Live Poll: Movies You Love, but Dictators Hate

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Which of these select movies banned during a past or present authoritarian regime or dictatorship* is your favorite forbidden film? Sources: Wikipedia, The Economist *Democracy Index Scale 0-4

See a partial list of previously or presently banned movies by a dictatorship or authoritarian regime here: http://www.imdb.com/list/ls021706823/  Movie Suggestions Are Welcome!

Poll: http://www.imdb.com/poll/-i-ZmpWb824/
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Pretty Good Research
My vote: Fight club.
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Thanks, Russia's ban of the BAFTA Best British Film nominee, The Death of Stalin (2017) got me thinking about it. http://variety.com/2018/film/news/russia-bans-death-of-stalin-1202674438/ “The Death of Stalin” opens in U.S. theaters on March 9.
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I knew this has been done before, but it didn't have Wonder Woman http://www.imdb.com/poll/yw_GchQgelo/
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Thanks for the link. The scope of this poll suggestion is much narrower and more specific.That poll is about all banned films. This poll is about politically motivated censorship within dictatorships only. It is not about censorship for religious, moral, sexual, violence or cultural reasons, per se. Plus, the answer pool of films listed are much higher rated (30 current or former IMDb Top 250 movie titles), more widely seen and more star driven. While, there is some overlap, at this point, it is only seven movie titles (20%). The questions being asked are also unrelated.
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Possible introduction
These select movies are some of the most acclaimed films of all time. They include some thirty current or former IMDb Top 250 titles, loved universally by moviegoers and critics alike. Yet, these powerful movies are being subverted by political censorship or outright bans. The intended goal is "the systematic suppression of views that are contrary to those of the governments in power."

On March 12th, the World Day Against Cyber Censorship, learn more about movie censorship, cyber censorship and other censorship, as well as, protecting basic human rights @ https://www.amnesty.org.

Honorable Mention Movie Titles
with an Economist 0-5 Democracy Index Score
2012 (2009) North Korea
Banned for "depicting the year 2012, Kim Il Sung's 100th birthyear in a negative light."
The Dictator (2012) Tajikistan
Banned for "its subversiveness."
Zoolander (2001) Iran
Banned for "its perceived support of gay rights."
The Year of Living Dangerously (1982) Indonesia
Banned for "its criticism of Indonesia's Sukarno regime."(lifted 1999)
Missing (1982) Chile
Banned under the regime of Augusto Pinochet "for criticism of his regime and violent actions during his coup."
The Death of Stalin (2017) Russia
Banned "for being offensive and extremist."
Child 44 (2015) North Korea, Russia
Banned for "distortion of historical facts, peculiar treatment of events before, during and after the Great Patriotic War."
Cry Freedom (1987) South Africa
Banned under the apartheid regime for "being a biopic about anti-apartheid activist Steve Biko."
Hostage (2005)Azerbaijan
Banned for "presenting Armenians in a positive light."
Anna and the King (1999) Thailand
Banned with The King and I (1956) as both "could be construed as disrespectful towards the King of Thailand.
Brokedown Palace (1999) Thailand
Banned for "its negative portrayal the Thai judicial system."
Coming Home (1978) Argentina
Banned for its anti-war message." (lifted 1983)
American Sniper (2014) Iraq
Banned for "being an insult to the population."
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End (2007) China
Banned "for Chow Yun-fat's portrayal of Singaporean pirate Sao Feng as a negative and stereotypical portrayal." (edited version cutting his screen time in half to 10 minutes is allowed)
Waltz with Bashir (2008) Lebanon former IMDb Top 250 movie title
Banned for "its depiction of a violent time in Lebanon's history."
Raise the Red Lantern (1991) China former IMDb Top 250 movie title
Banned for "indeterminate reasons." (lifted 1994)
Farewell My Concubine (1993) China former IMDb Top 250 movie title
Banned for "its homosexual themes and negative portrayal of communism." (lifted 1994)
Persepolis (2007) Lebanon former IMDb Top 250 movie title
Banned for being "offensive to Iran and Islam." (Ban since rescinded)
Andrei Rublev  (1966) Soviet Union current IMDb Top 250 movie title
Banned in the Soviet Union for "its themes of artistic freedom, religion, political ambiguity, autodidacticism, and the making of art under a repressive regime"
Fargo (1996) Afghanistan current IMDb Top 250 movie title
Banned as part of a "prohibition on Western technology and art including all films" during the five-year reign of the Taliban government (1996-2001).
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American Sniper (2014) Iraq
Banned for "being an insult to the population."

American Sniper IS an insult to the Iraqi population. Nothing to do with "dictators hating" a good movie, nothing to do with some politically motivated censorship, it is an extremely offensive movie and not as universally loved by critics and moviegoers as some other inclusions. 
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A. It has a 72 Metascore From metacritic.com, a 7.3 rating from IMDb.com, a 72% fresh rating from rottentomatoes.com, so I think the "Movie You Love" moniker is fair. I also think it is fair to conclude that the Iraqi government did not share in its love and doesn't ban films it loves, so I think the "Dictators Hate" moniker is fair too.
B. American Sniper is not on the "official" poll suggestion list, only the "honorable mentions". I am not sure why you are questioning this, when it is not even an answer option. It is not the poll suggestion because it is not as strong an answer option.
C. The poll suggestion doesn't take sides, it just lists the stated reason for the banning with no judgment whtether it is right or wrong.
D. When the government gets involves and doesn't allow its own citizens to judge for themselves, it is politically motivated. Especially, when they are censoring for other  than religious, moral, sexual, violence reasons. It is interesting to note that Iraq doesn't ban other "offensive" films, just the ones about themselves or their government.
E. The possible introduction uses qualifiers, like "some" and "most". Most the movies listed on the IMDb Top 250 titles are about universally loved as your going to get. But, I agree nothing is absolute or 100%, but if any movies were, they would be the ones on this list.
F. I think the box office has a way of sorting things out for those films that no merit or are offensive. Those films would simply have a short theatrical run and fail, therefore eliminating the need to prohibit people from going to see them.
G. I am not defending American Sniper, just stating the facts. 1) American Sniper (2014) was banned in Iraq 2) the reason cited was "being an insult to the population." 3) Iraq is a borderline authoritarian regime according to the index
H.The question or poll also doesn't make value judgements about whether any of the movies are rightly or wrongly banned. It just states the facts and simply asks, Which select movie banned during a past or present authoritarian regime or dictatorship* is your favorite forbidden film?
I. The only conclusion drawn in the whole poll suggestion is in the title, Movies You Love, But Dictators Hate. It implies that the banned films are hated by the governments banning them, in contrast to the opposite voting sentiment of critics and moviegoers in aggregate.
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It implies that the banned films are hated by the governments banning them, in contrast to the opposite voting sentiment of critics and moviegoers in aggregate.

Well, I'm not sure the Iraqi moviegoer would share a positive sentiment either. And if the governments "hate" the film, neither Clint Eastwood or the late Chris Kyle seemed to be very fond of Arabs, so I guess it's one hatred against another, fair trade if you ask me.

Again not justifying censorship, only saying I'm not surprised that a government banned a film that is basically glorifying the very army that turned the country into a permanent "no man's land" and depict every member of its own population as potential killers, women and children included. Whether it's indicative of Kyle's own perception and Eastwood wanted to be faithful to the novel is beside the point, from the Iraqi perspective, the film is an intellectual agression.

As for the poll not taking sides or making judgments, I'm sure it's the initial intent but reminding that the countries are authoritarian or dictatorships is still a form of "comment", if Iraq is in such a miserable state, it's also because of actions taken by a coalition of "democracies", so in that particular context, the words "democracies" and "dictatorships" don't amount to much.

Yet they work for your poll, but I was just making a peripheral comment.
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Just to say I don't really want this to turn into a political debate, I'm more bringing nuances of thought than expressing an absolute disagreement, many things that would normally be condemnable, morally or ethically, can be rather understandable when you know all the contextual elements. That's all :)
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I don't disagree, I definitely see the movie as telling one-side of the story or being partisan. It is not alone in that regard and part of the appeal or hate depending on which side of the fence you are standing. Fahrenheit 9/11 is another good example of a divisive film that seems to be either loved or hated with no middle ground. Again, this is part of the point of the poll suggestion is the love-hate nature of some films it all depends on your perspective, and not taking sides of whether the film is good or bad.

I ran across this last month and thought I would pass it along. American Sniper (2014) definitely hits those same buttons, in addition to being banned in some countries, it was one of select few films every to get an A+ from North American movie audiences: Cinemascore A+ Rated Movie List. #66 The A plus list is an odd collection of about eighty movies from the past forty years that unique share through faith, race, inspiration, politics, action, comedy or animation the ability to connect emotionally with their "core" movie audiences. That said, I get the impression since it is based on the reviews of paying customers, the group doing the voting may already be a representative cross section of the general public. Other flag-waving films that scored an A+ were  Patriots Day (2016),  America: Imagine the World Without Her (2014),  Lone Survivor (2013) and Argo (2012).
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Urb,

Please consider changing the title of you list from:
Movies You Love, But Dictators Hate

To:
Movies You Love, but Dictators Hate

Reference:
https://capitalizemytitle.com/
Select Title Case and AP
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Done, Question AND Title updated.

Movies You Love, but Dictators Hate

Which of these select movies banned during a past or present authoritarian regime or dictatorship* is your favorite forbidden film?
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Urb,

Thanks for updating the title and question. I've updated the first post accordingly.
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Voted All Quiet on the Western Front. I think you can figure out the reasoning.

However, I can't figure out how ANYONE can like Fight Club. It's a movie about a nutter who tries, and fails, to overthrow his government with his idiot-friends. It's idiotic. I don't need to watch a movie where someone manifests another person in order to further his childish gains. Dumb.
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Wasn't "Deer Hunter" banned in Sweden because of the Russian roulette scenes?
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Michael Skaggs, it might have been, as it seems to fall within the time range and reason (all of them for banned for excessive graphic violence) of the few movies that were banned in Sweden. It was not listed on Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_films as being one of the Swedish banned films. But to qualify for the poll, it has to both been banned by a country and that country has to be a dictatorship. Sweden is about as far as you can get from a dictatorship, being one of the few full democracies in the world, according to https://infographics.economist.com/2017/DemocracyIndex/. Deer Hunter was banned elsewhere though for more obvious political reasons.

Movies You Love, but Dictators Hate
Which of these select movies banned during a past or present authoritarian regime or dictatorship* is your favorite forbidden film?



Sweden Banned Films (according to Wikipedia)
1969 I Am Curious (Yellow) Sweden Banned because of pornography, but after a court case it was allowed.
1974–2001 The Texas Chain Saw Massacre Banned due to high gore violence and cruelty.[100] Ban lifted in 2001.
1981 Mad Max Banned because of violent content.
1983 Hell of the Living Dead [further explanation needed][362] Released uncut on DVD in the mid-2000s.
1984–2005 Tenebre Banned because of high impact scary violence. Re-released in an uncut version in 2005.
1985 Return of the Living Dead Although its status remains unclear(?)[further explanation needed] the first two sequels have been released on DVD.
1997 Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Next Generation Banned because of high impact scary violence and cruelty. Sony Pictures later released the film on DVD
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