Live Poll: Firsts of Cinema in the 2010s

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This past decade stood on the shoulders of the giants of cinema and was, therefore, able to reach new heights, some probably unimaginable before 2010. Below are some of the movies that embodied some of the most noteworthy new heights: which one do think reached the farthest?

List: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls097303737/
Poll: https://www.imdb.com/poll/ZO2ZqCbpK0c/

(Like always, suggestions welcome and appreciated.)
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Posted 9 months ago

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'Hidden Figures' was great!
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Yes, but how about "Color Purple"? Granted it has a male lead too but that doesn't take anything from the film... much more he was the antagonist and the three lead-women were all Oscar-nominated (unlike HF)
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Hmm... wasn't Supergirl (1984) the first major female-led superhero movie? It had a budget of $35m, which is $87m in 2019 money. There's also Catwoman (2004) - in that film, she is a superhero, not a villain - which had a budget of $100m ($135m in today's money).
Of course, both of those films bombed hard, so I guess Wonder Woman is the first successful major female-led superhero movie?
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Thank you for the info: I know close to nothing about superhero movies. Yes, I guess the first successful one -- I knew there was something, lol.  Seriously, I was going to research it better but it's 6 am and I haven't slept more than two hours and I wanted to get something down to remind me of the direction. Ah, I remember another thing: it not only starred a woman but it was directed by a woman (although not quite f-rated). Thanks, again! That was a big help. 
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My definition is from Lexico which is powered by Oxford https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/live_action which
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Comic book movie experts: if you read the text for the three superhero movies and 'Joker,' do you have any feedback? I did a good amount of research and got some information from others on this thread (thank you, Mihailo) but I'd love another fact-check for any of these four films. Thank you!
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I'm a bit confused about the Black Panther entry. You wrote that it's ''The first superhero film in which all superheroes are black''. But in that film, there is only one superhero - Black Panther. There are other black heroes in the film, allies of Black Panther, who are prolific fighters (Okoye, M'Baku, Nakia and Shuri - via her technology), and therefore, could somehow be consider superheroic. However, the character Everet Ross is also a heroic combatant, ally of Black Panther, but he is played by the very much white Martin Freeman.
So, by that logic, this film either has one superhero (Black Panther) or six (5 black, 1 white).

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I thought I read that somewhere but I don't remember the source or even if I read it at all. Anyway, I changed the description. Thank you!
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Under Lady Bird, I think it should say "triple F-rated", not just "F-rated".
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Thanks for catching that, Peter. 
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Ruby, your Black Panther entry is still only half-correct:
The first superhero film to be led by a person of color.
There were black superhero films before it, the most successful being Blade, starring Wesley Snipes, a full 20 years before Black Panther! In fact, it went on to become a trilogy. And I don't know if an average movie-watcher knows this, but Blade is a Marvel Comics superhero. Yes, Marvel actually made a film with a leading black man before they would make X-Men, Avengers and Fantastic Four films. That was quite progressive back in the day, even though Blade is often forgotten in that regard.
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Hmm, I will have to revise it again. Thanks very much. :)
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How are Elle, The Florida Project and  Get Out the first in a category? You don't explain it on the list.
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I just didn't get to those yet, hence the "Under Construction" note, although Elle and Florida Project may not stay depending on what I find out when I fact-check them. Actually, that applies to 'Get Out' too and, of course, any of the options. I'm not in any hurry. It's only mid November. 
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I also didn't write the description for 'Tree of Life' because that first is more nuanced so will take more time. I'm still not sure how I'm going to approach that one. Aspects of 'The Florida Project' firsts are also pretty nuanced but I may only mention the clear-cut one if it is as unusual as I think it is.
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How can "live-action" be CGI by definition? It is impossible.

Definition: live ac·tion/ˌlīv ˈakSH(ə)n/

noun
noun: live action


  1. (in filmmaking) action involving real people or animals, as contrasted with animation or computer-generated effects.
    "a live-action version of the cartoon"








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What's the source of that definition? I'm not questioning you at all but what I do, if anything, depends on the reliability of the source and its authority. Tomorrow I will try to get to the unexpurgated Oxford but it's snowing here so I'm not sure if I'll be able to. I realized that I have "live-action" in quotes but perhaps it needs something more. My students would tell you that there are precious few things as important to me than precision, lol, so I'll think on this.

I try not to let my biases into polls like this but that's not a risk here: I have no skin in this game, as in film. I had no interest in seeing this film, didn't in fact see it, and I'm not a big Disney fan. My students would be thrilled at this chance to castigate me for not keeping a record of my sources; I have no simple way to test my source. 
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In RubyFruit's list, the term ''live action'' is in quotation marks.
That's the point of the entry - it is animated, but aims to be live-action, because of its photo-realistic CGI.

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Still, This is a marketing thing that Disney did to sell the movie.
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That doesn't necessarily mean that it's not true, though. 
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Does Boyhood fit the criteria? It was purposefully in production for 12 years, with the characters aging with their actors. What I want to say is, it was an artistic choice to film it for 12 years, rather than production problems.
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That's a great suggestion! 'Added. Thank you so much!
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You're welcome.
Also, don't forget to remove ''first black-led superhero film'' from your Black Panther entry, as I've already mentioned.
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I changed the 'Black Panther' description; from what you said, and from what I read, I'm pretty certain that it's accurate but if you want to take a look, that'd be great. Thank you! (I also checked the cast listings for some films to be even safer.)

& Thank you, again, for Boyhood!
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It is good.
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I dont get the one about "Get Out"... how is its tackling of racism revolutionary? Creative, yes... but a "first"?
And as much as I love "Lady Bird", I am not sure it should steal "The Piano"'s thunder... Harvey Keitel was a supporting character... no more important than the father in "Lady Bird" and in "The Piano", both female leads won the Oscar... and the film won a Golden Palm. I find it unfair for "Lady Bird" to be considered a more revolutionary achievement on the basis of its male casting...
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The tackling of racism isn't revolutionary but it's roasting of white liberals is. I didn't particularly like 'Get Out,' nor did I think it was nearly as insightful as the buzz made it out to be but I can't make this list that subjective. Several critics made some good points about it and there was considerable agreement about its importance. 

I'll look further into 'The Piano' and 'Lady Bird.'
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I did err in one assertion about Lady Bird, Greta Gerwig, and the Oscars so I did fix that but I'm confident about it now. Also, I don't at all think 'Lady Bird' steals the thunder of 'The Piano:' Like I mention in the intro, all of these films stand on the shoulders of earlier movies. That's the nature of progress. 'The Piano' and 'Lost in Translation' and their directors paved the way for 'Lady Bird' and other films, just as there were people who blazed the trials so that a Jane Campion and 'The Piano' could happen. 
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FYC "A Separation" 
First Oscar-winner for Best Foreign Film from a Muslim country

I know "Z" earned Algeria an Oscar but a quick glimpse on the cast and crew shows that it's clearly a European movie that happened to be produced in Algeria without any specific indication of the cultural background of its  shooting location while "A Separation" is a "full" Iranian production, a window on Iranian and Islamic legal procedures, a film where the setting, the plot, the actors and the subjects are in total consistency with the country of its production, unlike "Z" which is a masterpiece nonetheless.
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'Good one! I'll add it. Thank you!
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Only one title comes to mind ...

Parasite (2019)

First international film to win Best Picture at the Oscars.


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Oh yeah! I made this list before the Oscars. Thank you so much!
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Your statements about Netflix and the Oscars for Mudbound and Roma are not accurate if you take documentary films into account. For instance, the first Netflix film to win an Oscar was Icarus.

It is true that Roma was the first Netflix film to be nominated for Best Picture.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...
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I added Icarus and changed the description for Mudbound. Thank you for catching that!

(Roma was ok - it just said that it was the first Netflix film to get a Best Picture nod.)
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You're missing a word in your question: which one do you think reached the furthest?
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Thank you, so much, for catching that, as well!
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Congratulations, ruby. :D
It was a pretty tough decision. I'm sweatting now. ;)
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