Poll Suggestion: What's You Reaction to the 'Frozen II' Teaser Trailer?

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"Hmm. too early to tell. We'll have to wait and see."

Arnold Schwarzenegger in Predator 1987




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"Yeah, it looked pretty neat! I'm very much looking forward to it, if it's a worthy sequel." I also liked the fact that it looks a little  dark.
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Paok: That's my answer, too!
Ed: That is too funny!  I will change the image.  :)
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Well, for some reason I cannot change my comment... I won't change the image, so sorry!  I want the poll to be all Frozen.  :)  But your pic is still awesome, lol.
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Stop trying to force my hand!!!  :D  LOL!
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Bump!
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Just watched a little gem, a French-Belgian production named "Minuscule" in the theater, something's telling me "Frozen II" will generate more buzz...

About the trailer, I'm not surprised, Elsa=badass, Anna=badass, Kristoff=badass (and always behind the 2) so it's gonna be badass... I was wondering who was the girl we see in the middle of the trailer, maybe it's a flashback she looks too young to be Elsa's girlfriend... or maybe she's their hidden (badass) sister... we'll see.

PS: is it me or are many major Disney princesses shown barefoot at some point of the film (Cinderella, Ariel, Rapuntzel, Elsa now...)
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Thanks for the input!  Every time I hear the word 'minuscule,' I think of the bad lady's line in 'Chicken Run' (although I loathe the movie): "I'm tired of making minuscule profits!"  
And then she see an ad that says, "Tired of making minuscule profits?" 
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Seriously, it's a crime that these animated movies aren't more known, it's a delight for both children and adults and without the whole "be yourself", "be true to yourself" messages every animated film feels obliged to deliver, simple movies, with little to no dialogue at all and with the cutest insects you'll ever see.
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Yes.  :)
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Yes indeed:)
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This is like the end of a conversation when everyone says, "Yep," about a hundred times not knowing how to end things, LOL!  :D
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Yep, the moment you start looking at your knees with that awkward smile, rolling your tongue in your mouth and nodding your head as if you were just agreeing with something your brain said...
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Exactly!!!  :D
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I'VE BEEN FROZEN OUT OF A FREEZE POLL!!!!!!!!
I'm getting the cold shoulder?


Eli Wallach in Batman 1966
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LOL!  What's the pic from?  :)
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Mr Freeze. One of many. Batman (1966)
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Oh, I see... the only Freeze I know of is Schwarzenegger, lol.
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I think this trailer is a reflection of our time and the new kinds of messages Disney movies are pushing to the young audience. Basically it's all about "POWER".

A long time ago, Disney was about "making your dreams come true" which made sense since most movies were adaptations of fairy tales, but even then, with a few exceptions, the characters deserved to have their dreams come true, they triumphed over the obstacles: Pinocchio learning the value of courage and self-sacrifice, Bambi the facts of life, Dumbo to overcome his fear...  Disney Renaissance came back to a more traditional narrative with the idea that "love, family or friendship" conquer all but even before, a gem like "The Sword in the Stone" had a positive message about the superiority of 'brains over brawn' or "The Jungle Book" made inevitable Mowgli going back to his roots... if it was made today, he would have followed "his own" path and lived as a bear with Baloo.

There was something both practical and inspirational in Disney movies, and I think this is why these movies stand the test of time, because they venture in the realm of the impossible but still, the core of the film is believable, that's why "Lady and the Tramp" is one of the all-time greatest romances. Now, they're still making heart-warming pictures like "Inside Out", the first part of "Up" or "Coco"... but "Frozen" exemplifies that new trend I absolutely hate which is "POWER", it's all about POWER seems like the ultimate goal for a girl (or a boy for that matter).

Power is important when it's not an ego-driving thing and I'm not saying this is "Frozen"'s message but that trailer makes it look like some lousy action picture, it's original by Disney standards and the animation looks great but it's so predictable for a movie that targets a young audience fed with superhero and Dwayne the Rock's blockbusters. 

Even the end of the trailer says it all, "you thought Elsa was badass, wait till you see Anna"
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Wow.
Don't get me wrong.  I love Frozen, and I'm very excited for this sequel (as long as they don't mess it up!).  I also love action movies - not really superhero ones, but a good Fast and Furious is fun sometimes.  

But your comment!  That was so insightful and true.  I think the first Frozen had a pretty touching message of love, but I totally see where you're coming from with the other movies.  Yes!  If Jungle Book was now, Mowgli would always be a bear.  :)  

I think it's neat that Elsa has powers, but that's not all there is to a good story.  That is not the measure of a character, male or female.  I loved Anna the way she was in Frozen - determined but sweet.  The sword stunt was cool and all, but somehow I wish she would just be herself and be a classic Princess: wise yet normal!

Sorry, I just had to gush over that comment.  :)
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I was speaking from the heart, I have a daughter and she likes any kind of animated program, of course, she's more likely to relate to female characters and there are cartoons she still regards as "boy's thing" but I don't like the way some TV or movie programs pretend to teach children what it is to be a boy or a girl or both as if they tried to prevent some patterns of behavior or perception from the start, as if it was wrong for a girl to like a "traditional" princess or not appropriate... but here's my take on the princess thing.

Girls don't like princesses because they WANT to be princesses but maybe because they come the closest to their own representation of beauty, looks-wise and fashion-wise, I mean in a very innocent and non-sophisticated way, like a superhero for "powers". Hence the "Wow, you look like a princess". And this is why the Red Carpet sections are filled with pictures of female celebrities more than male. It's all about the colors, the makeups, the glitter, the shoes, the smile, the diversity (vs. the tuxedo)... and this is why there have been blond, red-haired princesses, brunettes, Caucasian, Oriental, Nordic, Chinese, African-American, traditional, modern, but I don't recall any princess who wasn't pleasant-looking, overweight, bespectacled or just plain or who didn't wear beautiful clothes at some point of the movie. Princesses are supposed to be beautiful.

But you can tell those who make these films have a problem with that, maybe a complex, they think girls want to be princesses because they want to be some damsels in distress so the prince in his shining armor come to save them with a kiss, this is why they mixed the "princess" with the "superhero" now as if they believed princesses were bad or let's just say 'incomplete' models. In the end, it's not that bad to have a princess who's both beautiful and powerful but Disney has often centered on strong female characters anyway, you have Mulan, Ariel (to some degree), Anita was as protective to her children as Pongo, Belle saved the Beast, even in "Sleeping Beauty", it was the three fairies who saved the day, not Prince Philip.

Nothing personal against Elsa, but I prefer Rapuntzel, now she was a great character who intelligently subverted the usual princess tropes and for laughs, I liked "Frozen" but the sequel's trailer seems to indicate that they're really taking Elsa's character more than seriously, instead of just letting her go :).
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Again, wow.  :)
Yes, Disney (and many other princess movie makers) go to one extreme or the other with the female role models.  They're either completely stupid or some kind of knight/warrior.  For some reason it's hard for them to create a good princess character anymore.  

In original fairy tales and foreign fantasy movies (which stick to the original ideas) the girls are amazing!  They are sensible and mind-strong, but still enjoy being girly.  

But let's not underestimate the feminine princesses.  People tend to pick on Cinderella, because she 'didn't do anything to get her happily ever after.'  She just made wishes and twirled around.  But wait... she did do something!  The moral of the story, if you will.  The Stepsisters were cruel, jealous, rude, demanding, and abusive!  Cinderella won the Prince because she had morals/good qualities.  She was sweet, gentle, and understanding.  It's a shame that newer princess movies shove aside those qualities and make it all about, as you have said, "power."  If Cinderella was a mean person but she had fire powers, she still would not have gotten rewarded.

Anyway, my fave is Rapunzel, too - I think she's a very happy medium and super fun!  :)
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Absolutely. In fact, my comment about how overused POWER is could apply to both sexes, I don't think a profusion of super-heroic or super-strong models is beneficial for boys either. I just relate to the "Frozen" case because I had to watch that movie a thousand times and whatever I will say about the film, good or bad, will come from someone who can recite "Let it Go" by heart!
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Speaking word of wisdom, Let it Go.
Oops wrong!
My Bad!
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Yep, lol!  Great song... but let's let it go - d'oh!  :D