Updates to TV Series Full Cast & Crew pages

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As Col referenced in his post earlier this week, we're pleased to announce that we've added episodic information to the Series Cast section of the TV Series Full Cast & Crew page.  This means that TV Series Full Cast & Crew is now a one-stop shop that not only provides the number of episodes in which a given actor / actress appeared, but also shows the exact episodes in which the actor / actress appeared (with links to the episodes).  You can access the data by clicking on the down arrows to the right of the years (see screenshot below).  

You can access the particular's episode's full cast by clicking on a particular episode's link.  For example, clicking on the "Wrap Around the Clock" Family Ties episode for Micheal J. Fox will take you to the episode's page, which shows the entire cast for the episode.    

As part of this enhancement, early next week, we’re eliminating the old Episode Cast page.  If you had an Episode Cast page bookmarked, upon using your bookmark, you’ll automatically be redirected to the corresponding Full Cast & Crew page. 





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Joe Giardino

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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled What the HELL is going on with IMBD site?.

1. "Episode Cast" STOPPED WORKING. 2. Instead it tracks to "Full Cast And Crew"
3. "On Tonight" disappeared, cutting my reason for visiting IN HALF. 4. Slap-In-The-Face ads for movies that already surround the entire page Frame! (Like you think we MISSED IT!) 5. Stupid Ads every 3 pictures when going through the photo gallery...
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About those ads, a certain eponymous extension for the purpose of blocking web advertisements seem to eliminate them (even in the image gallery slide show), but I should caution that ad blockers can impair the functionality of the site, so, you might want to reconfigure them to not indiscriminately block ads. Also, every site that you visit would really appreciate it if none of us blocked ads. It's how a lot of sites earn revenue, and IMDb is not exactly an exception. For IMDb, what I do is temporarily disable my web browser's ad blocker once in a while to see what ads there are to see. I've observed a lot of Amazon, Amazon Prime, Amazon Video and Amazon Prime Video ads, which is kind of funny. I hope it is not a sign of IMDb being a struggling company.
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Considering how I feel about IMDB right now, I don't care.  lol  They've taken away my most used function for what feels like a whim, and I'm not happy about it at all, so personally, keep those ads off.  That said, my ad blocker doesn't actually do much these days anyway on some sites, including IMDB.  I should probably look for a newer one.  Back to ads, I'm sick of them, especially those pre-rolled ads that play up to 30 seconds before videos you want to watch.  Most of the time, I forget it and close out the page.  I'm sick of ads.
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First of all, the Site itself has ads framing the page your viewing, so no ad blocker is going to stop it. The ad after every three photos in any IMDB photo gallery IS IMDB doing the inserting. And it's getting out of hand.
Yes, IMDB needs revenue like every other site, but while framing the whole page with a monster ad for "Thor: Ragnarok", and THEN have it burst through the center of the page (As if we POSSIBLY MISSED IT!!!) has crossed the line into the OBNOXIOUS, and drying us AWAY from the site. Is it REALLY worth that much more revenue to frame it AND have it burst through the page? I'll start boycotting films that do that.
At what point does IMDB think it's 'ad saturation' is too much? Because as far as the rest of us are concerned THEY PASSED IT!
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Actually some ad blockers do work to an extent.  All we can do as individuals is follow through.  I'm already not using it nearly as much as before because it's too difficult to find what I need.  I'm not recommending the site anymore either.  It's all I can do as one person.  I just have to hope that people continue to complain and lessen site usage and stop viewing those ads until they listen and reverse themselves.  I want my ep cast pages back!
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Episode cast.

Where has Episodes Cast gone? This is an incredibly useful feature as it allows us to scroll down and look at the cast episode by episode for an entire series. It would be far more time-consuming and irritating to have to go to every episode to look at the cast individually. I hope IMDb has not decided to reduce functionality by doing away with this feature, which I use all the time.

Note: This conversation was created from a reply on: Changes to IMDb Characters.
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And yes, looks like they have! What an awful decision. Thanks very much for making my life researching characters much more difficult. Please reconsider this stupid move.
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I agree with many other commenters. Please restore a viewing option for Episodes Cast. That's a much easier to way to see information when you're looking up a specific episode.
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IMDB has made a serious mistake in removing the "Episode Cast" link for TV Series. This was the most frequently visited "one-stop" page for any TV Series in the decades I've been visiting the site. "Most frequently used" should scream out to IMDB "DO NOT REMOVE!" and "Advertising Hot Spot."

If their intent was to multiply "hits" for ads by making us click on dozens of pages instead of one, I've got news for them: we won't be clicking on different pages for every episode. Instead, we'll leave IMDB and search for another website. Maybe someone will create a new competitor. Maybe users will "identify" the sponsors on the "full cast and crew" page and begin boycotting those websites, emailing them and telling them why. This insult goes deeper than they realize--this was an "essential" feature.

On the other hand, if the removal was because of some incompatible functionality in their new monitoring scheme, they'd better explain it was "necessary" to remove it. That is still no excuse for not creating something with the "same functionality" to do the same job: All episodes with cast listed by season on one page with only scrolling necessary for all TV Series.

In a classroom, the first lesson an instructor in Microsoft Access will teach students when creating any database is "never delete" data or functionality. IMDB's "full cast and crew" page is a waste of time for users who need the "Episode Cast" feature because it is NOT an Episode Cast Guide By Episode and Season. I'm not saying take away anything new. I'm saying they had better get to work fast and build a new function for "Episode Cast" and place it exactly where the link used to be below the "Episode List" so users can easily find it. I'm so disgusted I've stopped visiting the website at all and hunt for an alternative. Pay attention, IMDB.
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Orrymain

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You are absolutely right.  My time on IMDB is down 75% and lessening because I'm so frustrated by the change.  It's annoying and way too time consuming for my tastes.
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Sadly I doubt that IMDB are listening to us or think that our opinion matters in any way,

Which is sad, because they depend on submitters like myself for their raw data. How they mess up the data that the punters see, with popup and pop-over adverts and dumbed-down presentation is of no great concern to me.

But I would like a submitter's view of that data, in credits order, and with as few distractions as possible, to make it easy to check and cross-check.

But as time goes on, I think things are turning worse and worse. I see that even with Reference View turned on, the entries for people have changed to the dumbed-down version that non-ref-view people have been getting.

Ho hum. IMDB used to be good when it was data-oriented rather than presentation-oriented - the usual and inevitable style-over-substance decline.
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The time I spend using IMDb has largely been forgone for interacting with the Get Satisfaction portal for IMDb. Come to think of it, I should check to see what is being expressed on the Twitter page for IMDb, and maybe Facebook as well (though I'm not fond at all for Facebook).
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Epsode Cast.

Why does the Epsode Cast category no longer exist?
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Jeorj Euler

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The question is why the IMDb company will not instate a new Episode Cast page generator. I'd guess that pages of such kind consume too many resources for shows that have many episodes or large casts.
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Because they're IDIOTS. It isn't "consuming too many resources" because the cast-per-episode pages still exist! (Just harder to get to)
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Jeorj Euler

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I'm referring specifically to the situation of running all those casts lists together. It creates a very large page to transmit from the server machine to the client machine. That costs time, network bandwidth, processor usage and RAM usage. The company, regardless of wisdom or lack thereof, doesn't believe that we're worth accommodating. That is the bottom line.
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Well, my use of their bandwidth is dramatically down.  They are no longer a user friendly site.
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Steve Jeremko

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Please restore the "Episodes Cast" option! Your removal of this option has greatly diminished the usefulness and enjoyment of this site. The "Episode Cast" option you had was indeed a "one-stop" feature.  This change make using this site so much more difficult...   
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled What has happened to the episode cast list?.

I went on to a TV series and all that seems to come up is the Episode List and not the Episode Cast List
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There is no longer a page that lists the casts of all episodes of a television series on a single page (URL). Not even a page to see a list of all episodes of a show but separated by season exists anymore. Yes, it is a disappointing loss.
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I'm particularly concerned with the changes to the Episode List pages.  The Desktop version of the site seems to be following the lead of the Mobile site, in that one can no longer see a single page list of all of a show's episodes.  Instead, the user has the option of choosing from dropdown menus for either Season or Year.  
The single page list was incredibly useful when searching for an episode by name, using the Find function of your browser.  Watched a random episode of "The Joy of Painting" on Youtube and want to rate it ... but can't be bothered to search through 31 seasons, one at a time?  
There was also a single page list that could be sorted by User Rating, and that seems to be gone too.  Never seen an episode of "Friends" before and wonder which are the highest rated or most watched episodes before you decide to start from S1E1?  Can't do that anymore.
I hate to be cynical, but i believe this single change has increased IMDb's number of page-clicks exponentially, and this can only have something to do with ad revenue.  IMDb doesn't want the user to spend too much time on a single page -- they want clicks.  And i'm afraid they might soon find that those clicks will be to other sites.  It seems that IMDb doesn't care much anymore about user experience or usefulness of the site.  As a pioneer of the web, it carved out a truly magnificent corner for itself and became a monster lording over any competition that might have been.  It practically holds a monopoly on TV and film data ... and so, they feel that they can do whatever they want because the public has no choice but to accept it.  And it's a darn shame.
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Thank you for your continued feedback. Returning this functionality to the site is a priority for us and we are actively working on it. While I cannot give you a specific date when it will light up again, it is going to be sooner rather than later.
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Thank you for your response.  To clarify, are you referring to the Full Cast & Crew page only, or also the single-page Episode List pages?
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I'm very eager for this and hope the "sooner" isn't too far from now.  I am assuming you are referring to the "episode cast" listing where we can see the cast listing for an entire series.  I feel hopeful by your reply and appreciate the update!  Thanks for listening!
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I second that. If you are referring to restoring the complete series episode cast list then thank you for listening.
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Yes, the lack of the episode list at present is the biggest problem with the recent changes to IMDB. The sooner it is restored, the better. Th so-called replacement, which listed the number of epsiodes that each actor had appeared in, with the ability to open up to display those episodes, was a very poor substitute and not what contributors like me needed when checking submissions. Maybe use the old web page output as a specimen for what the new page should look like. I've got a few saved pages (display page, CtrlA to select all, copy and paste to a text file) if you need to see what information was previously present.

Apart from that, the new reference view page seems to meet all my needs - and of course it's updated much more quickly. Just one little niggle with it: the "credited as" attributes for companies are not being displayed, so it's necessary to do a dummy "update page" to confirm that the attribute is present, when I check each submission before moving it from my pending to processed pile.
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To clarify, I was specifically referring to the question about the single page of all episodes with sorting by vote/rating/date. It is this page we are working on right now.

Chris.
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And cast I hope? GIven how useful this is.
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So this is a list of every episode for every season, with its title, series.episode number, date, plot summary and cast in credit-number order, with those episodes being sortable by vote, rating or date (probably only date order will be useful to most of us, but feel free to add other sort orders).

Sounds good.

For reference, this is how it used to look (a copy from the web page and paste as text file) - for "Casualty" (1986), with a huuuuge chunk omitted:

Season 1, Episode 1: Gas
6 September 1986
When several patients start filtering into Holby hospital with similar burn wounds and all being tight-lipped about the details of their accidents, the staff become suspicious. Meanwhile, the medical personnel on the A&E ward are having to deal with managements justification of the night-shift routine which is under threat. Leaning slightly on the personal lives of the staff rather than the storyline contained within the episode, however, it was a decent pilot which sets up the interesting characters and their backgrounds nicely for further episodes.
    Bernard Gallagher    ...     Ewart Plimmer
    Derek Thompson    ...     Charlie Fairhead

    Brenda Fricker    ...     Megan Roach
    Julia Watson    ...     Barbara 'Baz' Samuels

    George Harris    ...     Clive King
    Christopher Rozycki    ...     Kuba Trzcinski
    Debbie Roza    ...     Susie
    Catherine Shipton    ...     Duffy (as Cathy Shipton)

    Robert Pugh    ...     Andrew Ponting

    Lisa Bowerman    ...     Sandra Mute
    Colin Fisher    ...     Brenner
    Roger Ostime    ...     Norman Parker
    Phil McCall    ...     Starchy Harris
    Emma Vansittart    ...     Dannie Bennett (as Emma Watson)

    Trevor Cooper    ...     Ralph
    Al Ashton    ...     Robert Palmer
    Juliette Grassby    ...     Mrs. Jones
    Madeleine Nash    ...     Sophie Jones
    Brian Haines    ...     Mr. Cartwright

    Nancie Herrod    ...     Mrs. Price
    Roy Evans    ...     Relative
    Helen Gwyn    ...     TV Journalist
    Graham Cole    ...     Junior Doctor (uncredited)
Season 1, Episode 2: Hide and Seek
13 September 1986
A young girl arrives on A&E after being knocked unconscious by a passing train. Her half-sister alerts the ambulance and accompanies her to Holby but refuses to talk as to the reasons behind the apparent attempted suicide attempt; but some clever coercion from staff member Clive King uncovers a family issue which could have been the cause. Meanwhile, a spot-check at the hospital by a member of the DHSS uncovers some interesting information when porter Kuba Trzcinski speaks without thinking.
    Bernard Gallagher    ...     Ewart Plimmer
    Derek Thompson    ...     Charlie Fairhead

    Brenda Fricker    ...     Megan Roach
    Julia Watson    ...     Barbara 'Baz' Samuels

    George Harris    ...     Clive King
    Christopher Rozycki    ...     Kuba Trzcinski
    Debbie Roza    ...     Susie Mercier
    Catherine Shipton    ...     Lisa 'Duffy' Duffin (as Cathy Shipton)

    Robert Pugh    ...     Andrew Ponting

    Lisa Bowerman    ...     Sandra Mute
    Colin Fisher    ...     Brenner
    David Simeon    ...     Bob Bates

    Zelah Clarke    ...     Ruth White
    Alan Coveney    ...     Jonathan

    Andrew Hall    ...     Richard
    Karen Seers    ...     Debbie Clark
    Sophie Millard    ...     Jackie Clark
    Christopher Ashley    ...     Mr. Clark
    Niven Boyd    ...     Phil Jessop
    Tracy Harper    ...     Rosie Jessop
    Sonia Woolley    ...     Roz Plimmer

and so on, for every season, up to

Season 32, Episode 11: Episode #32.11
4 November 2017
    Neet Mohan    ...     Rashid Masum
    Crystal Yu    ...     Lily Chao
    Michael Stevenson    ...     Iain Dean
    Jason Durr    ...     David Hide
    Charlotte Salt    ...     Sam Nicholls
    Amanda Mealing    ...     Connie Beauchamp
    Amanda Henderson    ...     Robyn Miller
    Azuka Oforka    ...     Louise Tyler
    Jamie Davis    ...     Max Walker
    Jaye Griffiths    ...     Elle Gardner
    William Beck    ...     Dylan Keogh
    Chelsea Halfpenny    ...     Alicia Munroe
    Catherine Shipton    ...     Lisa 'Duffy' Duffin (as Cathy Shipton)
    James Wilby    ...     Archie Grayling
    Abigail Cruttenden    ...     Sadie Holm
    Paul Warriner    ...     Clint Holm
    Catriona Yuill    ...     Rhonda Washbrook
    Keith Drinkel    ...     Roland Polly
    Dave Wong    ...     Richard Heng
    Buckso Dhillon-Woolley    ...     Madia Masum

(that's when you pulled the plug on the old episode cast list)
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"And cast I hope? Given how useful this is."

I'd say that a list of all episodes, without accompanying cast in credit-number order (or alphabetic if there are no credit numbers specified), would be of minimal use.

So, yes, cast - yes please :-)
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My apologies, my post was on the wrong thread. The page you are referring to is not the one I was referring to.
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So you are NOT bringing back the episode cast page that so many of us want returned, the one that lists the series by season and includes the entire cast on one page?  Why?  Can you give us a good reason why this page was removed in the first place?  I just don't understand.  It was already there, full of the information we need, and IMDB removed it, making the use of IMDB much more difficult for us.
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My post was intended to be a reply to Bill McLaughlin's question about the single page that contained all episodes. Please see Col's post here https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/upcoming-changes-to-several-imdb-features-du6man1opd5q0 that talks to the changes that have been made.

Thanks,
Chris.
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Yes, yes, yes. That thread describes what has changed and gives very good reasons why you needed to rewrite code. But nowhere have I seen an explanation that satisfies me of why the functionality - the web page of information - has been removed, irrespective of the code needed to produce that output.

Why was it not possible to write new code that produces the same episode_cast page that we have always had, with the list of episodes and all the associated cast, all in one place with no need to click to expand sections?

Yes, you've given us other features, but I do hope you aren't labouring under the misapprehension that these replace the traditional episode_cast page or in any way satisfy our needs.

I would be very interested to hear why this page is no longer available, either using the older code to generate it (which I appreciate has legacy issues) or using brand-new code that is easier to maintain.

You're giving us all sorts of things that we don't need, but not the single thing that we do want and need.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled I just noticed that when I select a specific episode in an actors list of episode....

Hi, I just noticed that when I select a specific episode in an actors list of episodes they appeared on in a TV series I am taken to the main page for the series. Who made up the specs? What useability, if any, was tested? Who, if anybody, in the user community did you ask? This is very annoying because it interrupts the flow of research. Please fix.
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