Lists: Offer better selection / control for "Related Lists" feature

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The related user lists for a specific movie has become useless to find similar movies to watch. Even if the movie is very special (for exemple, campy superhero movies from the 60's), the related lists are mostly massive lists such as "movies I watched" with 3000 titles in it. 95% of users lists are not interesting because they are just useful for teh person who created them. There's no common theme, genre or ideas. The problem with the user lists is that they are public by default, so the list section is populated with useless list like "movies I have on my iPhone". And it deosn't help that there's no option to search lists by keyword.
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Hi Sebastien K

I absolutely agree with you. IMDb should implement a function that does justice to relevant user-lists. Promoting the idea of useful, themed lists will not only be beneficial to other IMDb users but also to the overall quality of the site itself. I have made a number of requests in the past but have, as of yet, received no replies. Maybe, if a large number of people voice their grievances IMDb will at least consider implementing a change?
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Dear IMDb Staff: User Lists.

I am of the opinion that a large number of IMDb Users have (and continue) to make invaluable contributions to IMDb, and film in general, through their public lists. Every day I am astounded by the sheer amount of time and effort your Users put into their lists. I for one must admit that ever since discovering IMDb, and in particular; IMDb giving it's users the possibility to compile their own lists - I've been hooked (or addicted, for lack of a better word).

My question is; can you not implement a function that supports this? Besides the already existing related lists function. Maybe a rating system, as voted for by other users, which can appear under the community feature on IMDb's main page? Or, maybe a number of lists chosen by IMDb-Editors that appear for a stipulated time period, then exchanged with other lists when that time-period ends? Something in that line that both encourages the efforts of list-makers, and proves beneficial to IMDb.

Yours sincerely
Dr-Faustus
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled List ratings.

There should be an option to rate lists made by members and an option to sort lists by rating. Right now the only the only way to view lists is to view the most recent lists created and work your way down from there. It would make finding good movies a lot easier. The current system sucks.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled User List filter.

I have been a user for IMDB for many years. There is one issue that has been quite awhile on the site.When i clicked on a movie and see the users list associated with the movie, I found those lists are no longer filtered by popularity(or view number). There used to be some really good user list I used as a movie guide. For example, MY ULTIMATE BEST MOVIES: 2000-2014 created by Dr-Faustus, which is directly accessible by clicking through a popular movie. I really enjoy reading those great user lists and find a movie I never see before. 
I don’t understand why IMDB removed such important feature on the site. Let’s say, I click on Avengers (2012) , now all of user lists are randomly sorted. Many user lists are simply something like “movie I watched today”,”my favorite movie this year”, which makes no sense compared to professional user list like MY ULTIMATE BEST MOVIES: 2000-2014. Please add back the option to see user list by popularity, otherwise I feel the user list features is not useful at all.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Imdb lists are too hard to find, and when found it's almost impossible to find th....

Imdb lists are too hard to find. For example username TopTenner has done an amazing (and time consuming I can imagine) job creating, combining and calculating a list of 1001 best movies of all time according to four different websites. It would be perfect to somehow link this particular list to my profile since I definitely would want to look at it almost every day. The huge amount of work of creating massive lists goes to waste when there's no way for other users to save lists or "become friends with lists" or "add this list to your profile if you want to look at it more later". Please work on this improvement. Thank you.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Displaying of User Lists.

Dear IMDb:

In regards to the column displaying User Lists on title pages:

Depending on the amount of related lists, your algorithm prevents larger lists from being displayed. Typically, less than 50 where popular films are concerned. Would you not agree that all your users should have the privilege of having their list or lists appear openly on the title-page? Regardless of a particular list's length. Could a function not be installed that works on a rotation basis, so that all related lists are displayed at one time or another, and equal opportunity given to other users?
I am quite certain this will not only be beneficial to listees, but, (through an increase in variety of lists openly displayed), also to those visiting the title pages on IMDb.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Dear IMDb: User Lists on Title Pages:.

Presently, there are five user-lists visible on title-pages. Is there any possibility that maybe this number could be increased? Say, to about 10, and on a rotation basis. Where all related lists are featured at one time or another. Regardless of the number of titles any one list may contain.

Your faithfully
Dr-F.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled forumgooch@icloud.com.

Allow logged in IMDB members to vote a list up or down based on their valuation of the list. 
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Voting for user lists.

Hello team, i would like to propose an option to vote for user lists. Then they can enter a contest. and Top 250 most complete/interesting lists of movies. For example:

1. user visits my list and he likes it - he clicks "vote for this list"  (similar to FB likes)
2. lists gathers a lot of votes and goes to top 250 user lists

Also it will be useful for the user, who created the list to be able to receive recommendations from users with titles to add to this list.

Thanks!
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Improving algorithm for finding great lists.

Currently the algorithm that selects which lists to show, e.g. beside an actors IMDb page is essentially useless. Yesterday I looked at Jake Gyllenhaal and a genius had made a list of the top 20 actors which showed up first on the right hand side. On top of the list was Adam Sandler as nr 1...

1. Sure lists are subjective. But maybe the algorithm used by IMDb for choosing the lists to promote isn't really optimal? Because it looked to me as it was biased toward idiots, while the ideally people with smart, funny, knowledgable, and thoughtful lists should be promoted. At least, these are the once I like to read.

2. An indication of the sub optimality (read: f*cked up) algorithm may be that all the lists displayed contained very few actors. Essentially max 20. Don't tell me the algorithm ranks higher lists with few actors, i.e. increase probability of showing up?

3. If you only collect positive feedback of lists, such as retweets, you might end up with only promoting lists which contains only "the most popular" actors or movies for the moment. The equivalent of Kim Kardashians tweets. At least add the possibility to vote down useless lists.

** end of rant **
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled user list under movie page rank problem.

I think user list is a great way to look up movies. But the feature changed its way recently that no longer meets my need. For example, if I go to the page of "The Dark Knight" and look up user list. There are some pretty cool user list such as"ultimate 2000-2010", . Obviously, IMDB used to rank those list by view number and user comment. Till last year, I found the user list found through movie page to be very random. There are just random user list appear on the movie page, and since there are so many user list, it is hard to find those highly ranked list by looking the whole user list page. I don't know why IMDB did this.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Can you add a user rating system to "User Lists".

I love the idea of "User Lists" but they are becoming unusable.  They are great for finding titles that you didn't know about that are similar to titles you are viewing.  Unfortunately, there are far too many people who add everything they watch to a "User List", don't make any comments about it.  When I check out these list, it is no better than a list of random titles and has no meaning to me.  The worst part, is that the more titles on the list, they higher ranking they seem to get and the more likely they will appear attached to the title I'm viewing. Most common lists are in the hundreds of titles and some are in the thousands.  The interesting and useful lists are way down and never get seen.

Can you add a system for users of the lists to be able to rank the lists for interest and usefulness.  Hopefully, this will reduce the popularity of massive lists of titles and increase the popularity of more interesting lists.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Was This List Helpful?.

To promote user-list functionality a feature identical to that which is found accompanying user reviews could be implemented. Where other users can cast their vote if a particular list is helpful or not. For example: '27 out of 58 found this helpful. Was this list helpful Yes / No (clickable).'
Most helpful can then be featured in order from top to bottom on the "Related lists from IMDb users" feature that appears visible on any given title-page.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Select User-lists on the IMDb Main Page.

Dear IMDb:

Over time, title-pages as well as name-pages have included additional features displayed in the right-hand column. One of those features, the "Around The Web" feature, also appears on the IMDb main-page. My question is; could IMDb staff maybe consider also including a "User List" feature on the IMDb main-page? One that appears underneath the "Around The Web" feature, featuring User-lists selected by IMDb-Editors, based solely on criteria established by those editors.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Is it possible to filter out useless user lists using certain keywords in prefere....

When I review some actor/actress' name page, I'm not interested in lists about pretty/ugly or favourites. I'd like to filter those lists out; I do like to see lists like "played in foreign films" or "retired actors" as this gives more useful information (to me). However, these kind of lists are rarely featured on the name page.

I'd like to have a permanent keyword filter that I can set in my user preferences to blot the useless lists out.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Sort related lists by outgoing clicks.

There are an awful lot of lists along the lines of "Film what I watched", "Stuff to download" (which must be rather galling for film-makers), "My DVD collection", etc. (I have similar lists but keep them private because no one is going to be interested) which are nice to for the person and their nosy friends but of very limited interest to the vast majority of visitors. The ones that could be of general use (like "Best Christmas films" on say "It's a Wonderful Life" - made up example but I'm sure some digging could find some prime examples of this), tend to get buried.

It feels like the related lists need better sorting to separate the signal from the noise and tracking who clicked on from the related lists seems the best measure of a lists relevance to a particular film, rather than trying to concoct some complex algorithm for relevance. However, I'd be even happier if there were a few options that you could use to sort the page (I suppose you could also sort by popularity - either by total visits or by the last 3 days worth, this might favour the larger lists but would also tend to push the personal lists down the page).
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what the problem is, is not that people create lists called "movies I've seen". There will always be such lists. The point is to organize, compare, give value to, tag and share the lists people like the most. For example: I have a list of "Best Sci-Fi movies I've seen" If there is an option to tag it with Sci-Fi lists and receive likes or stars and be put together and compared to other Sci-Fi tagged lists, users are going to be much more active. It was crippling enough that forums were removed. Now movie loving people use IMDB for checking some actors and facts, but they cannot share oppinions, discuss endings, etc. Now they do it on other sites. Promoting lists can compensate for that, partially atleast.
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Thanks to whomever merged all the related posts.  Hopefully, this will get the attention of somebody on the IMDb staff and something will be implemented to allow ranking of User Lists.  If we keep posting on this topic, we can keep it active on the forum list.
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(thanks, this was us organising the ideas better on Get Satisfaction for easier future review)