Title change not displaying. Help?

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I originally requested a title change for one of my titles, and the new title was honoured. However, it only displays as "New Title" under the "Also Known As" section. I would like the new title to also be the main title that appears at the top of its page and in search results. Anyone know how to fix this? Thank you.
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If you can give a link to the title someone will be able to have a look at the aka and see how it's formatted, as this determines the display name.
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Here's a link right to the AKA section: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8319796/releaseinfo

You'll see that the 'original title' is still displaying at the top, while the 'new title' does not.
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If you change it to this it should work.
 
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I'll give that a shot!
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Ralf.............That will give it a second AKA.
Wrong

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Not if the old one is deleted .
What's wrong now Ed Jones (XLIX) did I upset you again?
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Guy  Yes try that and it should work. Disregard what Ed Jones (XLIX) says as the old aka has to be deleted anyhow as it can't just be corrected.


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Guy, Sorry about the bad advice above.
Ralf means well, and was trying to help.

Here is the problem. IMDb's policy is that the database remain accurate.
You have released it with one title, now you want to change it.
That is OK. But the first title takes priority and the second title is an AKA.
Changing a titles name while in production is allowed.
There would be no AKA.
Once released however it is unalterable.
Sorry

Cheers
Ed
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Guy, a title that has been released and screened cannot be deleted
Ralf again is incorrect.
Please don't take any advice from him.
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You're the one giving bad advise. Of course you can change the aka. The original title still remains no matter how many akas there are.
Sorry...
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Ralf, addressing another member in the fashion you are using is in violation of the contributors charter.
Please discontinue.
Thanks
Ed
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Ed Jones (XLIX) please immediately discontinue telling customers not to take advise from me.
The advise you gave was wrong.
Cease and desist -- OMG the drama -- LOL
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Ralf, please read the help topics before advising people.
Thanks.
He is requesting that the Odd Life be replaced completely.
His title is not eligible for a correction or to be replaced. It was screened.
This is a title correction. You were on the AKA Page.
This is a title correction page.
Do you see the difference?




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Do you see what he is asking?



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I would like the new title to also be the main title that appears at the top of its page and in search results.
Ralf, this request is not possible because of the release and screening as admitted to by Guy.
Do you understand this?
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Hello Guy. I noticed that this was released in Canada 16 Months ago.
Was it released with the Odd Life Title at that time?

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Yes, that would be correct.
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Guy, I apologize for all the lessons to Ralf on your page.
I'm very sorry for any inconvenience.
Cheers
Ed
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Yay success. Ed Jones (XLIX) eat humble pie and apologize.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8319796
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:O   IT WORKED!!! THAT WAS QUICK!!! Thank you for your help, Ralf! Ed Jones, I'm not picking sides; I simply followed a suggestion, as it would not hurt me to try! :)
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No worries Guy. Glad to have been of help.
By the way you can request the old aka be deleted if you wish.
Cheers mate... :)
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What on earth are you talking about?
He wants the AKA to be the main title.
The Main title is still the same.
That title He Does Not Want.
Are you not comprehending the request?
Please READ his request again.

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And Just as I said. You have added another unneeded AKA
Now there are 2 AKA's

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Nothing has changed on the Title Card


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Hmmm, I see the change while logged in. I however don't see the change while logged out. Ralf seems to see the change though. Maybe it just takes some time to fully update? 
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I did not either. I logged out and it changed too.
Since this had been released 16 months ago under the other title, the title should not have been changed. I will leave this up to an Employee. You said back in January that it was The Odd Life. That should remain as the main and the AKA should revert back.
Like I said, we will see what staff says.
Cheers Guy.

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Guy if you clear the cache that should solve it. 
aka's have nothing to do with the original title, and the edit won't need to be reversed.
Anyhow we shall wait for the official reply from an IMDb staff member.
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And it is still not on top as requested



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While the "primary title" should be the original title, later titles can be listed as "IMDb display title" or "new title", and IMDb displays these instead of the primary title based on user location or settings.

So if the aka is the title the show is currently best known under, a display title entry seems appropriate.
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This matter is solved. Ralf and Peter are correct, and anything to the contrary is mistaken or irrelevant.
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Jeorj Euler

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However, there appears to be some data corruption, so to speak, that needs to be addressed: #190519-094636-139000.
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Thanks Jeorj Euler for clearing that up. Most appreciated.
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All Ralf has done is display the title differently internationally.
The title in the target home country has remain unchanged.
The producer of the title wanted to change the title so that it reflected what current versions now say.
So the title still displays as it always has in the USA and Canada.
Problem is, is there are supposed previous versions that are not titled with the requested title change.
The earlier versions may have been eradicated and no longer viewable. But the fact still remains that the Producer admitted that there were indeed versions that reflect the accurate listing at the time of first release. That makes later versions AKA's. This was the point I was making all along. Ralf's attempted change was a cheat on the systems accuracy.
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Jeorj Euler This matter is solved. Ralf and Peter are correct, and anything to the contrary is mistaken or irrelevant.
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When I change my title display setting to Canada, I see "EL QUANGO VS." as the main title.

Ralf's attempted change was a cheat on the systems accuracy.

I don't see your point. Ralf suggested an alternative title, not a title correction of the original title.

One thing, though: The aka should probably be written in usual mixed case: El Quango vs.
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Hi, Ed. Thanks for bringing that up. If that is a definite discrepancy, additional aka items can be added for USA and Canada. I never really thought about it before, as I assumed (perhaps callously) that "International: English" would automatically affect the United States, the United Kingdom, South Africa, Canada, Australia and so on and so forth.
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I totally forgot about considering proper capitalization, Peter. The two deletions and two additions in my all-in-one submission might wind up being declined. If not, it will be important to go back and fix the letter case.
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Yes correct  Peter, thanks for bringing that to our attention.
The aka should probably be written in usual mixed case: El Quango vs.
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While this was released in Canada first.
No one has asked the poster/producer of the title his actual home target market before advice was given.
He may be a US Based entity. He made mention that he could only see it when logged out. Same as me. Jeorj sees it as I did and so did the original poster of the topic.
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Actually, Guy said the title only changed for him while logged in. This suggests the "International" aka is displayed for him based on his account settings, but not based on his location alone. There have been past discussions about title display geocoding not always working as expected.

When you say you don't see the change while logged in it begs the question: What is your title display setting?

https://www.imdb.com/preferences/general
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Mine is default.

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I don't think that's the default. Either way, when you have it set to Original you always see the original title.
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It is the default/original setting.
If you sign up for an account, it defaults to original.
You must change it for your region if desired. Since I'm in the U.S. I have had no reason to change it. Probably over 1/2 the IMDb users never change this.
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Hi all,

As the series was first released under the "odd life" title then it is listed correctly on IMDb at present in line with our policy to reflect the title as it was originally released.

Apologies that I can't be of more assistance this time.

Regards,
Will
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Hi, Will. I do not think anybody is trying to change the original title anymore. We were hoping somebody might further explain the practical nuances of aka items that have the "imdb display title" attribute, which a help article touches on to an extent.
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Hi Jeorj,

There are certain complexities behind what title text displays on a title, these are primarily controlled by the alternate titles data, your account settings, then by your location.

Firstly the alternate titles data. Please use (imdb display title) wherever possible and specifically target it to a country as opposed to using the worldwide option, that is the best option to accurately affect the display for a country. Please see this guide for more details. 

You can also edit your site preferences by hovering over your name in the top right, selecting Account settings, Content settings, then you can choose to only display the "Original title" which makes the title show up as:







As there is an English worldwide (imdb display title) on this example, if you change it to United States you will get this as your display:




 

If there is both a worldwide and a country specific (imdb display title) on the title then the country specific (imdb display title) will override the worldwide one in terms of the display.

I hope this helps to explain the logic.

Regards,
Will
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Will, so before anybody jumped in and made recommendations on altering an AKA, it would have been best to know the home market that the original poster was located, and selected the appropriate attribute so that the display title would reflect what was needed. Am I correct in that assumption?
Thanks

Ed
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It would certainly help to know what settings they have, where they are located and what alternate title attributes exist on the title page. The display options of course are user preference though, so it is dependent on how they wish to view the title.
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Exactly my point. I tried to explain it, to everyone, but they leaped before they looked.
Thanks Will
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