The "Known For" section on my page incorrectly describes me

  • 2
  • Question
  • Updated 2 months ago
  • Answered
The "Known For" section on my page incorrectly describes me as Production Manager of "Oh Doctor Beeching!"  I was Producer.
Photo of Charles Garland

Charles Garland

  • 4 Posts
  • 6 Reply Likes

Posted 1 year ago

  • 2
Photo of Jeorj Euler

Jeorj Euler

  • 7225 Posts
  • 9402 Reply Likes
Hi, Charles Garland. The display may be due to there being more credits in the "production manager" section of the IMDb filmography you than in the "producer" section thereof. If you were to recommend that the algorithm behind this be upgraded to display in general the most frequent occupation associated with a given title in regards to that title, then I would agree with the recommendation. Please bear in mind that such recommendation would be a feature request (an "idea"), and the IMDb company may not arrange for their technicians or developers make the desired upgrades for a long time, since technically nothing about the situation implies that the existing feature is broken or malfunctioning. The algorithm may produce misleading results, but those results are not outright erroneous.
Photo of Charles Garland

Charles Garland

  • 4 Posts
  • 6 Reply Likes
Hi Jeorj. I take your point - but on this particular series I was never Production Manager. I didn't choose the other credits on my page, so yes, there are a lot of shows on which I was production manager. But in a different situation, would you like to be called kitchen porter, which an employment agency discovered you did for five years, and then having eventually become executive chef at The Ritz, to be described as kitchen porter there, because there were more listings for that job elsewhere? It is no huge change, surely?  On my CV that programme clearly states that for series 1, I was Assistant Producer, (although as it happens I was actually Producer in all but name) and for Series 2, I was credited as Producer. I hope that someone can delete two words and insert one ....  Many thanks.
Photo of Jeorj Euler

Jeorj Euler

  • 7225 Posts
  • 9402 Reply Likes
Charles Garland. If you would interest you, then with an active IMDbPro subscription and your claim upon the IMDb name page about you, you can pick and choose which titles to be included in the "Known For" block of the page.
Photo of Charles Garland

Charles Garland

  • 4 Posts
  • 6 Reply Likes
Thanks Jeorj - I did have an IMDbPro subscription, but didn't know I could choose those blocks.
Photo of ACT_1

ACT_1

  • 3539 Posts
  • 3402 Reply Likes

The "Known For" section on my page incorrectly describes me as
Production Manager of "Oh Doctor Beeching!"  I was Producer
by Charles Garland
Joined community on September 1, 2018
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/people/charles_garland_ayk7fysu7n459
- - -

Charles Garland (I)
Miscellaneous Crew |  Production Manager |  Producer
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0307506/

Known For
Oh Doctor Beeching!
Production Manager
(1995-1997)

Oh Doctor Beeching!  (1995-1997)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115302/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115302/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115302/fullcredits
Charles Garland   ... production manager (1 episode, 1995) 
Charles Garland   ... producer / assistant producer (19 episodes, 1996-1997) 


(Edited)
Photo of Joel

Joel, Employee

  • 948 Posts
  • 1157 Reply Likes
Hi Charles,

Thanks for your post.

I can see with your credits on Oh Doctor Beeching! you have been listed as a production managerproducer and an assistant producer - as mentioned by Jeorj, with an IMDbPro membership you can order your Known For and decide which titles to include.

However, for titles/series where you performed multiple roles, our system automatically selects one and doesn't currently allow you to select a alternate sub-role.

Thanks for understanding. 

Joel
Photo of Charles Garland

Charles Garland

  • 4 Posts
  • 6 Reply Likes
Thanks Joel - but I was Production Manager for ONE episode, and Producer for the entire Series 2. I makes little sense just to go for the first one.  What happens if someone starts on "Friends" as a runner, and works her way up to be director?  Would she still be listed as runner?  Many thanks.
Photo of Joel

Joel, Employee

  • 948 Posts
  • 1157 Reply Likes
Hi Charles,

Thanks for the response.

The Known For logic can be seen on the guide here:

https://help.imdb.com/article/imdb/discover-watch/known-for-title-selection/GNL2E4LJVKM9QLMD

This states:
  • The job performed on the title (a credit as director will have more weight than a credit as production assistant).
  • The frequency of credits for a particular job in the context of the person's filmography (writing credits may have more weight for someone who is more frequently credited as a writer than as a producer).
  • The type of title (a credit for a theatrical feature has a different weight than a credit for a short film or a TV series).
As you have been listed more so as a Production Manager, this role has more weight on the title Oh Doctor Beeching! and as such includes this role first - as this is due to technical convention, we're unable to change it on a case by case basis.

Joel
Photo of Nic Lawson

Nic Lawson

  • 1 Post
  • 2 Reply Likes
As an industry professional, I object to imdb's attitude to our careers. I've been to a job interview worth over £100k to me and when I mentioned a series on which I was cinematographer, I was asked if it was the one on which I was camera operator. The confusion came because of the 'logic' rules quoted above. This ridiculous and dangerous system dictates what producers and directors see and influences how they feel about the professionals they hire. So many of us see imdb as something to overcome rather than a positive force in the industry. If I could replace it tomorrow with something that respects our data and our livelihoods, I would.
Photo of Nikolay Yeriomin (Mykola Yeromin)

Nikolay Yeriomin (Mykola Yeromin), Champion

  • 2852 Posts
  • 3670 Reply Likes
Nic Lawson, I'd say it's not IMDb's fault, though: it's an industry-wide problem. The greatest and worst irony about this is that such kind of behaviour from casting agencies and hiring productions is partially why filmmaking is considered by larger job market to be something unreliable, lazy and odd, and so often costs people other job opportunities. Filmmaking is a bit of a ghetto because of that, but such hiring policies actually add to it rather then making the industry look more professional. 
(Edited)