Someone reverted recent correction of original language for "Ya, Ty, Vin, Vona" (2019): it should say "Russian"

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This correction was already fixed about a week ago thanks to this thread https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/imdb-staff-declined-a-couple-of-my-updates-regarding-russian... and and this thread https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/imdb-staff-declined-a-couple-of-my-updates-regarding-russian... , and the help from Will and Michelle. However the fixed version (with original audio displayed correctly as "Russian") only stayed on IMDb for a couple of days - I just noticed that someone reverted this correction yesterday and it again incorrectly displays movie language as "Ukrainian".

Ya, Ty, Vin, Vona (2018)  https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9037222/ had correct language in Russian, and I have provided links that verify this during my submissions for this title:
* There exist a dubbed into Ukranian version, but that's just dubbing, not
the original audio.
* The original audio is in Russian: 1) see the trailer with original audio track in Russian: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY9-D0CL0v4 . 2) Also the movie in its entirety with original russian audio recently leaked, you can watch it for instance here https://video.zhykrecords.biz/comedy/2974-ya-ty-on-ona-ya-ti-vn-vona-2018.html

Could you please help figure out who changed film's langauge back to the
incorrect value "Russian"? Was it a film representative? Is there a way to prevent this from happening in the future (e.g., leave a note for IMDb staff saying that the correct original language for this movie is "Russian").

FYI, my submission #190505-201003-263000 was approved sometime after May 5, 2019, so whoever reverted it back to an incorrect value must have done so within the last couple of days.

Thank you!





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piznajko

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motley_moth

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The language of a film is the language used, both spoken and written, when it was released in the country of origin. The country of origin of this film is Ukraine. Although this was filmed in Russian, it was released in Ukraine dubbed in Ukrainian. Note that the fact that the country of origin is Ukraine is also the reason the primary title in the IMDb is Ukrainian, as are all the character names, and the 'as' attributes of the cast and crew. The example often given to demonstrate how the release in the country of origin determines the language is the classic Clint Eastwood film Il buono, il brutto, il cattivo. Although it was filmed in English, the country of origin was Italy. Hence the language of the film is Italian, and the primary title in the IMDb is in Italian. The film, of course, is better known under its English title "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly".
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Hi motley_moth, there's a logical fallacy in what you just said: the country of origin has nothing to do with what langage was used in the movie. Plain and simple the language used in the movie is something independent of the country of origin and depends solely on what was the language chosen by the production company.

In case of "Ya, Ty, Vin, Vona" (2018)  https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9037222/ the film was shot in Russian and the Russian language is indeed the oiginal audio track for this movie. I have shown above indisputable proof that the original language of the film was Russian (I have provided the link to the full film, where all charecters speak originally in Russian).

Lastly, it doesn't matter that the film aslo has a version dubbed in Ukrainian - Hollywood movies get dubbed all the time, that doesn't mean anything, since the original language for Hollywood movies is still English.

p.s. Also you're comapring "apples to oranges": from IMDB: The three principal actors are the only ones who speak actual English in the film: Clint Eastwood, Lee Van Cleef, Eli Wallach, with the exceptions of Al Mulock (the one-armed man) and John Bartha (the sheriff). Everyone else in the film is really speaking their native language, mostly Italian and Spanish, and was later dubbed into English. In other words: actors spoke English, Italian and Spanish on set (and that's precisely the reason why IMDb credits for this film list all 3 language on its credits: English, Italian and Spanish. This however, is not true of "Ya, Ty, Vin, Vona" (2018): all actors spoke Russian on set (there were no actors who spoke Ukrainian on set).
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Hi both,

piznajko is correct, the country of origin should have no impact on the language spoken in the original release. Please see the guide for more details: https://help.imdb.com/article/contribution/titles/languages/GSCRBZYEH5NX5SXL?ref_=helpsrall#

As such I've reverted this title to Russian.

Regards,
Will