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This conversation has been merged. Please reference the main conversation: Suggested Names no longer have alternate names

This is still a serious ongoing problem...

Here's my latest experience, a few minutes ago, when I was trying to add some Catherine Rose as a foley artist to the Sound department of Underworld: Blood Wars (2016):

These are the names offered by the suggestions system:

The five exact matches are displayed first (understandable), despite none of them has "Sound" as their primary job. Then, 15 names appear,of which only 2 are known by their sound work... Since primary jobs aren't necessarily exclusive I even checked all the five exact matches to verify they never worked in the Sound field. As you can see, I was about to create a sixth instance of "Catherine Rose", but I thought it weird that she was the only person credited in that department who didn't have a page, so fortunately I was cautious enough to perform a collaborations search (via Google) and Katherine Rose (I) quickly shows up:

Note that she's a person with a vast experience in the Sound department (Emmy winner, STARmeter around 200k). Also, that's the only department where she has credits. And also, she's been credited as "Catherine Rose" in over 40% of her titles (35 of 81). Moreover, if you type "Catherine Rose" in the standard search bar, you'll get Katherine Rose (I) as the second suggested result.

So, how is it possible that she doesn't appear as one of the 20 suggestions of a tool that is supposed to help in the contribution process?

Again, the system seems to prioritize similarities in spelling (with a very narrow detection range of paronyms, by the way) over jobs, which actually wouldn't be a bad decision if:
a) NAKAs were included in the search algorithm (if they're already, exact NAKA matches are not currently being pushed up accordingly...).
b) Such NAKAs were shown under the primary name suggestion (as it was before the changes; I refuse to open 20 name pages every time the on-screen name doesn't match the primary name, but the NAKA).
c) Management of paronyms were improved (Catherine/Katherine).

This time I was lucky and didn't create an unneeded new name page, but I wouldn't like to imagine how many times I couldn't avoid so...


Note: This conversation was created from a reply on: Search: Add name aka search function.
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I don't think you are posting this in the best place. This is an idea post and it's about the site search, not specifically about the update form.

Is it the same problem reported here in a problem post which is still labelled "in progress"?
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Hi, Peter:

Thank you, you're absolutely right. I missed that thread (I had seen this one, but I believed that was a temporary glitch [which was also bypassable by checking "This is the first credit..."]). Ron's related idea was posted incidentally at the time I noticed the issue, so I took advantage of it to show some examples of the problem.

(may please some administrator with privileges move my unintentionally intrusive posts in this thread to the other one?)

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