Submissions not approved or approved only in part

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I have been updating films made by Merton Park Productions, based on novels/ stories by Edgar Wallace. Theses have been broadcast on Australian television, on a weekly basis.

The films were second features shown as part of a double bill on the ABC cinema circuit in the UK. They were later sold to American TV, packaged as The Edgar Wallace Mystery Theatre (1960) (TEWMT).  As such, IMDB should have two entries for each film – as a stand-alone entity and as an episode of TEWMT.

I have been submitting updates since June 13th, based on the broadcasts of episodes of TEWMT. I have two questions about my submissions.

 

1. Why are some submissions for new titles not yet approved?

Some of the broadcasts have only one entry on IMDB (as part of TEWMT). I have submitted new entries for these films as stand-alone entities.

Three have been accepted - Marriage of Convenience (1960), The Man Who Was Nobody (1960), and Partners in Crime (1961)

Two have not:

New Title - The Verdict
(1964)
Ref No.: 170618-090947-035000
New Title - Face of a
Stranger (1964)
Ref No.: 170618-092635-727000 


2. Why are some of my other submissions not yet accepted or accepted only in part?

Cast changes form the majority of my submissions, either modification of the cast order or the character name. Sixteen submissions have been accepted in full, whereas another nineteen are not yet approved in full.

Observation: if I correct a character name, often the order number is removed and the cast member drops to the end of the list.

General details are listed below, specifics can be provided if needed.


The Partner (1963)

Ref No.: 170615-135935-308000

18 edits made to cast

One change still unimplemented


"The Edgar Wallace Mystery Theatre" (1960) {Who Was Maddox? (#5.7)}

Ref No.: 170616-021236-842000

Two character name changes made, neither implemented

 

"The Edgar Wallace Mystery Theatre" (1960) {Accidental Death (#5.2)}

Ref No.: 170616-024241-366000

One character name change made, not implemented

 

Accidental Death (1963)

Ref No.: 170616-024301-212000

All cast members (8) given order number, two to still be implemented (possibly due to correction of character names)

 

"The Edgar Wallace Mystery Theatre" (1960) {Change Partners (#6.2)}

Ref No.: 170616-092157-069000

Two character name changes still to be implemented; one order change still to be implemented (possibly due to correction of character name)

 

Change Partners (1965)

Ref No.: 170616-092208-295000

All cast members given order number, one to still be implemented (possibly due to correction of character name)

 

The Main Chance (1964)

Ref No.: 170616-093517-174000

None of the four corrections submitted have been implemented.

The three additions to the cast members have been implemented.

 

"The Edgar Wallace Mystery Theatre" (1960) {The Main Chance (#5.11)}

Ref No.: 170616-093555-065000

None of the six corrections submitted have been implemented.

The three additions to the cast members have been implemented but do not have an order number associated with them, even though one was submitted.

 

"The Edgar Wallace Mystery Theatre" (1960) {The Clue of the Twisted Candle (#1.1)}

Ref No.: 170616-122752-146000

None of the cast corrections submitted have been implemented

 

Clue of the Twisted Candle (1960)

Ref No.: 170616-122805-048000

Eight of the 17 submitted corrections have not been implemented.

 

Act of Murder (1964)

Ref No.: 170618-125300-434000

Two cast corrections were submitted, none of which have been implemented.

 

"The Edgar Wallace Mystery Theatre" (1960) {Act of Murder (#5.8)}

Ref No.: 170618-125448-984000

Four cast corrections were submitted, none of which have been implemented.

 

Never Mention Murder (1965)

Ref No.: 170618-125839-982000

Three cast corrections were submitted, none of which have been implemented.

 

Clue of the New Pin (1961)

Ref No.: 170625-104052-941000

Sixteen cast corrections were submitted, four of which have not been implemented.

 

"The Edgar Wallace Mystery Theatre" (1960) {Clue of the New Pin (#1.5)}

Ref No.: 170625-104115-773000

Two cast corrections were submitted, neither of which has been implemented.

 

"The Edgar Wallace Mystery Theatre" (1960) {The Man at the Carlton Tower (#2.2)}

Ref No.: 170710-131111-122000

One cast correction was submitted, which has not been implemented.

 

"The Edgar Wallace Mystery Theatre" (1960) {The Man Who Was Nobody (#1.2)}

Ref No.: 170714-101646-117000

Ten cast corrections were submitted, none of which have been implemented.

 

Clue of the Silver Key (1961)l

Ref No.: 170717-033320-316000

Eleven cast corrections were submitted, two of which have not been implemented.

 

"The Edgar Wallace Mystery Theatre" (1960) {The Clue of the Silver Key (#2.3)}

Ref No.: 170717-033329-263000

Five cast corrections were submitted, two of which have not been implemented.

Four cast additions were submitted, none of which have been implemented.

 

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Hi Graham -

First, regarding the two titles you referenced ("The Verdict (1964)" and "Face of a Stranger (1964)") both these title submissions were not accepted due to a lack of supporting evidence.
Specifically, there was not enough evidence with your newtitle contribution for us to approve it for publication.  Therefore, to help us verify the existence of these title you will needto resubmit them with additional information and provide one of thefollowing:  1) In the "Miscellaneous Link" section of the newtitle submission form, add links to third party sites detailing the production.

 2) In the "Explanation for missing information"box at the top of the new title contribution form, add additional informationdetailing your case for your title to be listed on IMDb.

(Note that you don't have to re-enter all the data -- you can easilyupdate your previous title submissions by going back to your title submission inyour update history here  by clicking on the corresponding update reference numbers.

 Second, regarding the list of cast submissions you referenced that have not been approved, this means that our staff were unable to verify those credits on those episodes/titles and we will need further evidence to verify them.  If you are able to go through the list and provide a screen grab to evidence for each of the credits you referenced, please post them here and our staff can take a look.
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Thanks, Meredith.


A.
>>> Specifically, there was not enough evidence with your newtitle contribution for us to approve it for publication.<<<

I understand that. However, I am puzzled by the inconsistency that accepts three titles for inclusion - Marriage of Convenience (1960), The Man Who Was Nobody (1960), and Partners in Crime (1961) - but not the other two when the material I submitted was basically the same.

I wonder whether it had anything to do with which IMDB editor checked them, as the two that were rejected were submitted on the same day (June 18th), and the three that were accepted were submitted on a different day (June 22nd).

Rejected
Ref No: 170618-090947-035000 
Ref No: 170618-092635-727000 

Accepted
Ref No: 170622-115810-933000  
Ref No: 170622-122137-108000 
Ref No: 170622-130724-176000 

For comparison, here are the details of an accepted and a rejected submission. I cannot find any significant differences between them.

Ref No:  170622-115810-933000  
Accepted

Marriage of Convenience (1960)
  • New Title - Add
    • Plain Title: Marriage of Convenience
      Type: film
      Sub-Type: feature
      Status: released
      Year: 1960
      Source: ...none of the above
      Required data not supplied: I do not know any more details.

  • Release Dates - Add
    • Country: UK
      Date: 1960

  • Country of Origin - Add
    • UK

  • Languages - Add
    • English

  • Color / Black & White - Add
    • Black And White

  • Genres - Add
    • Drama

    • Mystery

  • Directors - Add
    • Name: Donner, Clive

  • Distributors - Add
    • Company: Anglo-Amalgamated Film Distributors [gb]
      Attribute: (1960) (UK) (theatrical)

  • Production Companies - Add
    • Company: Merton Park Studios [gb]

  • Cast - Add
    • Name: Corbett, Harry H.
      Character: Inspector Bruce
      Order: 1

    • Name: Cairney, John
      Character: Larry
      Order: 2

    • Name: Van Eyssen, John
      Character: John Mandle
      Order: 3

    • Name: Daniel, Jennifer (I)
      Character: Barbara Blair
      Attribute: (as Jennifer Daniels)
      Order: 4

    • Name: Redmond, Moira
      Character: Tina
      Order: 5

    • Name: Waters, Russell (I)
      Character: Sam Spencer
      Order: 6

    • Name: Reid, Trevor (I)
      Character: Superintendent Carver
      Order: 7

    • Name: Goorney, Howard
      Character: Onion Seller
      Order: 8

    • Name: Archdale, Alexander
      Character: Governor
      Order: 9

    • Name: Denton, Geoffrey
      Character: Uniformed Inspector
      Order: 10

    • Name: Ludlow, Patrick (I)
      Character: Registrar
      Order: 11

    • Name: MacLean, Barry
      Character: First Warder
      Order: 12

    • Name: Beale, Basil
      Character: Second Warder
      Order: 13

    • Name: Scott, Alex (I)
      Character: Vic Ellis
      Attribute: (as Alexander Scott)
      Order: 14

    • Name: Burke, Patricia (I)
      Character: Woman in the Apartment
      Order: 15

    • Name: Shepherd, Pauline
      Character: Evie Martin
      Order: 16

    • Name: Williams, Leila
      Character: Secretary
      Order: 17

    • Name: Burns, Duncan (II)
      Character: Garage Apprentice
      Order: 18

    • Name: Maskell, Trevor
      Character: Sergeant Collins
      Attribute: (uncredited)
      Order: 19

  • Writers - Add
    • Name: Banks Stewart, Robert
      Attribute: (screenplay) (as Robert Stewart)

    • Name: Wallace, Edgar
      Attribute: (from a story by)

  • Producers - Add
    • Name: Greenwood, Jack (I)
      Occupation: producer

    • Name: O'Connolly, Jim
      Occupation: associate producer

  • Composers - Add
    • Name: Chagrin, Francis
      Attribute: (music by)

  • Cinematographers - Add
    • Name: Rhodes, Brian (I)
      Attribute: (director of photography)

  • Editors - Add
    • Name: Gribble, Bernard

  • Running Times - Add
    • Time: 58

  • Filming Locations - Add
    • Merton Park Studios, Merton, London, England, UK

 

Ref No:   170618-090947-035000   
Rejected

Contribution Details
  • The Verdict (1964)
    • New Title - Add
      • Plain Title: The Verdict
        Type: film
        Sub-Type: feature
        Status: released
        Year: 1964
        Source: ...none of the above
        Required data not supplied: I do not know the actual date of release.

    • Release Dates - Add
      • Country: UK
        Date: 1964

    • Country of Origin - Add
      • UK

    • Languages - Add
      • English

    • Color / Black & White - Add
      • Black And White

    • Genres - Add
      • Drama

      • Mystery

    • Directors - Add
      • Name: Eady, David

    • Distributors - Add
      • Company: Anglo-Amalgamated Film Distributors [gb]
        Attribute: (1964) (UK) (theatrical)

    • Cast - Add
      • Name: Linder, Cec
        Character: Joe Armstrong
        Order: 1

      • Name: Marshall, Zena
        Character: Carola
        Order: 2

      • Name: Davenport, Nigel
        Character: Larry Mason
        Order: 3

      • Name: Stassino, Paul
        Character: Danny Thorne
        Order: 4

      • Name: Francis, Derek (I)
        Character: Supt. Brett
        Order: 5

      • Name: Bryans, John (I)
        Character: Prendergast
        Order: 6

      • Name: Partridge, Derek (I)
        Character: Peter
        Order: 7

      • Name: Glyn-Jones, John
        Character: Harry
        Attribute: (as Glyn Jones)
        Order: 8

      • Name: Cargill, David (I)
        Character: Johnny
        Order: 9

      • Name: Aylward, Derek
        Character: Phillip-Greene
        Order: 10

      • Name: Dysart, William
        Character: Det. Sgt. Good
        Order: 11

      • Name: Moore, John (III)
        Character: House Detective
        Order: 12

      • Name: Benda, Kenneth
        Character: Lord Chief Justice
        Order: 13

      • Name: Raynor, William (II)
        Character: Clerk of the Court
        Order: 14

      • Name: Holmes, Denis
        Character: Mr. Matthews
        Order: 15

      • Name: Stevens, Dorinda
        Character: Molly
        Order: 16

      • Name: Rose, Phyllis
        Character: Woman in night club
        Order: 17

      • Name: Bond, Sidonie
        Character: Reporter
        Order: 18

      • Name: Scott, John Murray
        Character: Reporter
        Order: 19

      • Name: Thomas, Peter (II)
        Character: Reporter
        Order: 20

      • Name: Warren, Allan (I)
        Character: Page Boy
        Order: 21

    • Writers - Add
      • Name: La Bern, Arthur
        Attribute: (writer)

      • Name: Wallace, Edgar
        Attribute: (novel)

    • Producers - Add
      • Name: Greenwood, Jack (I)
        Occupation: producer

    • Cinematographers - Add
      • Name: Wilson, James (I)

    • Running Times - Add
      • Time: 59

    • Plot Summaries - Add
      • Text: Joe Armstrong, a big-time racketeer, is deported back to Great Britain from America to find himself facing a murder rap for a killing he had committed twenty years before.



B.
>>>1) In the "Miscellaneous Link" section of the new title submission form, add links to third party sites detailing the production.<<<


Would it be enough to show that an equivalent title exists on IMDB as part of "The Edgar Wallace Mystery Theatre"?



Thanks for your assistance.


Graham 
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HI Graham -

Thanks for posting the submissions for comparison, I will alert our title editors who will take a look.

In the meantime, please do re-submit the titles with as much additional information as you can to help verify it's existence; you can include a comment that equivalent titles are listed, however, online links referencing the title will be more helpful.