Live Poll: Best All-Time USA Box Office Titleholder

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These nine movies at one time over the past 75 years were the highest domestic grossing films ever in the USA. As determined by theater patrons who voted with their pocketbooks in the total number of tickets sold, as well as, total USA box office dollars, each held the title of "All-Time USA Box Office Champion. Collectively, when adjusted for inflation in 2017 dollars, they still retain the top seven spots, each with a billion dollar USA box office. Sources: Box Office Mojo and Wikipedia

Which movie that held at one time the title, "All-Time Domestic USA Box Office Champion" is the best of the best?

See the list of domestic USA all-time box office total receipts record holders here: http://www.imdb.com/list/ls033254766/

Poll: https://www.imdb.com/poll/MuWc0hA6unI/
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Titanic.
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This is not much different from this one (influential doesn't mean the best, but it's still a positive judgment) :http://www.imdb.com/poll/qtyyqN1KVU8/

How about just adding "Force Awakens" to the first list?

By the way, I can't even log with Facebook anymore, they suspended my account and I have to show them my ID card, so much for using social networks... sorry to use this poll for the rant, but I just realized I couldn't even log with my Facebook GS account, so I'm using the Youtube one, now. What a mess!
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I have no idea what record these films broke or even if it is a single record, as it is unclear in the question of the other poll. I suspect it is about world grosses as it includes Godfather and Jurassic Park, which did not hold the domestic all-time title. Force Awakens highest ranking on the all-time worldwide list is third and unless it is re-released will not claim the world record, even then it is unlikely. While, the lists are similar, it does show some the differences between the US and worldwide markets Some, films do better in one or the other, sometimes they do well both domestically as well abroad.
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Titanic (1997)
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Thanks, most of these titles don't get enough credit.
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You're missing a quotation mark after "All-Time USA Box Office Champion
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Added 14 Nov 2018 option

The Birth of a Nation 1915 | Movie 6.7 (19,692)
Former All Time USA Domestic Box Office Champion
USA Title Reign: 1915 - 1942

I initially left this title off the list because it gets a bit tricky. It reign is not disputed, it had such a commanding lead it took Gone with the Wind almost four years of ticket sales to catch it  a quarter century later (and even that it is in dispute, as the case for under-reporting is strong),. But, its actual  ticket sale total varies depending on the source. Complicating matters, the film was distributed on a "states' rights" basis in which licenses to show the film were sold outright. Also, coupled with the practice of under reporting, numerous fortunes made from the film, tickets being sold at a premium of 2-3 times the cost of a normal ticket and sheer volume of ticket sales that had never been seen before. All, help make a strong case for a higher box office number. I also think there is some historical revisionism at play here. Today, people want to distance themselves and down play how embraced the film was in its day.

Box office performance (from Wikipedia)
"The box office gross of The Birth of a Nation is not known, and was long subject to exaggeration.[62] When it opened tickets were sold at premium prices; the film played at the Liberty Theater in New York City for 44 weeks with tickets priced at $2.20 (equivalent to $53 in 2017).[63] By the end of 1917, Epoch reported to its shareholders cumulative receipts of $4.8 million,[64] and Griffith's own records put Epoch's worldwide earnings from the film at $5.2 million as of 1919,[65] although the distributor's share of the revenue at this time was much lower than the exhibition gross. In the biggest cities, Epoch negotiated with individual theater owners for a percentage of the box office; elsewhere, the producer sold all rights in a particular state to a single distributor (an arrangement known as "state's rights" distribution).[66] The film historian Richard Schickel says that under the state's rights contracts, Epoch typically received about 10% of the box office gross—which theater owners often underreported—and concludes that "Birth certainly generated more than $60 million in box-office business in its first run".[64]

By 1940 Time magazine estimated the film's cumulative gross rental (the distributor's earnings) at approximately $15 million.[67] For years Variety had the gross rental listed as $50 million, but in 1977 repudiated the claim and revised its estimate down to $5 million.[64] It is not known for sure how much the film has earned in total, but producer Harry Aitken put its estimated earnings at $15–18 million in a letter to a prospective investor in a proposed sound version.[65] It is likely the film earned over $20 million for its backers, and generated $50–100 million in box office receipts.[4] In a 2015 Time article, Richard Corliss estimated the film had earned the equivalent of $1.8 billion adjusted for inflation, a milestone that at the time had only been surpassed by Titanic (1997) and Avatar (2009) in nominal earnings.[68]


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Monaco, James (2009). How to Read a Film:Movies, Media, and Beyond. Oxford University Press. p. 262. ISBN 978-0-19-975579-0. The Birth of a Nation, costing an unprecedented and, many believed, thoroughly foolhardy $110,000, eventually returned $20 million and more. The actual figure is hard to calculate because the film was distributed on a "states' rights" basis in which licenses to show the film were sold outright. The actual cash generated by The Birth of a Nation may have been as much as $50 million to $100 million, an almost inconceivable amount for such an early film.($1.275 billion to $2,550 billion inflation adjusted)

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Wasko, Janet (1986). "D.W. Griffiths and the banks: a case study in film financing". In Kerr, Paul. The Hollywood Film Industry: A Reader. Routledge. p. 34. ISBN 978-0-7100-9730-9. Various accounts have cited $15 to $18 million profits during the first few years of release, while in a letter to a potential investor in the proposed sound version, Aitken noted that a $15 to $18 million box-office gross was a 'conservative estimate'. For years Variety has listed The Birth of a Nation's total rental at $50 million. (This reflects the total amount paid to the distributor, not box-office gross.) This 'trade legend' has finally been acknowledged by Variety as a 'whopper myth', and the amount has been revised to $5 million. That figure seems far more feasible, as reports of earnings in the Griffith collection list gross receipts for 1915–1919 at slightly more than $5.2 million (including foreign distribution) and total earnings after deducting general office expenses, but not royalties, at about $2 million.

IMDb Box Office Trivia The Birth of a Nation 1915
The original budget for the film was $40,000, but D.W. Griffith spent $110,000, the largest amount ever spent on a film up to that time.

In proportion to its costs, this is one of the most profitable films in history.

The film was so successful that it spawned the first sequel in the history of cinema: The Fall of a Nation (1916). No copies of the sequel are known to exist and it is consequently a lost film.

When it opened in New York City, ticket prices were $2.00 each, which was considered astronomical at the time. In modern-day currency, accounting for inflation, that would be about $17-$20. One million people saw the film within a year of its release.

A huge demand for film prints quickly wore out the one and only negative. All later copies of the film had to be made from prints, causing reduced quality.

Because of the lax accounting methods of its distributors, it was difficult to determine how much the film actually made at the box office.

Due to the chaotic nature of film distribution of the time, numerous fortunes were made on this film by men who had nothing to do with the actual production. Louis B. Mayer was one such beneficiary, who obtained state's right distribution rights for the film on the east coast and the profits allowed him to launch Louis B. Mayer Productions, which soon relocated to Los Angeles.

Some of the investors were H.E. Aitken and Jesse L. Lasky, among many others in Hollywood at that time. The film's success is what helped the three to form their own film studios--Lasky started Famous Playes-Lasky, which eventually became Paramount Pictures, and Aitken was involved in the founding of several production companies, such as Triangle Film Corp., Mutual Film Corp. and Majestic Motion Pictures, among others.

First film to be shown in the White House (to President Woodrow Wilson).

Generally considered to mark the birth of modern American cinema.

First film to be what we now term a "blockbuster"."
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Thanks, your help was much appreciated.
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Box Office Mojo Domestic Box Office Totals (as of Aug. 12, 2019)

non-inflation adjusted
1 Star Wars: The Force Awakens BV $936,662,225 2015
2 Avengers: Endgame BV $857,961,559 2019

inflation adjusted
11 Star Wars: The Force Awakens BV $974,117,000 $936,662,225 2015
16 Avengers: Endgame BV $857,961,559 2019


Avengers: Endgame 2019 | Movie
USA Title Reign: ????


Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens 2015 | Movie
All Time Domestic Box Office Champion Current USA Titleholder
USA Title Reign: 2016 - Now