Separate background actors/extras from regular cast on movies

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I find the addition of extras/background actors to IMDb increasingly distracting. During the production phase most of them do not even add an "uncredited" but try to sneak in as normal cast member, even though they know they will not get a credit - and while doing so totally clutter up the cast list, making it incredibly hard to figure out who is actually ~in~ the movie.

And when the cast list gets checked at release time, they get demoted to "uncredited" only but are still listed. This totally dilutes the "uncredited" attribution in my opinion, and still clutters up the cast listing with people who have about the same value as the set deco (and nobody lists the furniture on IMDb, right?). Not to talk about the fact, that there is not even any verification if that person a) has even worked as an extra on the movie and b) is shown (versus got cut during editing).

I'm absolutely certain, that there are several "actors" on IMDb whose filmography is entirely fictional. People who add themselves during production and then get either an "uncredited" credit in the end, or sometimes even a real credit (in cases where movies get released without any IMDb or producers staff checking cast/crew lists against actual credits like this happens often with small indies). I know I've seen a few in the past which I was sure were entirely fake, and I have not even been looking for them.

My request: please create a separate section or page for background/extras, so they don't get mixed up with real cast at least; I mean, right from the beginning so there is never any question if they are speaking cast or extras. It should also reduce the temptation to add fake credits and help IMDb staff to identify actors who try to cheat with their credits when those people add themselves to regular cast but repeatedly don't show up in the actual movie credits. It might even help with unknown/little known actors who are trying to boost their filmography that way in order to manipulate their starmeter. Or, update your policies to make clear that extras are not allowed be added and remove them during a credits update entirely (instead of just updating their listing to "uncredited" which happens without any verification if that person actually was in the movie). I would prefer the latter but if not possible I think it would be very helpful for everyone to put them at least separate from the cast to avoid confusion.

Thanks.
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Peter, Champion

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I think your criticisms are well stated and your suggestion interesting. I want to mention that extras have also in the past been accepted in the Other Crew section. I recently had problems adding extra credits in that section and asked about it at the Contributors Help board, and a staff member said they would have a discussion about their policies. I posted a link there to your post here.
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Thanks for that. Perhaps I should check out the Contributors Help board as well.
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What they really need to do at once is enforce the current regulations. One of these states that the Character Name should identify the particular artist. Names like 'Extra' are specifically excluded, but still show up on the pages.

Characters like 'Man in Bar' is hardly helpful if the scene involves a crowded bar, or if the film has four or five bar scenes with different actors in each one.

If IMDb made an explicit policy that Contributors should submit deletes for (uncredited) cast credits that cannot be easily identified I think the problem would be significantly reduced.
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I think strictly enforcing the existing policies would be a good way too. I just would love for IMDb do something because it is becoming a real mess imo. Most extras give themselves a descriptive credit and some even a character name but they are still extras without any credit and I just don't think this is what the 'uncredited' attribute is intended for.

My suggestion of moving them into a separate section was mostly an idea how to deal with them if you can't eliminate them (which would be better).