The End of Thrones

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Due to the high level of negative criticism and really low ratings on the season's finale, what was the episode (from the 8th season) that made you lose hope that Game of Thrones would have a worthy ending?

The list can be found here: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls044944333/

If you have any suggestions, feel free to share (:
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#6. Episode: The Iron Throne
This seriously needed the "Comedy" genre attached! What Throne?
Wicked Witch of the West
"I'm Melting"
New Title.......... 'Throne: Gone in 60 Seconds'
Oh and we have a ruler of "6 out of The 7 Kingdoms!"
This ending was PC run amok.
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1-st ends it and 2-nd nailed the last iron to the coffin. I wrote that It seems to me producers cheat us inviting different screenwriters and director under Alan Smithee names  for the last season.
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You're one of the few people that I saw feeling the same as me
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Indeed ))
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The problem with the suggestion is that it leaves out everyone who think the ending was worthy, as it assumes you were disappointed by it.

According to my ending of game of Thrones poll 26% of people liked the ending. Maybe you should have an extra option to reflect this.
For my part, I liked the ending and final episode, I did not like how we got there, in that case I would vote for 8.4 as the worst episode, but in the end it would not be an accurate answer as I did ot loose hope.
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Yes, you are right about that.

I added another option to the poll to reflect that feeling. Do you think it's good the way I made the change, or should I add something else?
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The whole season is the nightmare. I have no idea how poor they did it. 
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It seems fine. I would write I instead of You but otherwise it know allows everyone interested to vote.
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You're right. I made the change, thank you (:
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None of them, I highly enjoyed all of the episodes and all of the seasons.

I don't understand the negativity, it's like it came out of nowhere on the breath of dragonfire. The main complaint I have heard is:  "The Dialogue became sparse", but we forgot that whole houses got eradicated. House Baratheon, all gone save one bastard. Houses Stark and Lannister, trimmed down extensively. House Tyrell, totally gone. House Frey, victims of Arya. House of Arryn, taken over by Stinkfinger. The leadership of Dorne, killed off by the Sand Snakes who were then killed by Cersei. The Sept of the Seven: Rubble, and all of the Sparrows roasted with green fire. The head families of Meereen, Dragonfodder. So with a loss like that of what were major characters, there is obviously going to be a large drop in the quantity and quality of conversations.

The other complaint, "GOT had become an Action series", but also forget that the whole show from S01E01 led up to the Living vs the Dead and the Battle with the Night King, followed by the Burning of King's Landing, which Brann had seen in one of his first visions from the original 3-Eyed Raven: In S04E02, Brann has a rapid succession of images, one of them is the shadow of a Dragon flying over King's Landing. We didn't know what that meant back then, but we do know now, and all of the elements of season 8 seems like they were put into place long before it was made. We had been given hints like this all through the series, usually in the form of "Prophecies" and Visions.

There were a few things I would have liked to see, but season 8 was basically a Denouement after several seasons filled with climaxes, but it had to include the two final battles. Not much story to tell after that other than wrapping it all up. Plus, I was glad that all of the cool people I really liked ended up on the Small Council, including Ser Bron of the Blackwater and Sam, which must have humbled those Maesters who would not listen to him at The Citadel...
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I am in San Diego County.

I have two accounts because I accidentally made a second one thinking that it was the same email address as the first one. When I made my response I accidentally used this account, which I don’t use much.

The word “pogrom”, it’s not just how Game of Thrones suddenly became overly scrutinized with negative attention, this is an ongoing thing that started maybe four, five years ago and it’s just gotten worse, not just on IMDb but, well you know that rotten tomatoes has been attacked on occasion by an infusion of robotic fake accounts? But they did something about it and removed a lot of the Bots they could detect. Certain things give this activity away: if you just scan through any recent movie or TV show that suddenly started getting a lot of negative attention, especially when the initial reactions were extremely positive, (a good example would be “Warcraft” directed by Duncan Jones, The very first reactions were extremely positive, but then all of a sudden this was overshadowed by a huge influx of negative reviews and ratings). That’s just one example. But the things to look for are reviews at are basically verbatim duplicates, and reviews that may be similar to others that include bulleted lists of complaints. I mean, really, who gives that much attention to something that they hate?

When you think about it, what kind of person, when they actually despise something, LEAPS onto their home PC or hand device to post very long negative reviews of something that they absolutely hated? I don’t know of anybody that would invest the time to do this if they hated something, The most common reaction would be not to bother. Which is basically what I do, except for those rare occasions when I myself post a one star, but I never do it on the very day something is released.

In general I only post positive reviews and ratings when I have been extremely moved by something and I want to get my thoughts about it published as quickly as possible. IMDb had been the best outlet for that until this activity started, although I use my own review site.

But when you start to see hundreds of people posting basically the same identical complaint, there’s simply something going on that’s not normal.

Years ago, I put my up reviews and thoughts about Star Wars episodes one through three, which are some of my rare one star ratings and reviews (it takes a lot for me to despise something), I happened to skim through the user reviews of those films, it was basically equally distributed hate/love. And when I put up those negative reviews, I did not do it on the very day that the films were released, I did it years later. But lately when the negative reviews appear, they usually start within hours of the first showing, or sometimes while the episode is still playing On TV! It is as if they didn’t even wait until it was over before they posted their bulleted list.

These days, you look through just about any release, be it a TV show or a film, and a lot of times, I’m not saying all of the time, but you will see it lopsided toward “hate”- including hundreds of “not helpful” votes (aka the “IMDb Downvote Button”) on any positive reviews .

10 years ago this was not happening.
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O_o...

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That's an interesting explanation, XweAponX, thanks. However I was merely interested how it even entered English considering that it's mostly a word from Slavic languages.  

I can totally agree that aggregation websites and rise of hype criticism made it harder for movies to find the audience and also not to fall into strictly "awful" or "brilliant". Simplifications like that always frustrate me as a film fan as I know that there's always something of value even in worst movies and there's always a failure or two even in the most acclaimed ones. 
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Oh! Haha!!! I don’t know, I’m not really a linguist, I collect weird words and I use them because they sound funny .

I’m sorry for my extremely large TOME (tm) I posted in response . Hopefully that will explain to certain people why I don’t believe that the ratings on IMDb for the last episode and season represent the true feelings of the fans of the show, because everybody that I have spoken to ( Face to face ) loved it. And of all of my friends on Facebook only one of them didn’t like it and his opinion of it is another stamped out clone, meaning it sounds like everybody else’s invalid arguments, that came from a Reddit post and not from their own minds.

I just watched the rains of Castamere last night, which is probably the most disturbing episode of the entire show , but it also represents the exact middle of the show and the point where all of these issues came to a head and had to start coming together and resolving after that . It’s the first we see of a white walker, The one that I call “no shirt“, which was probably the infant that was left at crafters and picked up by The white walker and transformed by the the night king (in his first ever appearance)- because no other white walkers ran around with no shirt like that. But that is the one that we see killed by Sam’s obsidian knife. Also Daenerys collecting the second sons, Bran finally getting into the north. A lot of very significant things happen, but it’s also the start of the thinning out of all of the storylines, so by the time we get to the end of season seven there was literally nothing left. Why go back-and-forth rapidly between different groups of characters if there are no characters left and they are all gathered in the same place ( Winterfell ) anyway? There was no other way for the story to be written and I don’t know how the book is going to be different or if it will be, but I don’t see George R.R. Martin complaining about it either, he loved it.

I had not noticed it before but the red woman cursed three people: Robb Starck, Joffrey Baratheon, and Theon grayjoy‘s father - and within a very short time after the leeches thing, they were all dead in pretty horrible ways. It’s weird when you have to go back and watch episodes that you originally BingeWatched, you pick up a lot of the detail that you saw the first time but you didn’t understand its significance until the end of the show, and other storylines that came later explained it.
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XweAponX collecting weird words sounds like a smart and unique hobby... Says the guy, who also does that, to be honest. :) 
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I think that season 8 was good and I'm happy with the outcome.