final sequence in 2001: A Space Odyssey. I don't entirely know what it means, it's something about the rebirth of humanity, but one thing is for certain and that is it's absolutely breathtaking!  


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Thank you, James. :)
I've put your suggestion to the list.
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One of my favorite sequences is the Copacabana long take scene in Goodfellas which I call "Discoriving the Henry Hill's world". It's was a gem.


But since you are asking intensity, I opt for the amazing last performance in whiplash. That was intense https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2582802/...
If you find a better image, I'm totally fine.
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Ok, that are two good options. Which one would you rather see on this list. Only one of both can be on the list. Maybe you have an image of the 'Goodfellas' sequence. This is not only about scenes, it's about sequences. Maybe the 'Gooodfella'-sequence might fit in here ? Please tell me.
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I've put it to the list. But it's debateable, if I should count that as a scene or a sequence. As the title says, it's about sequences. In my huble opinion it's both, because the two actors are getting out of the frame sometimes and the audience can watch other people in some seconds. But it still stays debateable.
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It's a long take. It's hard to say but if you don't think that fit you can remove it, it's perfectly acceptable. :)
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No, it's ok by me. But I don't know how this discussion will turn out. For now I see, that there is no will to name only 1 sequence for many guys. A few will take the rules and only name one as you did and e.g. Moviesmith did. The question is, if it is to  hard to follow the hard rules i sat up for this ... I should call it elite of the sequences. I let your suggestion stay on the list. I see it as a scene and a sequence in one. And for me it follows the rules. But I can't write for other users.
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I see your point and I understand perfectly. I think the position of their rules is very clear.
The reason I put here 2 options wasn't that I wanted you to put both. My favorite is the Goodfellas, but in the description of your gs you said that it needed to be "intense" and this long take is not intense at all. So I thought if it has to be intense, then I'll opt for Whiplash.

... but since you said Goodfellas is acceptable, then yes. This is what I want my suggestion to be.

The main idea of ​​this research is to each suggest only one sequence to be your representative. I do not see the confusion around this.

Thanks for add my option. ;)

P.S: correct the fourth image link to the profile user.
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Once Upon a Time in America (1984)

Dominic is shot by Bugsy and dies in Noodles' arms. "Noodles... I slip... ped."

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087843/mediaviewer/rm1449662720
 


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Is it a scene or a sequence?
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Again with this.
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Idon't understand, Jeorj. Could you please explain for non-english-motherspeakers?
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There was a brief side discussion in an older thread about the difference between "scene" and "sequence", as the terms pertain to motion pictures.
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Oh, yeah. I know. This time it's sequences.
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leavey-2

As I have seen this movie about 10 to 12 years ago, I don't have a proper memory of this sequence. I let the discussion decide, if it is a sequence or just a scene. Since then I count it as a sequence. Thank you for suggesting. :D
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This part is an important sequence of events in the movie. After Dominic has been shot, Noodles retaliates and stabs Bugsy with a switchblade several times before a policeman tries to stop him. Noodles, still in a fit of rage about Dominic, stabs the cop and is arrested. He is sentenced to 12 years. His friends turn out to see him delivered to the juvenile reformatory. This marks the end of part one and sets the tone for the remainder of the movie.
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Thank you, I remember now. Yes, this really is a sequence. That's the stuff I meant with this p.s. :D
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Adding Exception from rules:

Movies from earlier than 1970 - Ratings should reach 15.000 or more.

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We now got 5 (!) options. Thank you, guys.
I guess, we'll reach the 20. Maybe 35 ?
It's up to you guys. I count on you.
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An interesting idea Breu.

FYC: The scene in which Derek stomps the head of one of the thief on the curb (from American History X)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120586/...
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Hi, Ibrahim.
This time it's not about scenes, it's about whole sequences. Just the scene is to less. I count it as 'The home burglary with following self-justice', then it's a sequence.
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Done. Thank you for contributing. :D
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I'm taking the 50.000 user ratings rule down for movies that were made before 1970.
For 1970's and later it's still 50.000
For movies made earlier than 1970 it's ...
15.000 now.

Sorry, I forgot - I've set the rule earlier.
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I understand you wanted voters to make their decision easily by adding only popular films. But that makes poll board's job really hard. :D
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I have apocalypse now final sequence in mind. (Not till the end) It starts with the scene Kurtz  visiting Willard's cell and ends with death scene of Kurtz. This may not be my final choice though.

(BTW, my vote goes to baptism sequence in Godfather no matter what my suggestion is.)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078788/mediaviewer/rm4198414592

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I take this as agreement to the 'The Godfather'-scene. So you won't really put 'Apocalypse Now' into the race. Ok by me.
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Done.
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FYC to round it out to ten choices
Background on the movie.
Its the cold war.
An effort by the Russians to jam NORAD has resulted in a false reading of an incoming Nuclear Attack that causes the U.S. to start an all out Nuclear attack on the USSR.
The efforts of the president to stop or recall all bombers fails and it results in one bomber bombing Moscow.
The President makes a gesture to bomb New York City to avert all out retaliation.
This is the American bomber pilot that has just dropped an A-Bomb on NYC. He has also just killed His Wife and Children that live there.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058083/mediaviewer/rm3421628160
Edward Binns in Fail-Safe 1964


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It has a connection to one of your other choices.
He is also one of The 12 Angry Men.
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Thank you, Ed.
I think of rounding it out to ten choices. Maybe it's the best. I hoped, there would be more users suggesting elitist sequences. I struggle with changing the definition to 'One user may suggest three examples'. I wanted to avoid, that just three users pick all the content on that poll suggestion. But I realize, that there seem to be no more who want to suggest, than that few users. Since I suggested it that way, no single poll of me got online. I think, I had good ideas. But maybe they're not interesting enough. I'm going to see that movie you suggested. For the claim of trying to create a elitist kind of poll suggestion, I have to. So please wait some Time, till I saw it. It may take some time. If I think it would fit to the suggestion, I'll put it on the list, immediately after I saw it.
So thank you for suggesting. I'm taking it to my consideration.
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At least I only did one! LOL
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Thank you for sugessting. I'll put it to the list, even though I think the movie is very unrealistic from the more modern point of view today. The acting and the first 2/3 part of the story is really good for the time, the movie was released. But film it today with the same writing and nowerdays actors, it will flop for sure - even if you would cast highly acclaimed actors. In the sixties it might be, that it catched the masses.
 With more knowlegde in the masses, it weakens strongly.
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If you think about it, 'The Sum of all Fears' is a close copy! A variation on the idea.
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I'd love to suggest one, but my scenes are from movies rated 6-7 or less.  :)
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