PS: All about Beethoven (2020 poll series)

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I have the idea to do a poll series with other users about Ludwig van Beethoven. It happens to be the masters 250th Birthday on December, 17th 2020. We got one year. I want to collect several ideas on polls for Beethoven. There might a be a fun poll about the dogs called Beethoven inbetween the other polls, but in a dignified way, without joking to hard on the genius.

My poll would be:
Title:

All about Beethoven: Best Beethoven Biographies

Intro:

Ludwig van Beethoven was born on 17th of December 1770 A.D. in the federal city of Bonn, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany. We celebrate his 250th Birthday on Thursday, 17th December 2020. In this Poll series we want to shine through one of the biggest music genius in history. How has Beethoven influenced the movie history? This time we go through the biographies. Which movie, including feature dramas and documentaries is your favorite Beethoven biography? Celebrate here.

List:

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls091854062/

Poll:

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i love it breu...and my choice would be 'in search of beethoven'...

i hadn't seen, or until now, heard of 'following the ninth', but i'm really looking forward to it...

great idea....maybe you could do a poll on various classical composers in general, or perhaps one on various movies that have used beethoven's music (even briefly) within their score (excluding the obvious movies you already mentioned...)

i'm really looking forward to seeing what you and others come up with...but for now...i leave this symphony unfinished...
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Hi, rocky. :)

I can't believe you didn't hear about his fifth (my favorite) Symphony, we in G call "Die Schicksals-Sinfonie" ("The symphony of fate"):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv2WJMVPQi8
It's a pure Masterpiece. Berhard Haitink did the 9th a few years ago - masterful interpretation, delightful and well recorded.
What about "Für Elise"? This is a pianotune which is well known over the whole world:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mVW8tgGY_w
And as ElMo wrote: Die Mondscheinsonate:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8T17Eg2wbM
Have fun with Beethoven (and AC/DC as well ;) )
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P.S.: In first it's just an idea. I don't know where it will go, but I would love, if we made a Beethoven-week with one poll about Beethoven until 17th of December. To celebrate an outstanding aniversary: A quarter century, 250 years. I guess the celebrations in D will be very delightful.
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lol....i was referring to the documentary 'following the ninth'....
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Hi, Breu
Good idea but I'm not sure the majority of users are familiar with all these docs, I would have put the question differently: "which movie/documentary would you be most interested to watch?" I think it's fair to assume that if the question is asked that way, it would elicit more "immediate" responses, right now, I have no favorite movie to vote for so I don't know what to do with your list (unless your poll addresses  a certain category of users who would be familiar with these films)
Still, as iconic as Beethoven is, he didn't have his "Amadeus" like Mozart had and let's be honest, even Mozart is mostly known through Milos Forman's film, there's no other movie that really shone a light on his great legacy  like that film (or the play) did... 
So I'm not criticizing the idea but to be more constructive, I believe the best possible homage to Beethoven would be to his music first because that's the first thing we identify about him, the music.
If you want to compile all the memorable uses of Ludvig Van B's music in movies or cartoons or other media, check these lists, you might find some interesting stuff:
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls074631743/
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls074627042/
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls074622802/
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls074909753/
My favorite uses of Ludvig Van B are that segment from "Moonlight Sonata", anyone who grew up with "The Smurfs" will recognize it (it starts at 8:05)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tr0otuiQuU
I just love it.... or maybe "The Ode to Joy" when the vault opens in "Die Hard"? (1:24)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMKQVPV1pf0

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very cool lists elmo...thanx for picking that up...

and as far as the other films and documentaries, i've actually seen most of them, and as far as having his own 'amadeus', 'immortal beloved' was supposed to be ludwig's big moment in film...
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Thank you, ElMo. I changed that. I think you are right. Thank you for helping.
I grew up between classical music, old school rap, all kinds of rock and independent jazz music. For me music is an universal media to share all what's good in mankind and also the negative stories or melancholic feelings, like in the moonshine sonata, which are also necessary. Beethoven loved life and the ode to joy is the most exploding outburst of positive feeling of being together and loving each other. It's so packed with positivity and high language that it became the European Hymn later.

I want to thank you for your ideas and contributions to the issue. My intention was to give the people a main topic (All About Beethoven:) and my dream would be to catch up 6 other users to make an idea under that topic to make up 7 days with one Beethoven theme up to his birthday. But for now all things about that are open. When I do this, I want to do this with other users, not just stand alone. ;)
Hope there are a few more classic friends like me in here. :D
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Breumaster,

How quickly time passes! I distinctly remember celebrating Beethoven's 200th birthday in 1970. I also remember annoying my classmates by wishing them a happy Beethoven's birthday.

Charles Shultz created this Peanuts comic strip 49 years ago.
https://www.gocomics.com/peanuts/1970/12/16
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I'm very delighted about you being a classical music fan, too. :D The fan base gets thinner every decade. :( Most of the works in classical music are high quality in making. That's what I can't say on any genre.
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Breumaster,

I expected that you would have guessed that I am an avid classical music fan since I've made it well known that Fantasia is my favorite film. I became a classical music fan in large part due to the music used in Looney Tunes cartoons. I vividly remember proclaiming to my classmates in first grade that classical music is vastly superior to rock music.
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Yes, have guessed that before. Just wanted to state it again. :D
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Dan:
I just read in Audio, which is the biggest German technique magazin for hifi-components, that the Pittsburgh SO Orchestra did a new recording of the fifth and the seventh symphony for the 250th anniversary of Beethoven. Sometimes Audio packs a disc on the magazin with examples of music on the front of the magazin. It's the magazin 01/2020. If you got international press, you might test it. They got the first part of the fifth on disc, conducted by the austrian Manfred Honeck. It's wide orchestred, with strong and fine dynamic. Sounds very clear with a big room in it, very good. I guess I'll buy that.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/816Dhe2qcjL._SX522_.jpg

I guess you already know a good record of the ninth? One of my best is conducted by Bernard Haitink.

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Breumaster,

Thanks. I will have to check this out when time permits.
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Beethoven is my favorite composer of all time. My music is horrible and I'm not even deaf, I don't know how he became that good (I mean, I know it used vibration, I read it in one of his biography), but it is still very impressive. 

Fun Fact: He is actually younger than Mozart, most people think that he is older because he died at 57 and Mozart at 36. You can observer as similar thing with Marilyn  Monroe and Elizabeth II, they are almost the same age, but everybody think that Marilyn Monroe is younger

Did you know that 2020 is also the 270th death anniversary of Johann Sebastian Bach who has more follower on Spotify than Mozart and Beethoven.
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I know. It's some time ago I read of several historical resources, that Beethoven wanted to study from Mozart. At that time Beethoven was younger than Mozart, who was born on Jannuary 17th, 1756 A.D. So Mozart was 16 years older than Beethoven, when both lived. Beethoven had a few setbacks when he wanted to catch a place to study from Mozart. Later Mozart died and the opportunity to study from Mozart wasn't anymore. Franz Xaver Süßmayr wrote then end of the Requiem, which Mozart couldn't end himself to get a little money for Constanze, Mozart's wife and his bereaved children. Mozart was a gambler, a bon vivant. The most expensive post were his enormous worthy works and a very rich wardrobe. At his grave were just a few people attending. But it wasn't a mass grave like the movie 'Amadeus' tells.

To come back to Beethoven. Maybe you wanna do one of the polls? Would that be an idea?

And please start the idea about Bach. Maybe I would have an idea about him. ;)
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I'm trying to find a good title for the Bach: Poll series, but I don't have so many ideas, and I don't want to copy your reference to All About Eve.
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That was not intended, but anyway - why not use it? You will find a fitting intro.
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"Favorite Film Featuring Beethoven's Symphony"

I guess Dan made this poll in the past - "Films That Feature Symphony"

Right Dan?
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DC,

Guilty as charged:
Films that Feature a Symphony

The focus of Breumaster's poll suggestion is significantly than my poll and should be viable in around 364 days.
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Hi, Dibyayan. :D
My poll idea is different and centered only on Beethoven, while Dan's idea is about symphonies by different composers. Both ideas can exist side by side.
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