Poll Suggestion: Low Budget True Life Film Dramas About Serious Human Matters

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Everybody knows about the big empathic blockbusters like 'Schindlers List' or 'A Beautiful Mind'. But what about the little movies which are also humanitarian in some way?

When you look below, what would be the movie you would pick as an important movie of human matters? If there is more than one movie, pick the one that moved you the most.

(Just non-mainstream-movies with a rating of 7/10 or higher with a story based on real events. Budget below 20 million US$.)

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls026389439/
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By creating this list I searched for the he german movie 'In The Fade'
with the german title ('Aus dem Nichts'). On this page with the picture of
'In The Fade', there is a director named Angela Summereder stated. But
the movie 'In The Fade' with Diane Kruger is directed by Fatih Akin. Can
anyone check if that is correct? I don't understand why this is and gather
there happened a mistake.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6450042/
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Race, Philomena, Papillion
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Breumaster,

I recommend a shorter title. Please consider changing:
Worthy Low Budget Movie Drama Based on True Events Which Made You Cry.

To:
Low Budget Tearjerkers Film Dramas Based on True Events
or
Low Budget Tearjerker True Life Film Dramas
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Yes, that's better. Thank you. :D
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No - I just got another Title that's better. The word 'Tearjerker' doesn't fit at all !
I think second world war dramas shouldn't be titled "Tearjerker". No.
Sorry, but i just had the time to look closer. That's no good title.
I changed it. These are all serious subjects. I just read what 'Tearjerker'
means. That's a totally misdemeanour when you look at these movies.
Sorry, but my english is worse than I thought. :(
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I shortened the description. And I completely changed the title to express what these movies are really about. So a new discussion can start.
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Just shortened it a little more to concentrate on the main matter without getting cheesy. ;)
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Breumaster,

I updated the title of your thread and updated the description accordingly.
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Thank you very much. I'm glad that you changed it. :) At last I had time to put more effort in this suggestion. So the wrong word oppened another view on the whole thing. I used the opportunity to find the better words, overtrow the old suggestion and create a better suggestion of the same content by making it more compact. It's better now. :D Thank you, Dan. :D
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How low can the budget be? :P
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Hi, Jeorj Euler.
below $20,000,000.01  ;D  down to   $0.01
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Thank you. I just saw, I haven't updated the $xxx,xxx.xx-thing. Now it is. ;)
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I wonder what the general feeling here about foreign "art house" films is.
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You mean in a other poll suggestion?
Or do you think of this p.s.?
I've changed a few things to make it more clickable. :)
Thank you for your *bump* to re-awake this idea. It grew a little. ;)
Please klick the list. :)


https://www.imdb.com/list/ls026389439/
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Jeorj,
That's one aspect of the list. Foreign art haus matters.
But now there are also some american productions on the list.
That's ok by me.
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P.S.:

I still wonder why some are latently upset, because someone doesn't put any american movie on the list. We here in germany are consuming mostly 90% american made movies. It's ok for us. But there are many non-american movies, that are also great stuff. The thing with the lip-synchronity we have in all of that movies. But ok, Germany reached world championship in synchronizing. :D

There has to be no film-war, like it is with the trading thing. Movies are not steel, isn't it? When you really want to know what the feeling about foreign art house movies is in america, you should exclude the rest of the world from taking the poll, if it becomes one. Else you have people from the whole world voting it. And then it's not representative for america itself. Please note: Sometimes two thirds of the profits of american made movies come from foreign boxoffices. ;D
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I don't know.
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FYC,
I don't think you are using the term "low budget" appropriately here. A low budget film could be argued to run as high as $5 million, in my opinion. depending on the country. According to an exhaustive study,What’s the average budget of a low or micro-budget film?  half of that is $2.5 million is more appropriate for a film to be called "low budget".

I would suggest using the term Budget-Minded instead in the title and specify the maximum budget in the question to be clear like you have. I am unclear what you mean by non-mainstream. Do you mean limited release, indie studio productions or something else? I would specify what qualifies?

I can see you have changed it to, "Necessary True Life Film Dramas for Humanity" I do like the premise though of focusing on lower profile, lower budget, indie films that have something to say or a "true story" to tell.

Title Ideas
Humanitarian Budget-Minded True Story Films
True Story Budget-Minded Movies That Speak to Humanity
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Hi, urbanemovies. :D
Thank you for being interested in this idea. The matter you mentioned was discussed long ago. There is no mentioning of "low budget" in the list, I corrected that some time ago. I think my title fits with the idea. But I will mention the budget-minded orientation in the description.
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To All:

I've done some major improvements to make this P.S. more klickable.
There are intentional no names mentioned in the #s to make the question
neutral about catchphrases and clicheés. Mentioning a name could
cause a *click* in the head. I try to avoid that  for people who haven't seen
any of these movies on the list. I want them to orientate themselfs on the
contents of the movie's micro-synopsis I wrote to the #s.
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For ‘Land of Mine’, you seem to have used the Danish word ‘dansk’ instead of English.

Also, “guarding” is probably better than “treating”.

The story of a prison officer in a Danish war camp, guarding a group of young POWs
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Thank you, I'll correct it. :)
Yes, it's really better now ! :)
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(Is Angela's Ashes not low-budget?)
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I first suggested Angela’s Ashes, but then saw that its page indicated a budget of $50 million. Wikipedia says $25 million, but that is still a lot.

I changed it to Bloody Sunday, which says £2 million.
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Thank you, Peter.
It's nice you're interested in. I have put your suggestions on the list. I like the subject of this poll suggestion. Social matters are so important in this world. I hope the text is ok. Tell me, if I should change it ... to ...
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Do they all have to start with "The story of"? It's very repetitive.

I second Rabbit Proof Fence - frickin' heartbreaking.

Notes: 
#4 - German should be capped
#5 - wording should be revised - no need to say circumcision twice. I thinking maybe something like 'The story of an African refugee who grew up to become a world-famous model, and used her fame to fight the scourge of female circumcision.'
#7 - suggest 'The story of a team of Tibetan volunteers, working to protect rare mountain antelopes from poachers.'
#8 - suggest 'The story of two teenage girls being abused and held captive by a mentally ill woman.'
#9 - suggest 'They story of a German woman who, after her husband and son are killed by neo-Nazis, tries to fight for justice.'
#11 - Christy Brown is as well know for his poetry as he is for his art. I suggest adding it - 'The story of a disabled writer and painter...'
#12 - Danish should be capitalized
#13 - suggest 'The story of a transgender man simply trying to live his life in a hostile environment."
#15 - suggest 'The story of a young, black father, tragically murdered because of racism.'
#16 - suggest 'The story of an old man riding a lawnmower nearly 300 miles to make up with his ailing brother.'
#18 - suggest 'The story of a quadriplegic who writes a book through communication using just his eyelid.'
#23 - suggest 'The story of an Irishman in England, wrongly imprisoned with his ailing father for decades for crimes they didn't commit.'
#25 - suggest 'The story of three half-caste Aboriginal girls who, using the fence which separates most of Western Australia from the rest of the country, walked 1,500 miles to return to their home, from which they had been abducted.'
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FYC:
Hotel Rwanda - $17.5M - 8.1 stars - The story of a hotel manager who struggled to protect innocent civilians from both sides of revolutionary war.
Rescue Dawn - $10M - 7.3 stars - The story of a military pilot who crashes and is held and tortured in a prison camp before trying to escape.
Into the Wild - $15M - 8.1 stars - After abandoning all worldly possessions and ending his relationship with his family, a young recent college graduate travels the US, ending up alone in the desolate Alaskan wilderness.
Intouchables - $13M - 8.5 stars - Two lost souls find each other when an African immigrant applies for a job as an assistant to a quadriplegic aristocrat.

12 Years a Slave
- $20M - 8.1 stars
Unted 93 - $15M - 7.6 stars
Dog Day Afternoon - $1.8M - 8.0 stars
Silkwood - $10M - 7.2 stars
Mississippi Burning - $15M - 7.8 stars
The Killing Fields - $14.4M - 7.9 stars
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...and finally somebody who understands this stuff comes along :)
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Jeorj, is that a good thing? 

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:)
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With 'The storyof ....' the sentences were more complete.
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Um... I would rather not consider $10-20M budgets low on any level. While standards for large Hollywood productions are pushing budgets forward to more then $100M and beyond $10-20M is still a very large and strong studio budget category. I think that we should concentrate more on really low budget, like $1-5M (those under $1M are usaually called "no budget", although $500,000 is still a sum you can make a stuido-grade movie with).
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Thank you for teaching me, Nikolay. With all this $xxx,xxx,xxx.xx movies, it's easy to consider $20 Mio. as low budget. ;)
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I'm not teaching, merely informing on some conventions I've noted through years about the subject. :) Budgets are a relative thing and while there are certain categories and general rules, each and single filmmaking project is a separate case in that regard. Still, $10-20M budget movies I'd say are strong enough and are likely to have a theatrical distribution, while once we venture into category of $1-5M things became far from being sure.

And, of course, if we venture into a category of $0M budget movie we will likely hear some interesting stories about low budget techniques and problems, which are usually quite inspiring. :) 
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One twentieth the budget of a highest-budget movie of a given year is the "low-budget" standard for that same year then? :P
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I was always open about not belonging to filmbiz, so thank you for giving me another view.
I changed the title to 'Less Expensive ...'
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Hallo, Jen.

This really is a great help, you provide.

I changed it and let the "The story of ..." thing away.
Hope it sounds better now. Ok, I will break the 25 Titles rule an do some of your
suggestions on the list. Except '12 Years a Slave'. The matter, why I've tied the rules
so hard is, because I want more little, but good movies a chance.
When I put '12 years a slave' n the list, I know what happens.
Most other movies below $20 Mio. will get no chance.The same with 'Intouchables'.
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You're welcome. :)

I don't think Intouchables is as well known in the US as it is in Europe.

I suggest you review your descriptions to be sure they are all full sentences. I notice some of them are fragments.
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With 'The story of ...' they were more complete, I think.
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Quote:
"I don't think Intouchables is as well known in the US as it is in Europe.
End of quote.

It sure is known. Hollywood is about to make a remake of that movie to provide better lip-synchonity.
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One thought: the fact that large European countries dub foreign movies ensures that they reach larger audiences. It‘s often mentioned in American reviews that this or that movie „only plays in arthouse theaters because it is subtitled“. When something like Intouchables or The Schticks is shown in Germany, it‘s just a well-made comedy, not „exotic“ or too challenging for a mainstream audience.

Of course it‘s just a little advantage compared to the fact that dubbing necessarily misrepresents the actual movie.
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That's right for many movies. Best examples are the Mel Brooks movies. They are really better in original. But there are movies, which are better dubbed. Specially when they use many specialist terms.  Or scenes like gunnery seargent Hartman in 'Full Metal Jacket'. In the german dub he's the hell of a bad dog. In english he sounds much softer. Scully and Moulder sound more sexy in German. :)

When it comes to 'Intouchables' I think there can be wordplays and puns lost in translation. Maybe I put it on the list, later. '12 years a slave' I could put on it, too. But I don't want to, because I still think the other movies would get very less chances. '12 Years a Slave' was a 9 time nominee and 3 time winner. That's not the spirit of this poll suggestion. ;)
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That remake of Intouchables already came out last year - it played at three festivals and still doesn't have a date for a wider release. The Upside is pretty much dead.
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You can say "story of" in various ways, instead of the same every single time. Use your English thesaurus. It's better, though, if you don't start with something like that - it's useless information. We already know it's a story - that's what film is and does, most of the time.

In most of your fragments you just are missing a verb or are using the wrong one. For example, "A teacher teaching his students the worth of verbal dexterity for their fight against racism." Teaches fixes it - A teacher teaches his students...

Better would be to not use both teacher and teaches. For example, "A debate coach teaches his students the worth of verbal dexterity in the fight against racism."

If you are listing two more more things that were accomplished in a film, you could put one before the subject/verb. For example, "After abandoning all worldly possessions and ending his relationship with his family, a young recent college graduate travels the US, ending up alone in the desolate Alaskan wilderness."

If it were "A young recent college graduate abandons all his worldly possessions, ending his relationship with his family, travels the US and ends up alone in the desolate Alaskan wilderness" you're giving the exact same information, but the sentence is bulky and doesn't read as well.

You don't need to have "a story of..." etc. You can just say, "Two F.B.I. Agents, with wildly different styles, arrive in Mississippi to investigate the disappearance of some civil rights activists."

See, you don't have "a story of" in there and it works just fine. Better, I would say.

Cheers,
The Grammar Fairy
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Thank you, Jen. Nice givin' me new Thoughts about it. :)
The main problem is to keep the text as short as possible,
to not scare away the users from reading. Much content
in short words. ;)  That's doubling the effort. I made it nowlike I think it could be good. And I've put 'The Intouchables'on the list. By facing the facts, it's a fine pick for sure.
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It needs to be based on a true story?

If not, i recommended "Loveless" (2017).
It's very touching and shows the dark faces of as human. The Selfishness, Ignorance... 
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Yes, they have all to be real life stories. That's the half of the core of this poll suggestion. The other core is, that it has to be made with lesser than $20 millions. And of course it has to be a drama. These are the three main criteria for suggestions.
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Oh,so this doesn't fit. kkk
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Ku Klux Klan?
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*bump*
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Hi, Ed Jones (XLIX)


Thank you for the excessive like-orgy on my replies and comments.
But I have to dissapoint you. 'Missing in Action' is rated below 7.0/10.
It's rated 5.4/10
So I won't put it on the list. But thank you for the likes.
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MAthePA

Thank you for contributing.
'Conviction' is already on the list
'Starfish' does not match witch the rule. It's rated below 7.0/10

The other three could match, but I only have 1 free option. maybe I would
skip options for better options.
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I've put 'The Elephant Man' on the list.
On 'Hunger' and 'The Sea Inside' I just have to decide, if I take it on the list.
That's because I have to kick other option when I do this.
You know it's limited to 35 options. Please wait a little.
Thank you for contributing. If I should link your suggestion
to your IMDb-Profile, please tell me. I just linked it to your getsatisfaction profile.
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I've thought it's enough to link the poll-discussion thread, so did not expect to be linked personally ))

It's a pity to see the Starfish is not so popular for movie-goers. I understand why it will never reach a top, but in fact this movie is a rare example of perfect docudrama (don't confuse with dramadoc). Filming took place on real story-location in the Rays' home county of Rutland. The creator, Bill Clark is from Rutland and personally knows Tom and Nicola Ray. Each moment of the film is just prototyped from out reality. There may be some third characters acting who are residents of Rutland but not professional actors.
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Cool!
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Changed the title to:
Necessary True Life Film Dramas for Humanity

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Breumaster,
Since the "Low Budget" is changed to "Necessary", have you revised the list? 
I'm not sure the list may be complete now, e.g. my suggestions were brought only from low-budgets.
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Hi, MAthePA. :D
Thank you for being interested in this list. I will evaluate the list again and maybe I kick some options. So you can suggest new ones. Is there a special order from most wanted to lesser necessary in your own suggestions? Please tell me and I will put the on the list as replacement for the kicked.
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Left out
'United 93'
'Papillon' (1973) and
'Dog Day Afternoon'
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Hehe,
You know, there is no special order for a lonely one. For the last variant centering at "humanity", only The Elephant Man (1980) remains out of the 5 suggested initially.
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*bump*
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FYC:
God Save Our Farm
Stick and Stones (the one about hockey, not baseball)
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Took 'Sticks and Stones' (2008) on the list. 'God Save Our Farm' is a drama, but I can't see that it is a real-life-drama.
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Hmm, I thought it was true... maybe not.  Thanks for letting me know!