The attribute (extended edition) would represent cast and crew members who are in the extended edition of a feature (or short) but not in the theatrical (or original) cut.
Posted 7 years ago
Peter, Champion
Those labels are usually included in the character field, so I'm not sure there needs to be an attribute.
That is where it is listed in the entry, but it would still have been submitted under 'attribute' on the submission form.
Peter, Champion
No, it's in the character field. You can see this if you open the update form and choose Correct/Delete.
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Okay. However, it was a write-in that is theoretically not allowed by current IMDb policy. It should have never been in the character field in the first place. There is no provision in the Update Form for placing such information in the 'character' field. It can be entered, but it is supposed to be disallowed. That is why a new attribute is needed.
No, it's in the character field. You can see this if you open the update form and choose Correct/Delete.Yes, I see you're right, but that's not really how it should be, because they are certainly not credited that way in the credits, but that's probably how they've done it to bypass the rule that says that "they generally do not accept such credits", due to the lack of the proper attribute. Those notations SHOULD be an attribute, because that's what they are, they are NOT part of the character name from the credits. And that's all the more reason to ask for an attribute for it, so that A: it can be added everywhere where it's applicable, and B: to make it a general rule, and not just an exception a kind member of the staff decides to let through every now and then. Using "we generally don't accept something" in the rule book, suggestion there are exceptions made and not explaining how or why, is not very professional. Either every movie with different cuts should get their credits listed, or none. It's just very unprofessional the way it is now, IMO.
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So, we are actually in agreement. As I suggested before, perhaps the appropriate attribute should read: (added or extended scenes). It isn't perfect, but it gets the point across.
Unless their policies have changed, I doubt that helps much. I did exactly that in a case regarding Mac McDonald in Aliens (1986) a few years ago. He's credited as Simpson in the end credits of the Special Edition, and I posted screenshots of it to support my case. This was before GetSatisfaction, and was posted in some message board on IMDb, and I'm unable to find the specific thread any longer. The gist of the answer I got was that IMDb only concerns themselves with the credits of the original release theatrical cut, and if someone isn't listed there their credit will not be added. They suggested to use the "Other Works" section of an actor's biography section to add a text credit for such work, such as in Mac McDonald's case; "Also appeared as LV-426 commander Simpson in the Special Edition cut of Aliens (1986)" or something along those lines. They will not consider to add those parts as uncredited either, unless said uncredited scene was visible also in the theatrical cut.
The OP has a specific example in this thread as well, which was also rejected, even though the credits are well documented on other sites and in the Extended Cut credits. So this idea thread must be taken as a suggestion for IMDb to finally change their policies in order to let actors who've appeared in such works get their due credit.
The biggest problem is that there is already a lot of double standards currently listed on IMDb, like my already mentioned example of JFK. There's also Superman II and Payback, which received alternate cuts that normally should be listed as a different version of the original, yet in their cases they have added a second title/entry, like Superman II (2006) (V) and Payback: Straight Up (2006) (V). Perhaps all Extended Cuts and Director's Cuts should be added as different titles in order to get all credits up? Just like Superman II and Payback they HAVE been released to video, and satisfy all eligibility rules in the rule book.
This is a call-out for a clarification and clear precedence.
The OP has a specific example in this thread as well, which was also rejected, even though the credits are well documented on other sites and in the Extended Cut credits. So this idea thread must be taken as a suggestion for IMDb to finally change their policies in order to let actors who've appeared in such works get their due credit.
The biggest problem is that there is already a lot of double standards currently listed on IMDb, like my already mentioned example of JFK. There's also Superman II and Payback, which received alternate cuts that normally should be listed as a different version of the original, yet in their cases they have added a second title/entry, like Superman II (2006) (V) and Payback: Straight Up (2006) (V). Perhaps all Extended Cuts and Director's Cuts should be added as different titles in order to get all credits up? Just like Superman II and Payback they HAVE been released to video, and satisfy all eligibility rules in the rule book.
This is a call-out for a clarification and clear precedence.
Emperor, Champion
Aliens is a good example, as there are quite a few people in the extended edition who weren't in the theatrical release. If you can include people who were in deleted scenes, then surely you should be able to add people who were in the extended edition, as this is in effect a deleted scene that was later released with full credits (making it easier to source credits).
I'd support being able to have alternate version as a title page that shadows the main one for those examples, and things like anime with different voice actors, etc.
All you'd really need is another field for the "parent" and you then enter the ID of the main title which this is a version of. Then anything with the filled in parent field wouldn't show up on searches.
Perhaps all Extended Cuts and Director's Cuts should be added as different titles in order to get all credits up?
I'd support being able to have alternate version as a title page that shadows the main one for those examples, and things like anime with different voice actors, etc.
All you'd really need is another field for the "parent" and you then enter the ID of the main title which this is a version of. Then anything with the filled in parent field wouldn't show up on searches.
