Revenge or troll reviews

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I have had a bad review from a fellow actor who also supports remain. He has written a troll review on Amazon and using a different name on IMDB  yesterday wrote another and got someone else to mark the film down. Is this fair to be able to attack the person and not the film this way.

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Film makers pulling each other down? Here we have another troll His name is Trevelyan and he has reviewed just 3 films 2 of mine and one of Kate Madisons. Why would he hate my film then watch another? Why just my 2 and Kates Fairly obvious that he wants to nobble our films.
The Matt Preston files was taken down because of bad reviews like this. The Vampire King where he slates it and then Ren The girl with the mark where he gives it top marks.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/.../amz...n1.acco.../ref=cm_cr_dp_d_gw_tr...

THE VAMPIRE KING Oh god.... just let this film die.
18 April 2019
Format: Prime Video Appalling in pretty much every detail. Wooden acting, terrible camerawork, no idea of pacing or drama. Not even entertaining in it's terribleness.
THE MATT PRESTON FILES Appalling in every way.
28 March 2019
Format: Prime VideoVerified Purchase
It may be short, but find something better to do - like self harm or staring at a beige carpet.
REN THE GIRL WITH THE MARK
Incredibly well made - More please!
18 April 2019
Format: Prime Video
There needs to be more quality fantasy like this in the world, when will there be more episodes?!
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These people are not our friends and its time they were stopped from trolling our films and causing real damage.



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Nothing here violates IMDb policy.


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Hi Mark Morris,
If you think that it is a seroius problem and they violates IMDb policy, then please fill the report to the IMDb team.


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This IS The IMDb team. Right here. It's reported!
Users and Staff/Team ARE Here!
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Brilliant thanks Ed!
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Yes but what about the ones that are trolling with an agenda? I cant seem to report it to IMDB Just a link to here?
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I dislike Horror Films. Why? Because most are made rather poorly.
Interview with the Vampire is not made poorly. But it only gets a 7 in my book.
I have an agenda. A dislike of the Horror Genre as a whole.
So am I and my opinion to be blocked? Hmmm? NO!
Get over it. If you make poor films, you will get good and bad reviews. If you make good films, you will get good and bad reviews.
Live with it.
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I have nothing against bad reviews Just those trolling Thanks for your time Ed and your opinion.
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There are 3 reviews here that are proveable trolling.
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Its fine if people are genuine and really don't like the film . Just the agenda driven reviews are just trying to nobble the film
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69,267 conversations. Presumably about unfair bad reviews troll ect and they are all wrong and your right Lol.
You really have a huge problem. What is happening is anyone can tactically attack someone's film with Amazons permission. I wouldn't expect Amazon to have the resources to look into every complaint or want to but I do believe that something needs to be done Either stop reviews altogether unless it can be monitored or a few cases highlighted and shown intolerance to that sort of behaviour. Because otherwise its sending out the wrong message that trolling is allowed and reflects badly on Amazon and Imdb. Not only are these people are wrong you fail to see many spend large sums of money I myself spend thousands on Amazon.
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albstein The Matt Preston files and Cyborg invasion were direct to Amazon No festivals.
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This site has nothing to do with Amazon, you'll have to go there and contact them at https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/contact-us/
or use the report button under the reviews you mention.

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Thanks Jon I'll contact them soon!
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I was told by Amazon to come here. Doesn't hurt to try the chat link though.
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Talk all you want, but nothing is going to happen because of this.
What if I was to claim that all of your 10 votes were bogus. That all your homers voted it a 10 without ever seeing it, because you asked them to upvote your film. ?? A case can be made for that.
Your film is devoid of any 5, 6, 7, 8, or 9 votes.
If you throw out the 1 and 10 votes, which IMDb already considers suspect. That is part of IMDb's secret formula called the "Weighted Average", then whats left is the 2, 3, and four votes.
Any title with no votes between 5-9 would strike me as being a bad movie.
Occam's theory applies here. If it looks like a duck............etc..............!
So if you are ranked a 4.8, bad reviews are truthful, according to Occam Theory.


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Of course if you have an option to like your own film then you will use that. I think most would feel their own film is good before uploading it. You can very easily predict the trolls are going to try and get your film unwatched. You really seem to dislike indie film makers Have you ever made a film? Do you know how much work goes into one? Sitting in an edit chair from 8am to 12 midnight everyday for months on end. To give you something for free. Yes we are hoping for fame and fortune and to show what we can do. When the haters take all that down because they selfishly target your film Maybe a crew member r actor from another film trying to get rid of competition. I spent thousands on these films so people like you can tell me I deserve the haters for daring to object when trolls can be easily identified. Shame on you Ed. Also shame on you for pretending to be a mod when I first posted.
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This was his review of our film and if you check his film you will see the similarities of what people have posted there and what he did to ours,

Danny Reyntiens
Avoid at all cost
21 November 2019
Format: Prime VideoVerified Purchase

Oh my word. This goes beyond the Room. How can this be shown on Prime? Quality nor acting, nor production exist in this WTF excuse of a film.
I'm a massive fan of independent stuff but I have seen better quality in porn than this. Who ever gave this 5 stars aren't those embarrassed
to be associated with this diarrhoea whicis probably the director who is playing the lead and dubbed most of his lines

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You have not read what I do here. Some of it is putting up with people that do not want to hear the truth. Most of what I do is Polls. A large percentage is helping people with adding credits and answering a lot of how to do things.
As usual when I speak the truth to an individual such as yourself, they tend to be offended by that truth. As the Colonel says in the movie.........."You can't handle the truth."
You are proving that statement here.
You have just brought up a review left on Amazon now. No one here can deal with that issue. Yet you brought it up.
Advice.
Take the criticism given. Stop complaining here that "Someone" ought to do something about it. If you want lies and personal ego stroking then you'll never get that in a public forum. This ain't utopia. Expecting others to silence others on your behalf is shall we say is a fools request.
Please, you are convicing no one here.
Go complain to Amazon about that review you just posted. That I believe you might have a case for removal.
This will be my last reply. Not because I have nothing to say. But because what I would like to say is not allowed here.
Have a great day.
Good luck to you.
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Ed It isn't about me Its about all those people kids or older people who worked hard for free to make something extraordinary. Its then about showing that work and waiting and hoping for those dreams Only to find troll reviews from people trying to take down the competition. Not all reviews but those that are should be stopped. That's only fair. And by the way you consistently exaggerate and ignore my points in order to make me a bad guy. Its not me seeking attention here I just have a legitimate point that is reasonable and fair. By the way you don't go to the cinema and see troll polls under mainstream films Its only social media where they can get away with this and it doesn't need to be this way.
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Trolling and lessons learned. When a cast and crew have worked hard and looking forward to seeing their films shown publically its often sad to see bad reviews full of vitriol hatred and anger. You or I would give a program 5 minutes and switch channels if we didnt like it. We wouldnt sit all the way through the film and then write an awful review full of the vitriol we often see. Its now become clear that many of these reviews are from within our own ranks. Usually as a way... to take down the competition or jealousy. So why dont I just ignore it? Because they DO succeed in getting films taken down of deterring others from watching it. From making cast and crew question and doubt as well as distributers who see this too. Exactly the result the haters want while making sure we have two hands firmly tied behind our backs. Well haters The games up we know who you are and why you do it and change is on the way.
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So say you.
If we did as you asked, IMDb would be guilty of Censorship. What if IMDb refused to list your Movie because it did not meet some arbitrary standard set by say someone that thought that only Wes Craven Horror films should be listed and that anyone else that dare make a Horror movie was a Troll Filmmaker.
You DO NOT get to decide what constitutes a troll review.
IMDb Does Not get to do the same either.
Now Please stop this incessant complaining about free speech.
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HI Mark,

Thank you for your feedback about the user reviews feature on IMDb.

IMDb provides the User Reviews feature as a forum where users can freely express their opinions about films. The comments found on that page are posted by our users and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of IMDb or our staff. We only require that users follow our guidelines for acceptable content, listed at:

https://help.imdb.com/article/contribution/contribution-information/user-review-...

Other than that, we do not impose any special editorial guidance over them.

As long as the comments follow our content guidelines, we will not edit or remove them. We provide an optional spell-checking feature to help users avoid most common typographical mistakes, but we don't discriminate based on the style or tone of the reviews.

User comments are periodically rotated. To learn how the user comment displayed on the main page for a title is chosen, please see this page:

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If you have any further issues, please don't hesitate to let us know.

As mentioned above if there are reviews on Amazon we are unable to access or help you with these.
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Thank you Jaime  I have zero objection to legitimate reviews None at all But the TRUTH is many of these vitriolic posts come from within our own ranks Fellow film makers Blue on blue. And its to get your film removed or unwatched as revenge for not agreeing with them or some other childish tantrum. I think that is wrong. And if I can do something about it to make things fair then I wont stand here and be a blind victim. If a disgruntled fellow film maker succeeds in taking your film down at some point in the future I will stand with you too. The rules need to be updated on Amazon and IMDBs part I think that its only fair that you reflect on this Vitriol Hatred and Anger have no place in the professional world. You wouldn't see this on any media outlets other than social media. So again I ask to put fair play back into the equation. Keep bad reviews but take down the trolls.


Best Mark
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Jaime Here is some action you can take right now even if you don't care these are not proper reviews but takedowns from fellow film makers revenge trolling Lots like this too.
Your rules
Profanity, obscenities, or spiteful remarks in either the body or header of your review



Danny Reyntiens
Avoid at all cost
21 November 2019
Format: Prime VideoVerified Purchase

Oh my word. This goes beyond the Room. How can this be shown on Prime? Quality nor acting, nor production exist in this WTF excuse of a film.
I'm a massive fan of independent stuff but I have seen better quality in porn than this. Who ever gave this 5 stars aren't those embarrassed
to be associated with this diarrhoea whicis probably the director who is playing the lead and dubbed most of his lines

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This review is nothing to do with this site I'm afraid. Amazon may own IMDB but IMDB is its own company with its own staff that have no say in what goes on at Amazon's website nor do IMDB's rules apply there.
You'll have to continue this with Amazon staff over on their site.
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Thanks John but Amazon have directed me here, I'll wait until an IMDB Mod gives me further direction.
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Amazon problem. They incorrectly referred you here on that one. I told you once you had a claim with Amazon on that. Now go there and report it. IMDb can do nothing.
Jon gave you the correct advice. Jaime told you the same things I already have. You are not going to sway anyone to change this decision. Please stop replying on other posts that are old also. It is SPAMMING. Also, your replies from this point on are not being read by staff (Jaime). It has been officially closed. (Answered) Please see above.

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but Amazon have directed me here, I'll wait until an IMDB Mod gives me further direction.
You'll be waiting till the 12th of never!