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I wish imdb would actually READ posts before removing them because I have a stalker troll who reports any posts I make and I have been unable to contribute to the forums as I'd like because this problem has been so predominate. I had to deal with this before to the point of making double and triple posts just so my posts would have a chance. When I came back I thought I was free of the stalker and the pathetic loser just popped right back up. I'd like my 2-3 posts restored because I worked hard to get info and other sources so I could post them and stupid imdb went and automated removed my posts which in NO way violated any rules!
Posted 7 years ago
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bluesmanSF, Champion
You might make a post or two, bookmark the page, then if it gets deleted, send a message with links to the helpdesk. IMDb.com/helpdesk/contact_form
They won't discuss it, but might block the user from submitting reports of abuse. They won't restore deleted posts.
That said, how sure are you the posts are not being rightly deleted? Re-posting deleted comments can make it easier and easier to get your posts deleted within the system. At some point your posting quota will rise or your account can become disabled.
Lastly, staff don't know which user account, nor which deleted posts you're talking about from what you posted. They might take a peek if you were to let them know your user name, or give a link to your profile or a deleted post.
They won't discuss it, but might block the user from submitting reports of abuse. They won't restore deleted posts.
That said, how sure are you the posts are not being rightly deleted? Re-posting deleted comments can make it easier and easier to get your posts deleted within the system. At some point your posting quota will rise or your account can become disabled.
Lastly, staff don't know which user account, nor which deleted posts you're talking about from what you posted. They might take a peek if you were to let them know your user name, or give a link to your profile or a deleted post.
Who do you contact though, Bluesman? What staffer will do this? Do have a link or name? Seriously, I'm still steamed about my situation.
I sent more info regarding this sitution to bluesmansf.
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He'll like that, but he isn't a member of staff so can't do anything about it.
I'm afraid staff probably won't restore posts, well I've never seen it happen yet - it just isn't a high priority for their time.
I'm afraid staff probably won't restore posts, well I've never seen it happen yet - it just isn't a high priority for their time.
Well if they could just send me the two posts it would be something I could save elsewhere. The threads are still there so they exist still. I'm not even sure that stuff is entirely gone unless they do a server sweep.
My post was restored the other day and when I made mention of it, the troll reported it again.
I had a real stalker and it took a lot of us almost 2 years to get rid of it. Apparently it's either wormed it's way back in or the one and only friend it had is reporting all my posts. Only two of my posts have been deleted and I find it pathetic that the admins can't take 20 seconds out of their day to read the post first. One of them actually said "I can't wait to see season 6, I bet the new cast will be great!" and that one never came back. The one that had a link to a magazine regarding an article and some information on the show, I could see them not reading that but that's the one they restored, when I thanked them, the troll reported it again and it was gone then next day and I once again had a warning!
How ignorant can IMDB administrators be? Don't they know that if someone is all of a sudden who's been a user for over 5 years and never had a complaint issued against them had a stalker banned is getting all their posts reported, isn't that a red flag for them? I've sent them numerous messages and now feel like I'm the one being harassed by IMDB because they know I'm not breaking any rules and they're not complying by their own rules. It clearly states they will punish anyone reporting false reports and yet they haven't and this has been going on for over 4 months now.
I've had it up to here ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ with all of them.
Is there any other course of action I can take since IMDB is unwilling to help or am I just at the mercy of their administration staff who are, for the lack of a better term, just uninterested in their members?
Thanks
I had a real stalker and it took a lot of us almost 2 years to get rid of it. Apparently it's either wormed it's way back in or the one and only friend it had is reporting all my posts. Only two of my posts have been deleted and I find it pathetic that the admins can't take 20 seconds out of their day to read the post first. One of them actually said "I can't wait to see season 6, I bet the new cast will be great!" and that one never came back. The one that had a link to a magazine regarding an article and some information on the show, I could see them not reading that but that's the one they restored, when I thanked them, the troll reported it again and it was gone then next day and I once again had a warning!
How ignorant can IMDB administrators be? Don't they know that if someone is all of a sudden who's been a user for over 5 years and never had a complaint issued against them had a stalker banned is getting all their posts reported, isn't that a red flag for them? I've sent them numerous messages and now feel like I'm the one being harassed by IMDB because they know I'm not breaking any rules and they're not complying by their own rules. It clearly states they will punish anyone reporting false reports and yet they haven't and this has been going on for over 4 months now.
I've had it up to here ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ with all of them.
Is there any other course of action I can take since IMDB is unwilling to help or am I just at the mercy of their administration staff who are, for the lack of a better term, just uninterested in their members?
Thanks
bluesmanSF, Champion
while they are interested in their members, they are not a chat or forum site. The site is Internet Movie Database. It has many features. Of all of them, the message board area is by far the lowest priority. Add to that there are many millions of boards and millions of users, you can't realistically expect them to take time to read reports of abuse regularly. The report system is mostly automated.
I am aware you're not going to like this but the most logical thing to do if you're having this many problems on the boards, is to avoid them and use the site's main features, but chat elsewhere.
I'd be willing to bet that if they took the trouble to restore a post (an extremely rare action) they'd have also removed the report privileges of the user who reported it (a very frequently done action). Now, that's not to say the person did not use another account to make the new report (or that it was simply another person-you don't know who did it, that's for certain, and you're just guessing)...
I am aware you're not going to like this but the most logical thing to do if you're having this many problems on the boards, is to avoid them and use the site's main features, but chat elsewhere.
I'd be willing to bet that if they took the trouble to restore a post (an extremely rare action) they'd have also removed the report privileges of the user who reported it (a very frequently done action). Now, that's not to say the person did not use another account to make the new report (or that it was simply another person-you don't know who did it, that's for certain, and you're just guessing)...
Well therein lies the problem. If they restored a post (and I told you that my post could have easily been restored!) then why did they turn around to remove it again and then get pissy on the victim? They obviously have communication issues here. They could put some effort into administrating the boards. My post should be restored because I worked to gather the info and made an effort to assure quality and information on the subject of the movie I was contributing to.
They really need to get the lead out about this sort of thing because, as you can see, it does happen more often than they think.
They really need to get the lead out about this sort of thing because, as you can see, it does happen more often than they think.
bluesmanSF, Champion
So, should they neglect the database (the actual purpose of the site) to, instead, moderate millions of message boards with kids using them as chat room (something they have no interest in doing)? Or should they hire new babysitters and charge you to use them to pay the salaries?
Rather than them "getting the lead out" over something they're clearly not interested in doing doesn't make much sense when you could simply find another chat room. There's got to be a billion of them out there, eh? Seriously, you've be stewing about this for many months. That can't be healthy.
Rather than them "getting the lead out" over something they're clearly not interested in doing doesn't make much sense when you could simply find another chat room. There's got to be a billion of them out there, eh? Seriously, you've be stewing about this for many months. That can't be healthy.
Not sure where you're getting the idea I've stewed about it for months. I commented about something that I know about. Why are you still stewing over anyone asking for some kind of solution to these problems? I never said for anyone to ignore their database fer christsake. They do need to get the lead out when it comes to these boards because there is a problem. I never used them as a "chat room" so please stop accusing me of that. You're just wrong in this case. I don't know what boards you're reading, but I can assure you I'm not on them commenting with chat speak. I invest time and information when I can. How does that equate to "chatting"?
I think you need to step back and take a look at how you're coming off to people who have legitimate complaints. You're being condescending when it isn't necessary. Indifferent when you don't have a vested interest yourself. So why even add to? It helps no one.
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bluesmanSF, Champion
You've posted to demand they restore a thread (that would've expired months ago) several dozen times over the course of 8 months. Many times here, many times on the defunct Help Board, many times to the Help Desk and to me in PM's.
I've yet to bring it up once.
Who is stewing?
To take up monitoring the millions of active boards they'd either need to do so and ignore the database, or hire new folks to do it. So, to say they need to get the lead out and babysit, instead of do their jobs, you're suggesting exactly what I said you did.
You need to step back and learn what "help" means. It doesn't simply mean you get your way. The world ain't like that, hon...
I've yet to bring it up once.
Who is stewing?
To take up monitoring the millions of active boards they'd either need to do so and ignore the database, or hire new folks to do it. So, to say they need to get the lead out and babysit, instead of do their jobs, you're suggesting exactly what I said you did.
You need to step back and learn what "help" means. It doesn't simply mean you get your way. The world ain't like that, hon...
What "demand" are you seeing here? I requested my posts restored or at least sent to me. A request is different than a demand. You have some kind of reading comprehension issue here.
I've yet to bring it up once.
Excuse me? You've been bringing it up everytime you reply here!
I asked you a question. There was a short convo back in March between me and you. I commented here, at your suggestion and I wrote the help desk AT YOUR suggestion. Now you wag your finger at me for following your suggestions? Odd. Why are you acting like a horse's butt to me anyway? What the hell did I do to deserve this crap? Nothing! I had every right to ask and point out the circumstances.
The thread could have went and expired but I wanted to save my posts for archive elsewhere. I only wanted to do that because of the work I put into it. How was I supposed to know (at the time) that the sleazy stalker was watching my account?
And yes they should get the lead out! No matter how you paint it, the fact that they're removing comments without reading them first is proof they aren't doing a very good job of monitoring the boards which is, in fact, part of their job.
I'd like to know where this "many times" is coming up since I've only ever replied to posts made here and have every right to do so since it is my thread. I wrote to the help desk ONCE. Not many times. So stop throwing in futher accusations because you're simply and utterly wrong. You have an issue and want to keep trying to throw crap at me. Why? If you take issue with my thread here, you could deal with it in a more healthy way and stop being so condescending and perhaps stop your neo promo. Which is how you're coming off. And you are wrong when you use the accusation that everyone uses the boards to "chat" on. That is simply not the case with me. You are also wrong on many other counts as well.
And if this is IMDb's way of offering "help" by sending you in to tell people off and say "hon, you can't get your way bla bla bla" and badger people for even speaking up then GetSatisfaction.com is one big joke! Back up, and learn that the world doesn't kowtow to some smartass who's got no respect for anyone.
I've yet to bring it up once.
Excuse me? You've been bringing it up everytime you reply here!
I asked you a question. There was a short convo back in March between me and you. I commented here, at your suggestion and I wrote the help desk AT YOUR suggestion. Now you wag your finger at me for following your suggestions? Odd. Why are you acting like a horse's butt to me anyway? What the hell did I do to deserve this crap? Nothing! I had every right to ask and point out the circumstances.
The thread could have went and expired but I wanted to save my posts for archive elsewhere. I only wanted to do that because of the work I put into it. How was I supposed to know (at the time) that the sleazy stalker was watching my account?
And yes they should get the lead out! No matter how you paint it, the fact that they're removing comments without reading them first is proof they aren't doing a very good job of monitoring the boards which is, in fact, part of their job.
I'd like to know where this "many times" is coming up since I've only ever replied to posts made here and have every right to do so since it is my thread. I wrote to the help desk ONCE. Not many times. So stop throwing in futher accusations because you're simply and utterly wrong. You have an issue and want to keep trying to throw crap at me. Why? If you take issue with my thread here, you could deal with it in a more healthy way and stop being so condescending and perhaps stop your neo promo. Which is how you're coming off. And you are wrong when you use the accusation that everyone uses the boards to "chat" on. That is simply not the case with me. You are also wrong on many other counts as well.
And if this is IMDb's way of offering "help" by sending you in to tell people off and say "hon, you can't get your way bla bla bla" and badger people for even speaking up then GetSatisfaction.com is one big joke! Back up, and learn that the world doesn't kowtow to some smartass who's got no respect for anyone.
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Who helped you with the restoration?
MollyBlue, the people replying here are not staff, so no, they didn't. This site is rather well known for not really being that helpful as staff here is like a few and far between.
Hi sorry, I just got the message regarding who helped me with the restoration. First and foremost I want to say that I NEVER meant to start anything over this so I am only here to reply to the question about who helped me. Thanks :)
I wrote the help desk, but in all fairness, I was indeed being truly stalked, This person had my real information. I don't know how they got it but they had it and they were posting my first name on the boards and my husband's name along with the town I lived in to tease me saying they were going to post the rest of my information. Then they were making up slanderous lies about my family including my children so it truly was a situation where I was being stalked and I believe that is why I was helped.
They restored my post, I thanked the moderator for doing so and either the person using a fake account (sock puppet) or their one and only friend who was upset that they were bounced, reported the post again and it was removed. It was a very friendly post about a magazine article regarding a show we were talking about.
For the record, I stopped going to that board. I thought the risk of someone coming back and harming my family over a ridiculous show just wasn't worth it. The bottom line is, people are crazy out there.....the moderators can only do so much. I just helped myself by stepping away, it wasn't worth the risk.
Good luck guys but remember, it's not worth fighting over, truly it's not :)
I wrote the help desk, but in all fairness, I was indeed being truly stalked, This person had my real information. I don't know how they got it but they had it and they were posting my first name on the boards and my husband's name along with the town I lived in to tease me saying they were going to post the rest of my information. Then they were making up slanderous lies about my family including my children so it truly was a situation where I was being stalked and I believe that is why I was helped.
They restored my post, I thanked the moderator for doing so and either the person using a fake account (sock puppet) or their one and only friend who was upset that they were bounced, reported the post again and it was removed. It was a very friendly post about a magazine article regarding a show we were talking about.
For the record, I stopped going to that board. I thought the risk of someone coming back and harming my family over a ridiculous show just wasn't worth it. The bottom line is, people are crazy out there.....the moderators can only do so much. I just helped myself by stepping away, it wasn't worth the risk.
Good luck guys but remember, it's not worth fighting over, truly it's not :)
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