Updates to User Reviews

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Today we are announcing changes to User Reviews as part of the broader site update announcement (https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/upcoming-changes-to-several-imdb-features-du6man1opd5q0). After in-depth discussion and examination, we have decided to simplify the features and functionality for reviews as follows:

  • “Your Reviews” are now ordered by Date and reviews on each Title sub page are ordered by Helpfulness.We will continue to update functionality in the new year, starting by bringing back the ability to sort reviews from newest to oldest/oldest to newest. We appreciate your patience as we continue to improve the overall experience.
  • We have removed the Index view. 
  • We updated the way that reviews with spoilers are displayed.
Additionally, on our iOS and Android apps, you can now browse all reviews for a movie or show, as well as see which reviews were voted most helpful. In the next few days we’ll be updating the Review contribution experience, which will be the foundation to enabling mobile users to write and post reviews in the near future. For more information about Reviews, see the IMDbHelp Center.

Updated Jan 12: We've now increased the number of reviews that appear on each page (before clicking Load More) to 20.



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Mark W

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I'm glad that I've been copying and pasting my reviews into a word document so I can alphabetize them properly (with "the" and "A" at the end of the title as opposed to in front of it) and make sure that if reviews are deleted for any reason, I will always have my original saved online in one form or another. After 17 years of review writing, I'd hate to lose my film watching diary. With the abundance of changes, I suggest other writers do the same. This also gives me the opportunity to re-format it with the fonts and size I like and other changes I wish to make. 
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I'll do that and I hope all my reviews are still available.
I think after that, i'll be done with IMDb. I never thought I would say something like that... after 13 years!
That was the last straw, I can't stand it anymore.
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I have 4700+ reviews on this site. This new method SUCKS. I can't see specific reviews unless I go through all of them, I can't see what's useful and what isn't, I can't see the reviews of the prolific authors. I'm done here. And I've been with IMDb for 18 years.
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Pad A

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Totally agree with you , this new update is appalling, suddenly there’s no ability to order your reviews - terrible #imdb :(
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Pad A

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Found the review titled ‘business model’ on bit.ly/Swars2017 very amusing and sums up the new system Well ! http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2527336 - just I case it disappears I’ll paste it below ...
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travisbickle8611 December 2017
10/10
Very pleased with our business model
After the failure of Lucas' prequels, we here at Disney Corp. decided to 'give back' to fans and provide them with exactly what they wanted: old faces in new costumes, lightsabers, big-dogs driving spaceships and all that Sci-fi nonsense.

After the roaring financial success of The Force Awakens, we knew we were onto a winner by following well-researched business models and marketing strategies, which would tick all the boxes for Star Wars fans old and new. The fans ate it up, and myself and all the other shareholders here at Disney Corp. had a wonderful Christmas.

The enormous financial rewards from ticket sales and mechanising has allowed us to acquire more assets and rival studios, so as to reduce the competition from other distributors and film-makers, which could in anyway harm our product. In fact, our enormous power and wealth has allowed us to hire maverick, independent, American film-makers, such as Rian Johnson, with the lure of a vast salary and a side- order of blackmail, in order to make sure the latest product (TLJ) is directed to specification of our glorious leader Kathleen Kennedy.

Fans will want to see this 10/10 masterpiece again and again, so we here at Disney Corp. have made sure that cinema chains will pay a large part of their revenue stream in order to screen The Last Jedi, so that other films don't get in its (your) way.

Merry Christmas and do make sure to visit the gift shop after your fourth viewing!
7 out of 12 found this helpful.
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Maria T Ciaccia

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bravo, travisbickle86!
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John Seal

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I've been doing the same thing. 
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Mark W

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The standard cut and paste replies of concern and "We understand your frustrations" reminds me of the alien's lines in "Mars Attacks!". "Do not run. We are your friends." Because of that, I will continue to write my reviews in an email to myself, copy and paste, and let whatever happens happen as far as this site is concerned. The passion is about enjoying the type of films and TV shows I do, not create a legacy to keep my imdb account alive. Like other users, I collect as well, and nobody can take the memories of my viewing away. Anyone who dares to try to censor what we collect will have a huge fight on their hands.
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I'm afraid I am in the totally negative crowd. This "update" has made it impossible to enjoy the reviews, edit any previous reviews I have written, and literally makes it impossible to even find any of my reviews in an effective way...I believe you have just destroyed any faith that users had in the IMDB review system. To make it even worse, the "Official" platform that you will not go back to the original system, is a killer for me...

Really...???
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_____Same here, Michael.  Loss of sorts & filters and pandering to hit & run handheld owners is what destroyed the value to me of YouTube, 23andMe, and now IMDb as well as, it appears soon, Amazon. 

_____After 20-some years of being an IMDb contributor, it has managed to destroy my satisfaction with the service.

_____I suspected this was coming when the native discussion boards were annihilated.  IMDb began as a fan-based paean to films and stars on BB lists.  The love is gone.  Soon -- a few years at most -- the whole site will crash because core folks won't care.

_____"Those who fail to learn from history are condemned to repeat it." -- GS


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Totally agree with all these sentiments here!
Change for mere changes sake! Awful!
I always made frequent use of both 'Loved' and 'Hated'  (especially when too numerous reviews listed) and 'chronological' was most useful for locating recent compared to first impressions reactions.
Abysmal IMDB.
Plus, does it now mean all reviews are preserved in aspic, no more updating for errors and subsequent relevancies, and the likes etc.
Goose being killed here, methinks.
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clore

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Is "boxoffice/buisiness" now gone for good?
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clore

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I have this link saved and it takes me to a list of the few reviews that I've put up on IMDb. 

Maybe if one tries replacing my user number with their own, it could work for you.

http://www.imdb.com/user/ur1602685/comments
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clore
Is "boxoffice/buisiness" now gone for good?

I have this link saved and it takes me to a list of the few reviews that I've put up on IMDb.
Maybe if one tries replacing my user number with their own, it could work for you.
http://www.imdb.com/user/ur1602685/comments

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Comments / Reviews  link will be on the IMDb Users Profile page


clore_2
IMDb member since February 2002
http://www.imdb.com/user/ur1602685/
http://www.imdb.com/user/ur1602685/comments
now goes to
http://www.imdb.com/user/ur1602685/reviews


https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/announcement-updates-to-box-office-on-imdb-title-pages-imdbp...
We are pleased to announce the release of expanded boxoffice performance available on IMDb title pages including:
•USA gross
•Worldwide gross
•USA opening weekend gross
•Country where the Movie opened (if the first opening was not USA)
•Opening weekend theater Information (Limited or Wide)
•Budget

Additional box office performance of a title including
shooting dates, copyright holder and theatrical rentals
is now available to IMDbPro members.
Posted Dec 5 2017
Daud Lightman, Employee
Joined on December 4, 2017
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/people/daud_lightman



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I am completely devastated by the removal of the option to filter user reviews ... I have always used them, ALWAYS. Congratulations IMDB, you have really stuffed up. If it ain't broke, why "fix" it? I am now wondering if there are other movie sites to migrate to....
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IMDb, you are really PISSING ME OFF!...you took away comments, and now you have taken away the sorting options on user reviews...get your tentacles out of my experience!!!!!!!!
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Wow, the way you have the user reviews set up now, SUCKS BIG TIME!!  

It seems I have to click on almost every review in order to see it since it's
hidden by a "spoiler's warning" link.  Why do we have to do more mouse clicks
then before?  Do you all really think it's an improvement on the end user's
experience having us all do that?

And what's with the ad banner at the top that makes the whole screen pop down 2
inches everytime it loads?  All this does is make pages load slower then they ever did before.  It's distractions like this is why I have to use something like Adblock in order to view the page properly.

I hope you all reconsider these stupid changes.  Time consuming changes for the
sake of change.  

This is not an improvement, unless you plan on driving your users away!
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You are absolutely spot on uncle_fester1, and everybody else who has lambasted this deservedly universally panned and unbelievably selfish (clearly made with only their own needs in consideration and not the users) change. I do feel though that regarding your "plan on driving your users away", I actually think they already have. A lot of people have already threatened to leave the site or are seriously considering doing so, all in a matter of hours. I also am with everybody else who are not buying the excuses for making the change, they just don't make sense to me at all, and that there is much more to it.


The change to pretty much the main thing that's keeping IMDb alive has been easily IMDb's worst and most pointless and they have made many this year alone. The removal of the message boards and the ugly-looking and confusing new format of the user ratings section are also up there but they didn't matter to me as much as the user reviews, which was why I used IMDb in the first place. Another reason as to why that's the case was that they did it without warning, instead it was an abrupt change and a lot have found it an insult. At least with the message board removal they notified us a couple of weeks before.


I myself am a prolific user and reviewer and am reconsidering whether I want to keep using this site or not, my heart, which I nearly always follow,  is to continue but nowhere near as much as I did before. This has been said with a heavy heart, I have been a user for nearly 9 years and have loved it so much and contributing a lot. The new format has been an inconvenience to everybody but it's been especially difficult for the prolific reviewers where years of contributing has gone down the toilet and their accounts are now near-unusable.


 If IMDb don't listen to us and reverse this change, it will be a travesty. As they have been known for being useless at solving problems, especially regarding rigged ratings/false reviews for mainly panned comedies/family films and reviews that violate terms and conditions and are offensively written, I am dubious as to whether they will.


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I like to see if anyone reads any reviews I've written and if they like 'em or not. Now that experience has been removed because you've taken away the lists for useful and chronological. You've also removed the options to see the latest user reviews on films. Now all that's left is "helpful". It is no fun for me look at this site the way it is currently arranged. 
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Absolutely agree. This is the worst change that IMDb has ever made -- even worse than the elimination of comments on movies (although that was pretty bad, too). Their overall attitude appears to be that the users exist for the website and not the other way around. This has been a great site, and every time I log in now, I brace myself for some new "the public be damned" change. Every change makes it a little worse, and calculated to drive away users. Utterly appalling.
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Mark, I totally agree with you. I post reviews almost exclusively to movies with few or no reviews at all now. I do it because movies with hundreds of reviews will lose mine in the mix and be worthless as no one will see it. I look forward to seeing a daily recap (it's a daily ritual) of any likes or dislikes of my work and time.

I too was very upset when comments between members was removed, but this change to the reviews really cuts to the bone on my use of the site. IMDb, if you are seeing any of this, please change this feature back. I can't be scrolling though all my "helpful" reviews just to see if my latest has received any input. This is bad, VERY bad
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In addition there have been numerous reviewers on IMDb that I've read over the years, with some excellent thoughtful posts that rival or exceed what the professionals put out. Good luck finding them now.
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Mark W

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Yes, because IMDb writers are not manipulated by an editor who might be biased to a film before it comes out and tries to control the way their critics think. IMDb writers create their critique out of a passion for the media and view individual works as either pieces of art or absurd trash. While I never allowed another IMDb writer's work to influence my writing, I would often scan reviews of films with minimal comments after writing my own to make sure I wasn't accidentally repeating an entire sentiment on the same piece of work. When I first started writing years ago, I used to get private messages from users either thanking me for reviewing a film that nobody else knew about or writers who pointed something out about a film that I obviously missed. The constructive criticism was very helpful in re-tooling my ideas of how to put my reviews together. I miss those days. I will continue writing, because for me it is like a puzzle where the pieces don't fit together quickly, and in dealing with collectors of rare films, I'm always coming across old works that have not gotten the recognition they deserve or might have been acclaimed in their day and are either really disastrous today or have successfully stood the test of time and are yet forgotten. 
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Mark W

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Frankly the whole situation reminds me of something out of "Zardoz". I'll be looking out for "Fingers" at your suggestion. 
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Zardoz yes, but without hot chicks and art cinematography. Just buffoonery and Connery in underpants.

Got to see Fingers... there's a working torrent...
 Edit... errr... sort of working...
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I had 3,054 reviews. Whatever reasons IMDb people had, their changes are clearly idiotic from our perspective as in-quantity reviewers. My response has been simple. I have deleted every one of my reviews. If more of us did this, it might have an impact on their "thinking".

I felt that in return for my free reviews, I got the gratification from users. As time went on, I found it essential to be able to sort by chronological, alphabetical and user helpfulness. I found the summary lines useful too, as well as the expanded version.

Nothing was broken in this system, and IMDb's blurb doesn't provide any rational clue as to why their simplifications (eliminations) create a better exchange between those of us who fashion these reviews with considerable effort and IMDb itself, which surely benefits from us by drawing traffic to its ads and links.
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Jorge Pancolart

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So true. What is going on with IMDB? I always wanted to see prolific writers reviews! With comments gone and proper independent reviews not being quickly accessible it is becoming simply another promotional site. Come on guys, stop it. 
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Don

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These assholes at Imdb don't give a fuck about the viewers.  What they care about is money.  If people don't read any bad reviews or very few, they will have a tendency to be more favorable in making a purchase at Amazon.  These low life weasles are no better than vampires who just want to suck your blood.  Management is more or less headed by a greedy prick who only sees the bottom line.  Maybe the whole management group of eventual losers (in the long run) should read Peter Drucker's "Management: Tasks, Responsibilities, Practices" and get their heads out of their asses before it's too late.
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I won’t bother with this site anymore since we cannot write reviews or read those from other users. The site has become useless and unhelpful.
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This is absolutely hilarious.. if there are any IMDB execs reading this, you should fire your UX team (if there even is one). They've single-handedly driven up the conversion rate for your competitors.

How on earth is there not even a chronological filter? Not even Facebook, the masterminds of content manipulation, dared take that away from its users. An 8 year old would understand the snowball effect that would skew the oldest reviews in this new "helpfulness" system.

It's ironic, really.. your feedback forum offers more freedom to sort than the actual imdb service. I rate this announcement a 0/10. Fortunately, it's an easy fix. Just restore the filters! Crossing my fingers!! or maybe I'll see y'all soon on Letterboxd! :-)
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Jon D

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This is absolutely hilarious.. if there are any IMDB execs reading this, you should fire your UX team (if there even is one). They've single-handedly driven up the conversion rate for your competitors.

How on earth is there not even a chronological filter? Not even Facebook, the masterminds of content manipulation, dared take that away from its users. An 8 year old would understand the snowball effect that would skew the oldest reviews in this new "helpfulness" system.

It's ironic, really.. your feedback forum offers more freedom to sort than the actual imdb service. I rate this announcement a 0/10. Fortunately, it's an easy fix. Just restore the filters! Crossing my fingers!! or maybe I'll see y'all soon on Letterboxd! :-)
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My suspicion is that the option to sort by chronology will be "introduced" later on. I've no idea what is taking so long, though.
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Clay Loomis

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After joining IMDb and posting reviews for 13 years I am now going to stop. If you have so little respect for your reviewers, you can't expect your reviewers to put in their free time helping you flesh out your site. I don't believe you even considered your reviewers concerns before making these changes.

You show utter contempt for all the people who have invested their time and energy. So much so that you didn't even bother to inform us ahead of time about these changes or ask for our input until after you'd done it. If you were trying to purposely piss off the people who put in so much work for you, you could not have done a better job unless you just deleted the review section entirely (hey, there's a thought).

Congratulations.
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Mark W

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I am not renewing my Amazon Prime when it expires next month, and am simply using it as a research site for films I'm looking for. I'll buy from private sellers on Amazon, eBay and I offer, but I am not going to give a cent to an online merchant who censors internet review sites.
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Mark W

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I am not renewing my Amazon Prime when it expires next month, and am simply using it as a research site for films I'm looking for. I'll buy from private sellers on Amazon, eBay and I offer, but I am not going to give a cent to an online merchant who censors internet review sites.
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Jeorj Euler

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Of untoward things Amazon may have done, censoring IMDb is not one of them.
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Alexander Baron

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I've published well over 600 reviews, which is a lot. Some people have published many more. There appears to be a concensus that the new system is yuk.

I find this particularly annoying since I maintain a bibliography of all my work and now every single url relating to IMDb is invalid. Can something please be done about this? Sadly, I think I know the answer.
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I have written over 250 reviews, and like going over old reviews to see responses to what people think of them (+/-), but I can no longer search as easily as before. the new system is very user unfriendly, only good for those who browse once in a blue moon. 

for regular users it is now impractical. I'm very angry on this.

After 14 yrs on the site, I may sadly now stop posting. It will kill the site. 


I'd like these changes also adapted to the IMDB app on Android, i'd love the user reviews bit to be better for sorting, adding a review and looking at our reviews with responses.

It's what made the site.

Please IMDB, revert back to the old style for online, and please update the Android App to be more like the old IMDB online (and not the other way around).

thank you very much.
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ACT_1

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I have written over 250 reviews,
and like going over old reviews to see responses to what people think of them (+/-),
but I can no longer search as easily as before.
the new system is very user unfriendly,
only good for those who browse once in a blue moon...
After 14 yrs on the site, I may sadly now stop posting...
December 25, 2017 9:53 AM
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Joined on December 25, 2017
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/people/joebloggscity


joebloggscity
IMDb member since October 2003
IMDb Member 14 years
Lifetime Total 250+
http://www.imdb.com/user/ur2790158/
http://www.imdb.com/user/ur2790158/reviews - 275 Reviews
http://www.imdb.com/user/ur2790158/ratings - 1,182 titles


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The subsequent pages to IMDb registered user joebloggscity's Reviews are Page 2, Page 3, Page 4, Page 5, Page 6, Page 7, Page 8, Page 9, Page 10, Page 11, Page 12, Page 13, Page 14, Page 15, Page 16, Page 17, Page 18, Page 19, Page 20, Page 21, Page 22, Page 23, Page 24, Page 25, Page 26, Page 27 and Page 28.

Links to the individual reviews authored thereby are as follows:
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Sdk ElMaruecan

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How do you do that?
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Jeorj Euler

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I use a home brew script to do that. It's not really ready for publication just yet.
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ACT_1

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I use a home brew script to do that.
It's not really ready for publication just yet
by Jeorj Euler
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You could do that page count & list thingy for other Reviewers here
for a small fee ??

Can you add a banner ad for some business
for a small fee ??



I dunno... maybe Amazon



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Jeorj Euler

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I thought about that, ACT_1. The charge would have to be something like 0.01 USD per 100 to-be-downloaded reviews. Interesting.
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Sdk ElMaruecan

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It's a good system, I would pay for it, I'm doing it manually right now, copy-pasting each review and it's such an ungrateful task .... 
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ACT_1

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I thought about that, ACT_1.

The charge would have to be something like 0.01 USD per 100 to-be-downloaded reviews. Interesting.

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Maybe charge 0.01 USD per link ?

275 reviews listed here : $2.75 USD

Links to the individual reviews authored thereby are as follows:
• R-Point (2004): 10 out of 10 found this helpful.

after a few years you coud buy IMDb
and fix some of the new problems here


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMDb
In 1998, Jeff Bezos, founder, owner and CEO of Amazon.com,
struck a deal with Needham and other principal shareholders
to buy IMDb outright for approximately $55 million

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos
Bezos's net worth surpassed $100 billion for the first time on November 24, 2017


 


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Any "Upadte" I read is about removing stuff. Why u do this? I don't understand why u remove so many options to sort/filter or view pages/lists?
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JonDoe

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I already read this and it does not make any sense. I understand that u want to update the software. But why u need to remove all helpfull features? Sorting, filtering or views are very important to all users, removing these features from parts of your page isn't acceptable. And please don't say its not possible to implement a compact view or filter/sorting options in different lists or pages.

For example, you still have the "Refine" options for the watchlist, so why we can not have it for the rating list? Why u want us to go the the advanced search to filter the rating list?

Same for other features. Why can I only sort the edit page from a list by "List order" or "Date added" but not by "Rating, Year, Number of Votes etc.pp"? I want to move specifc movies from list to list, for this I need more sorting options than these two you offer now.

All this was possible and u removed it. Don't u see it that is way more complicated now?
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Jon Doe, thanks for the feedback. The functionalities we currently launched for Lists and Reviews are only the baseline. We plan to add improvements to both features in the coming months.

We very much appreciate the time and effort our customers take to contribute to IMDb. We will certainly take your feedback into consideration for our product plans for Lists and Reviews. 
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Michael Maman

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I like how "software updates" are the excuses used to get rid of all of the useful features that made IMDB good.  Thanks Amazon
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Pad A

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Totally agree I won’t bother writing any more reviews now and my latest one isn’t even there !? :(
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Matt Gibbs

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Yep I'm done too Pad A. No more reviews for me. This site has really gone downhill. Without filters it's far less worth visiting. I'll still visit occasionally but not everyday like I did. Shame. 
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Here's the thing. We have seen this before. Companies make changes and strip out all the features you like, and then say, "we'll be adding back features over time." And then THEY DON'T. I am as hopeful for a return of proper filtering for user reviews as I am for Trump to release his tax returns.

If people sound skeptical, it's because they are not newbies, and they know how big corporations work.
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Another thought. A lot of the reason for skepticism is the lack of specificity. If IMDB said, here are the features we plan to reintroduce, and here is our timetable, then we could both be more confident that something may change and be aware of where to focus our complaints, since we'd know which features you've decided to kill for good.
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Maria T Ciaccia

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Clore, we know that link and it doesn't work for those of us who have more than a few reviews. 
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clore

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I'm sorry to hear that, just trying to be helpful.
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CA

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This is about censorship. Youtube already stripped features. They want us not to be able to communicate or know other peoples opinions... except "experts" of course. This is totally about an Orwellian society.
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Jeorj Euler

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CA, you're looking at a big picture that is so big that it is beyond most people's constitutions. In addition, you may or may not turn out to be correct. Even the people fighting against censorship will have to make sacrifices. They have before, and they will continue to do so.
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Switch to letterboxd, problem solved. If IMDB doesn't respect their users, I'm out.
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John Saltwell

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I'm very disappointed with the changes to the display of reviews. As others have pointed out, many of the very useful features that we used constantly have been removed! When deciding whether to watch a film I always like to read reviews with the highest and the lowest ratings to see what people liked and disliked about a film: I can no longer do that.

Please restore the facility to sort reviews by rating or date as soon as possible.
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Jeorj Euler

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I'm afraid that "as soon as possible" may be January or February, of 2018.
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WhippleZipple

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AAAHHH!!!  Why is IMDB so committed to becoming less useful? First they removed the forums (super useful, but ok people are jerks so maybe that was too much of a headache), but now I can't sort the user reviews?  IMDB is basically worthless to me without that facility -- I use it all the time!  So yeah, I guess I will be using letterboxd primarily now.  THIS IS TERRIBLE.  Cosmetics is one thing, why take away features?  And if you are planning on bringing them back as part of some "makeover", why don't you actually do that work FIRST instead of ruining the site for however many months that is going to take?  I never understand why sites are so gung-ho about rolling out "features" before they are finished with them...
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WhippleZipple

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Also, as frequent reviewers have pointed out, why in the world would anyone want to leave a review now since no one will ever see it?  If reviews are ONLY sorted by "helpfulness" (the least useful/interesting category for my money) then how will a new review ever BECOME helpful since it will never be at the top where anyone can vote it so?  This is Christmas time, NOT April Fool's Day.  How staggeringly stupid this is!
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Sdk ElMaruecan

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That's the problem, generally, it takes times for my reviews to be rated as helpful or not, but when it's a movie that has just been released or only a few months ago, it's a matter of days, even hours, before it's voted helpful (or not) by a few or many users.

Yesterday, I just reviewed a movie released during the Awards seasons and it's still at 0 user found it helpful out of 0, which was impossible with the old system. Never mind the first 0, but the "out of" part should feature a higher number, if it doesn't, that only means no one read the review because it was too recent to ever compete with the few hundreds that had time to be voted helpful. As simple as that.

So I trust IMDb reps when they say they'll fix the problem because otherwise, it's totally counter-productive, if you don't review the film as soon as it gets released, there's no need to review it ever, unless it's an obscure/unknown movie with a few reviews in the first place. This reviewing format doesn't encourage writing reviews, which is the height of intelligence-insulting contradiction.

Let's hope we'll have the old format back, or something close enough.
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Jeorj Euler

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"0 out of 0" is neutral., and it doesn't necessarily mean that nobody read a review that has such a stat. Some reviews are simply neither "helpful" nor non-"helpful", as in neither liked nor disliked.
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WhippleZipple

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There is also the thing that I don't care whatsoever about "helpful" reviews (although being able to downvote abusive or ranting non-reviews so they go away is good) -- if the one change they made was getting rid of "helpfulness" I doubt I would have noticed.  I want to see a cross-section of reviews, I want to see the worst reviews & best reviews especially (if I could click on each star rating like on Amazon, that's cool), also most recent, or sometimes even corresponding with a certain time period.  I am mainly looking at older or art/foreign films where there aren't a billion reviews (but are still plenty enough that I need a comprehensible way to browse them).  Actually there seems to be a "war on organized browsing" in general.  On all the streaming sites you can't look at anything in a structured way anymore (or never could) -- they just throw a bunch of titles at you in random order.  That's another rant...
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Sdk ElMaruecan

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I know but in a span of seven years, whenever I reviewed a recent movie, the score ceased to be 'neutral' very quickly
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Stefan Vrachev

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So is this the reason that IMDb dos not allow to chose the reviews order? 
That is so lame. What if I want to see positive and negative reviews?
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Bob Jackson

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I agree with Stefan. Before this option was foolishly removed, I used it every single time. It was easy, quick and a pleasure to use. It was also very entertaining.
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If we buy a blu ray or go to the theatre, some of us want to know what others are saying. If we wasted money, it's comforting to read bad reviews. Scrolling through bad reviews helps us spot an opinion close to ours.
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Fred Versteeg

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I totally agree with everyone here. I liked reading some 'hated it' and some 'loved it' reviews. It gives a better idea of a movie or tv-show than people who gave it a 5 or 6 out of 10. Now I can't use this option anymore. 
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Fred Versteeg

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I totally agree with everyone here. I liked reading some 'hated it' and some 'loved it' reviews. It gives a better idea of a movie or tv-show than people who gave it a 5 or 6 out of 10. Now I can't use this option anymore. 
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They remove the message boards. They remove the option to message other IMDB users and now they are forcing us to read only the reviews that they want us to read. 
 What's next?
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Frazer Caird

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I am extremely concerned about this. I have contributed 1700 user reviews to this database and now I cannot access them unless I scroll through my whole list, page by page, which I seriously doubt my coputer will handle and will take absolutley ages every single time. I have in effect, lost access to hundreds of reviews I have contributed to your database. Whereas up until an hour ago, I could directly access any review I had written using the minimised view, now I cannot! I just simply can't be expected scroll through hundred of reviews every time to eventually reach the one I am looking for surely? Also, by no longer being able to see the number of helpful/unhelpful tags your reviews have amassed is disastrous and honestly takes away any motivation to carry on submitting reviews. Not only this but with the current layout, where is the motivation to submit  new review if it is going to wind up on page 10 of the 'sorted by helpfulness' system to literally never be seen by anyone ever again? With popular or recent movies, this is going to be particularly bad.

I hope you will be able to find a compromise so that reviewers can directly access their hard work, as we have spent a HUGE amount of time composing our reviews for your website. As things currently stand, there simply will be no point carrying on submitting reviews if I cannot even access them properly or if they are to be buried in a place no one is ever going to see. I say this with a very heavy heart after fifteen years of doing this time consuming activity. I ask you to please find a compromise workaround for your faithful reviewers.
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sv, Official Rep

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Frazer Caird, you should be able to see the helpful/unhelpful vote count for each of your reviews on your reviews page (www.imdb.com/user/<YourUserID>/reviews) as well as on the user reviews page for each title you submitted a review for. Are you not seeing that?
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Joel Walsh, Employee

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Understood, Frazer, and it is something that we'll improve upon in the coming months. We appreciate all the time and effort our IMDb customers put into their content and reviews, and are taking this feedback to heart.
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Frazer Caird

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Joel Walsh - thanks for acknowleding but there's honestly no point in submitting any further reviews until this is fixed. It is that disastrous.
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Maria T Ciaccia

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that link didn't work for me and I tried it four times. The whole thing is useless. I'm out.
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Joel Walsh, Employee

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To clarify, Maria, your user Id should begin with a "ur" followed by 8 numbers. It's the same link that's in the right-hand column of your profile under the "Quick Links" heading and named "Reviews".
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Maria T Ciaccia

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it doesn't matter, I've lost interest in the whole thing. What an insult.
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Frazer Caird

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Maria T Ciaccia - the link is completely useless in any case. It (a) only shows the last 10 you have written (b) you have to continually scroll 10 at a time to see your other reviews, which is ludicrous (c) it only goes as far as 180 reviews in any case (d) only allows you to sort by date not by helpfulness, meaning you now never know when a review of yours has been given a useful tick.
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Maria T Ciaccia

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actually I was there already, I just didn't realize it. It's horrible across the board. I want to be able to see a list of my reviews, just the titles, and be able to show them chronologicallly, alphabetically, according to rating. and according to usefulness.  I also want to see what is useful and what prolific reviewers have said about a certain film. This is hideous.  A lovely hobby ruined. First you used to be able to contact like-minded reviewers, and they took that away, along with the message boards. And now this. Not worth it.
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Frazer Caird

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Maria T Ciaccia - if you don't mind me asking, what is your user ID?
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Pad A

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Totally agree - What on earth has gone on with IMDB ?
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Maria T Ciaccia

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Frazier Caird, don't mind at all - blanche-2 - http://www.imdb.com/user/ur0342623/reviews - I have a lot of television in the most recent at the moment.
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Frazer Caird

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Ah, yeah, I knew I would know the name! Such an own goal that a specialist such as yourself is going to be forced away because of these ill advised changes though :(
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Maria T Ciaccia

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you're kind - give me yours! I'd love to read some of them.
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Frazer Caird

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You are very welcome.

I am Red-Barracuda http://www.imdb.com/user/ur1616919/reviews?order=useful

Its a bit of a mixed bag it has to be said.
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Maria T Ciaccia

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excellent reviews, very eclectic. Of course I can't go through all of them. Wondering if you saw A Man Escaped, which is French. Wonderful film. Sorry to post here, know it's off-topic.
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Pater Tenebrarum

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This is simply awful - without the filters the reviews pages have essentially become useless to me. I simply don't have the time to look manually for what I am searching for - not to mention that I really don't need any third parties to decide on my behalf what is "helpful". This site keeps getting worse (by removing ever more useful features people liked). As an aside, the reasoning/ justification supplied is really hard to believe. How can leaving such a feature in place possibly represent a technical problem? This is absurd. 
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Pater Tenebrarum

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From the original announcement: "In the process, we are continuing to make customer experience improvements, feature simplifications to improve usability..."
This is almost Orwellian. Was it really necessary to sully the perfectly useful term "improvement"  by associating it with these changes?
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What have we lost by ditching the sort utility on user reviews?

1) You're making it easier to game the ratings system: just post positive shill reviews, then like them multiple times and bump them to the top of the list.

2) I use the chronological sort feature all the time, to catch up with recent reviews I haven't read before and to compare reviews, say, from the first seasons of a TV show to later seasons, or reactions to a production before and after a major development. For instance, I just went to the entry for "The Room" to see if there were any interesting new reviews since the release of "The Disaster Artist." Nope. Can't sort by date posted.

3) I can't tell you how many hours of entertainment I've derived from going to a film or TV show's reviews and just clicking "hated it." Strong emotions can be a powerful stimulus to self-expression and some of the pans on this site are SCREAMINGLY hilarious, even when I actually like the production itself.


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I am so aggravated w/ IMDb. Why do they keep screwing around with things so badly? They took away the Comments (which made for lively discussion) instead of dealing with the obvious troll posters.

NOW they take away the option of browsing through reviews the way YOU want to see them. Perhaps I want to see all the "10" views or all the "1's" to understand why someone either loved or despised a particular film. No more...that option's gone.

I have had it w/ the current regime. Like our worthless government, they do the exact opposite of what people want. Is there even a point to IMDb anymore if this rotten trend of uselessness continues? >(
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Cristobal

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I'm with you Leo! I was so pissed about them removing the comments section that I vowed to use Vudu instead of Amazon Instant ever more. The problem is that IMDB started out as a sight for movie lovers ... yet has evolved into a sight to promote movies (for profit)  ... and most recently a site to promote Amazon Instant Video ...  who now owns IMDB. Thus said the sight no longer caters to movie loves but Amazon profits!      
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Totally agree, going on imdb immediately after watching a terrible movie and reading all the hated it reviews was one of my favourite guilty pleasures, and imdb have now taken it away. This is censorship. "You will only be able to view reviews that we want you to". This only makes me not want to read user reviews anymore. I never ever read most helpful or liked because as others have said, usually the reviews I like best are buried in the one of the filters, such as new ones (found with chronological sorting), hated it, find a friend etc. Sifting through hundreds of reviews per title to find the type of review you're looking for is impossibly tedious and time consuming and I simply won't do it.
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Shoebox

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Totally agree, going on imdb immediately after watching a terrible movie and reading all the hated it reviews was one of my favourite guilty pleasures, and imdb have now taken it away. This is censorship. "You will only be able to view reviews that we want you to". This only makes me not want to read user reviews anymore. I never ever read most helpful or liked because as others have said, usually the reviews I like best are buried in the one of the filters, such as new ones (found with chronological sorting), hated it, find a friend etc. Sifting through hundreds of reviews per title to find the type of review you're looking for is impossibly tedious and time consuming and I simply won't do it.
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fung0

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Absolutely agree. I've posted over 130 reviews, and the recent changes guarantee I'll stop posting, and possibly stop referring to IMDb entirely. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
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Guilherme Simões Reis

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Users' reviews cannot be accessed/read sepparately anymore! Now even the individual review links do not work anynore! I used to put the link to my personal review of the films I included in my links. It is unbelievable how IMDB worsened everything! A real shame!
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Alexander Mishkov

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Agreed.
I had built the habit to always read the spoiler free negative user reviews here before watching some movies. Finding out what people complained about helped me a lot. For example, before I saw 'Casino Royale' a long time ago, I read some negative reviews describing as something that James Bond movies aren't supposed to be. At that time I really didn't like James Bond, so I, of course, saw the movie and loved it. I want to be able to find out if a franchise movie has problems with the continuity or with the development of the characters from the previous installments - and professional critics actually don't provide this information in a way that is helpful to me. Fans/geeks do, which is why when I found out about IMDb a decade and a half ago, I thought it was the greatest site ever. Now the filters are gone and...

Also, the system, as it is now, reduces the amount of times people will read reviews written by someone like me - because I rarely, if ever, review a major blockbuster within the week of its release and, as a result, when I finally do, what I've written will be buried under hundreds or even thousands of reviews, with no chance of getting enough upvotes to make it stand out.
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Jeorj Euler

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Hi, Guilherme Simões Reis. It would seem that there are new links for individual reviews now. Every review on the entire site has its own unique key which is comprised of the string "rw" followed by decimal digits.
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hueyspot

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So now Amazon owns IMDB. that explains a lot. Amazon is like a cross between a leech crossed with a lady of the evening.  I just tried to scroll through one of my favourite reviewers posts and my computer crawled so slowly after a while it was apparent the life was being sucked out of it.
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hueyspot

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So now Amazon owns IMDB. that explains a lot. Amazon is like a cross between a leech crossed with a lady of the evening.  I just tried to scroll through one of my favourite reviewers posts and my computer crawled so slowly after a while it was apparent the life was being sucked out of it.
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Antonia Tejeda Barros

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I completely agree! Now the review system is a total disaster!
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Eve Talbot

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This is the worst thing IMDB has done, it makes a mockery of the review system. 

I don't want to see reviews by tom dick and harry, I want to see reviews by the highest contributers. Now all I am seeing reviews by are some knuckle head fan boys. 

Waste of time this site has become and is just a propaganda push to earn more money for Hollywood rather than provide us with reviews on some decent films without the review from some moronic teen who " doesn't get it " 
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Jon Sieruga

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I have over 5000 reviews at IMDb and I will never use this site again unless it returns to the more useful format. "We changed", "we decided", "we like it". What about us?
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Frazer Caird

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Jon - I have tested this and you can scroll back a maximum of I beleive 200 reviews, so you will have lost access to over 4,500 reviews with this change. I have lost access to 1,500. I am flabbergasted!
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Michael Maman

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"We" don't count. Only IMDB (Amazon) decides for us now.
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Joel Walsh, Employee

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Frazer - There is a "load more" button at the end of the first set which will get you the next set. We recognize this isn't ideal for long lists of reviews, but assure you that everything is still accessible and nothing is lost.
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Mark W

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I feel for those who have many reviews, especially the top reviewers who are in the ten's of thousands. Once they announced that they were getting rid of the message boards, a flag went up for me that said, "Reviews could be next." I started copying and pasting from A to Z to a word document, and now I update them on a weekly basis which includes a spreadsheet of titles, the date I reviewed them, and my individual rating. In fact, I was in the process of updating when I noticed the change. I am hoping that the entire listing for each reviewer returns in one way or another. Obviously, the editors do not realize the importance of IMDB to its users, especially to those of us "oldies" who have been around since before the turn of the millennium.  I loved being able to sort either alphabetically or chronologically, and even though I had things copied and pasted, I would often refer to it as confirmation of whether or not I had reviewed a title before. 
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Frazer Caird

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Joel - I have tested it, I only goes back about 200 reviews and then there is no 'load more' option. I have 1,700 reviews.

But really, the overall issue is that this would be an awful way for us to access our reviews even if it did work. I mean how long do you reckon it would take to scroll back through 1,700 reviews? A long laborious time that's for sure and there are other people with way, way more than me.
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sv, Official Rep

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Mark W, thanks for the feedback. We recognize that the pagination and sorting options aren't ideal for those with many reviews. We will take this feedback into account for improving User Reviews. 
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Mark W

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Another issue is keeping track of reviews which have been deleted. The option of keeping an eye on certain activities, such as reviews which have been deleted, is gone as well. I would hate to think that reviews can be deleted without us even being aware of it, when sometimes just the change of a word or a line can fix whatever offence was supposedly in there. I'm sure there are reviewers who would like to send the link of a certain review they've written to a friend, and when it is mysteriously gone, that can create a lot of frustration. I understand that change is sometimes necessary for advancements, but as I've read over the past week of other changes (such as the reviews listed above the credit information and the review link at the bottom of the page) have created no shortage of aggravation for many.  
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Jon Sieruga

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This is truly the day IMDb died. I hope one day to check in and see that it has returned to its former glory.
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Jon Sieruga

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This is truly the day IMDb died. I hope one day to check in and see that it has returned to its former glory.
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Jon Sieruga

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I discovered IMDb on Dec. 31, 2000, after getting my first computer for Christmas that year. My first review was for "Lady in Cement". Since then I have contributed 5340 reviews to IMDb. Today's changes totally and completely threw me and a lot of other users under the bus. I have never been particularly well treated by the folks at IMDb; when I've had problems with stalkers hitting "no" on every review I posted, I never got any help from them, but I didn't expect this! Total disregard for its user base.
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Pad A

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Well said - would love to read your reviews
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AllThatGlitters

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What??? I cant believe IMDB just screwed us out of "loved it", "hated it" options in the filters section. Thats how I always liked to see the reviews of a movie to see if I might like it. 
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Tab L. Uno

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My heart goes out to you. 

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john

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Surely you can't be that naive to think that removing the "loved it" and "hated it" filters was an accident? IMDB (or rather - Amazon.com) is tracking everything that goes on here,  and when users got angry at actors for getting too political, user forums got deleted. Then, when users got smart and noticed that it was easier to tell if a film is any good by reading negative reviews rather than positive ones (which are obviously bought and sold), the filter was removed.
Get real: IMDB is not for film fans or pros, it is strictly a marketing tool for Amazon studios and their clients. You don't matter one but.
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Ah, you say IMDb is owned by the same company that deleted all the one star reviews of Hillary Clinton's latest book?  Ok, NOW I understand.
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Snoopies622 .

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Ah, you say IMDb is owned by the same company that deleted all the one star reviews of Hillary Clinton's latest book?  Ok, NOW I understand.
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Maria T Ciaccia

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Jon Sieruga - I wasn't able to comment under your name. I am surprised by this latest change even though I, too, was stalked, threatened, and read horrible things that were said about me by a member throughout IMDb. IMDb did nothing even when I was forced to write them a letter when contact online yielded nothing. And, if I'm not mistaken, you or someone else contacted me about your reviews being hit with "no" on all reviews and asking me if I was going through the same thing - either you or another reviewer. So thinking back, I guess the users don't matter very much to IMDb. I'm disappointed.
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Mark Grindberg

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Maybe the managers at IMDb saw reviews as expendable, that if you submit a review you understand the management at IMDb can do anything they want with it.
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John Seal

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I seem to recall that, by signing IMDb's terms of service, our reviews become the property of IMDb/Amazon. I have always made copies of my reviews in case IMDb chose to exercise their legal right to remove or destroy them. 
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Jeorj Euler

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Well, when you submit for publication a movie review that is yours to submit it is a gift to the IMDb company, the publisher. However, you are afforded the option, thus far, to remove this type of submission, and the company will honor your wishes. In addition, the company does not make demands of or petition for court orders against subscribers who share the same swaths of texts created by themselves on other sites. So, your reviews are basically yours. (Note: The same does not apply to certain other kinds of contribution.) Anyway, indeed publisher has the right to discontinue publication for arbitrary reason. Technically they are not even under any obligation (save for a few internal contracts for which equity is involved) to provide the service that is IMDb altogether. It's very much like how you and I can quit from most jobs at will, without fear of being sued, fined, jailed or tried (convicted, and subsequently imprisoned, beaten or executed). IMDb is not our slave.
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Jeorj Euler

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Well, when you submit for publication a movie review that is yours to submit it is a gift to the IMDb company, the publisher. However, you are afforded the option, thus far, to remove this type of submission, and the company will honor your wishes. In addition, the company does not make demands of or petition for court orders against subscribers who share the same swaths of texts created by themselves on other sites. So, your reviews are basically yours. (Note: The same does not apply to certain other kinds of contribution.) Anyway, indeed publisher has the right to discontinue publication for arbitrary reason. Technically they are not even under any obligation (save for a few internal contracts for which equity is involved) to provide the service that is IMDb altogether. It's very much like how you and I can quit from most jobs at will, without fear of being sued, fined, jailed or tried (convicted, and subsequently imprisoned, beaten or executed). IMDb is not our slave.
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Zoli_B

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Jeorj Euler: Great strawman argument. Nobody here says that IMDb doesn't have the right to change its own site. They absolutely have the right to do whatever they want. That doesn't mean that we who have been using this site for years, or even decades, cannot express our thoughts and feelings about the changes. IMDb, up until now, was a place where I could read the opinions of other people (not only professional critics) about movies I liked or hated, and others could read my opinions about certain movies. Now, with all these changes, IMDb took away this opportunity. Reviews that they decide to upvote will be available, others will be buried. What made IMDb fun and worth visiting on a daily basis is gone. 
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CA

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Shhh. (((Orwelll)))
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Jeorj Euler

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I don't understand the idea behind addressing a supposed "strawman argument" with exactly a strawman argument. Inasmuch, I doubt that this exchange of words will be able to move forward. I seem to be misunderstood. Good luck, nevertheless.
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Stephen MacLeod

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shut up Jeorj
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Jeorj Euler

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Sure, sure. Whatever will make you happy, man.
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WesIsaLeo .

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Yeah, what about you, one of the many who make IMDb a viable site?

Your views and ideas obviously mean nothing. The site belongs to people who would provide a background of bright pink and retina-damaging yellow if users asked for something that wouldn't make their eyes pop every time they visited. >(
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Mark Grindberg

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I just visited the IMDb site. They haven't changed anything back. They still only have reviews listed by "helpfulness". Everyone will have dumped the site by the time the promised alterations are put in place. If they ever are.
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Jeorj Euler

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We might be waiting as long the day before April Fools' day, aka the end of Q1.
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Michael Black

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Frankly, I am beginning to believe that all these claims about fine tuning, and caring about our concerns are just lip service...if they really have the IT crew they claim to, it simply does not take this long to physically make the changes...
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Frazer Caird

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sv - I am afraid that URL solution doesn't work at all. It points me to the new system, the one with no helpful/unhelpful votes and the one where you can only see the last ten reviews you have written.
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sv, Official Rep

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Frazer, the helpful/unhelpful votes are there on  "your reviews" page, but are somewhat hidden for reviews that are lengthy. If you click on the button to expand the review item, you will be able to see the voting details "x out of y found this helpful."

I agree it is not ideal to have to expand each review to see the votes details and have passed on the feedback to the relevant team. 
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Frazer Caird

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Its definitely not ideal, its atrocious. I sincerely hope our feedback is listened to, as I, and others, have no alternative but to cease submitting reviews as things stand. All we need is a single index where we can access our work from. As much as the changes to the ratings and lists pages have been frustrating, this issue is considerably worse, as it has effectively made the work of many experienced contributers unaccessible overnight which, when you consider all the effort we put in to a detailed activity such as this and which is to the benefit of the database, is a highly disatisfying situation. Joel Walsh mentioned that it may be fixed in a few months which in effect means we have a very long time to wait before we can access our reviews again.
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Pad A

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Please take all this on board IMDB and revert to the original
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CA

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They don't care because IMDB official hates us. They took away discussions first, now this. The whole point is to create an artificial echo chamber where they decide which movie gets what review, while we "dumb" masses submit to their god-awful concencus.
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CA

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Oh and make sure to switch to TMDB if they don't go back to the old functionality. Great site, but needs more people.
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Mark W

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I've been checking on it on occasion since they got rid of message boards. I have decided to go there and post reviews and see what happens. If you sign up, check your Spam E-Mail for verification. Nothing will suppress freedom of speech and expression. Nothing!
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Jeorj Euler

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Indeed, all kinds of things that are not spam occasionally wind up being flagged as spam.
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fung0

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Thanks for the tip, CA! Looks TMDb will be my new go-to reference for video, and the site I'll recommend to anyone else.

Is there anything stopping us from reposting all our old reviews on TMDb... where people might actually be able to read them?
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John Seal

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No, but be aware that your reviews are legally the property of IMDb/Amazon. It's unlikely but not inconceivable that legal action may be taken to prevent users from 'recycling' their reviews elsewhere. 
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Jeorj Euler

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This company doesn't make an exclusive claim to users' reviews, only the right to display them on the site, provided that the corresponding account owners' do not make use of the review deletion tool at will. Non-review contributions are treated a bit differently, but sometimes the company will remove a contributor's content if he/she asks for that.
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Michael Maman

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This is beyond terrible. You have to scroll through all reviews now? I used to sort by "best"/chronological, "loved it", "hated it" ALL THE TIME.  What is IMDB doing? Are you just trying to destroy everything that made IMDB good? First the forums, then character filmographies, now the rating system?  Why do many companies seem to abide by the adage: "If it works, BREAK It"?"
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Pad A

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Totally Agree:) 10/10
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gemp

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Reviews are now totally useless, destroyed after all the other features mentioned by Michael. That might be the last straw.
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john

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They are trying to hide the fact that bad movies get good reviews anyway. You will have a hard time finding out that a film sucks when you cannot filter out reviews.
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Mike Barrowman

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I've just spent nearly an hour trying to figure out why I can't sort through people's reviews -- I can only see 'Ordered By: Helpfulness'.  You mean to tell me that this is the only choice - I have to scroll through the whole list to see recent reviews now?  How will anything new ever get voted on to be in the top of the helpfulness list?  This is crazy.  And completely useless as a rating system.

Also what happened to the easy to read yellow stars - now it is just a number eg 8/10 with one yellow star?  Is this permanent?
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John Bulcovic

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I just registered here for the sole purpose of voicing my outrage at the changes that were just implemented.

The option to order reviews by "hated" was extremely useful to find out whether movies were any good - I used it ALL THE TIME. "Order by helpfullness", which is now the only possible sort order is actually pretty useless rather than helpfull. At the VERY LEAST bring the sort order options back!

I suppose with the current corporate owners this dumbing down and disregarding its user base in favor of short sighted corporate interests was just a matter of time. If IMDB does not respect our opinion as content creators and users, I say the only option we have is to delete all our reviews. The honest reviewers are what made IMDB amazing, without them it is nothing.
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Stewart Jarvis-Grove

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Totally agree too. I used to use the love/hate filter every day and miss it already
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Barry

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yes it is TERRIBLE. chronological was SUCH a useful function. IMDb -- asleep at the wheel. will have to find another venue to browse popular opinion on film. too bad, it was good while it lasted.
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Bob Mankelow

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Once again the 13-year old geeks who don't get out enough have struck. Previously, it was fairly easy to work out what was happening. We looked up the cheap, independent horror movie and wondered why it had such a high rating. We read the first few reviews which gave it glowing praise and full marks, ignored them because they were obviously written by family and friends of the filmmakers; went to 'hated it' and read the real reviews. Now, the fake reviews can be marked as 'helpful' by the other members of the clan and we are left even more in the dark. Tell you what guys, just keep throwing ads at us and concentrate on trying to make as much money as possible, meanwhile, if it ain't broke... 
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Mark Norman

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Take a look at the user reviews page for the latest Star Wars movies. You'll find the result is the opposite of what's been predicted ... all the top reviews are the "hated it" reviews.
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Jeorj Euler

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Either which way, there is a severe deficit of prolific authors. 98% of the reviews on the site are garbage and always were, and now the company has made it astronomically harder to sort out that garbage.
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Jeorj Euler

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Well, exactly.
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WesIsaLeo .

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Because `Murica!

IMDb's Doublethinktank strikes again. Had it w/ this pointless site, now.
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fung0

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Some films have had thousands of reviews. Who's going to "load more" that many times? The new system guarantees that no one will look at MOST of the reviews.  Idiotic. Pointless to post reviews, pointless to read reviews.

From best movie site to completely unusable site in one boneheaded move. Nice work!
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Bob Jackson

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Exactly right, bring back the options.
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Donald Mears

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The removal of User Reviews sort options makes User Reviews mostly useless.   I always sorted on "Loved it/Hated it" to get an overview of the the best and worst viewpoints on a film.  I do not care at all which reviews are the most popular.
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58ppatrik

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OMG I love it! IMDB turns material and it is better and better... 
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CA

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Ahhh Jeff Bezos. Because you know you're a genius when you want America to be like North Korea.
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Jeorj Euler

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The North Korean regime prides itself on its self-sufficiency. The things that it has worked to achieve (like having a patriotic population and relatively crime-free realm) since the dusk of World War II came at a heavy cost (tyranny what not). Can we really believe that one of America's top business leaders doesn't understand this? The man has to deal with all the competitors who think roughly the same way as he does. It's kind of sad that is so hard to "make a difference."
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Sdk ElMaruecan

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Cut-and-paste from a previous thread, here's what I've got to say:

That sucks, that reaaaaaally sucks!!! Shame on you! Reviewing movies meant a lot to me on a personal level and you had to spoil that too!

I'm sorry but I love IMDb, I don't think I should prove it by now, and I've always tried to suppress my anger when I learned about these so-called 'upgrading' measures (much more downgrading if you asked me) I stayed quiet when they shut down the daily poll board, I was pretty upset when they removed the message boards, but I tried to look at the bright side of things which was: I still had my reviews.

Reviewing movies was my most defining and intellectually-challenging activity dedicated to IMDb. I wrote about 1200 reviews, at home, at work, during train travels, I got hooked to it but I enjoyed it. But if THAT ranking system had existed 6 years ago, I don't think it would have encouraged me,

indeed, I loved the way you could check every once in a while your old reviews, figure out which ones have been rated as useful, which didn't (so you could improve them), it's a work on an epic proportion and perhaps one of the most valuable contributions in terms of hours of labor and without even being paid for it, we did it because we loved it. Again, on a personal level.

So for all the changes that affected IMDb, the reviews' page remained the same, it was like the "last untouchable sanctuary"... until today! Even the reviews had to undergo some trendy trick... What is with IMDb's habit to fix non-broken things? everytime something changes, it's not for the best. Whoever thought that "malfunction" of a page would work fine for reviews knows absolutely nothing about reviewing and the level of dedication of IMDb users!

I was an IMDb afficionado for as long as we could review movies but with that new "look", I don't even feel like reviewing, I don't even feel like watching a film or anything, I feel like I wasted my time, plain and simple. Or maybe IMDb is sending signals to the most dedicated fans, a message that says: "get a life, buddy! and if you're not a movie professional, don't dedicate much time to movies or this website, you'll always be treated like a schmuck".

Well, I feel like a schmuck and I'm really disappointed!
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Mark W

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I feel exactly the same. 4500 reviews and counting, and I'm not even close to the top reviewer. That isn't my goal, however, it's my diary of movie watching and my gift to other classic movie lovers out there. I would love when I'd discover a classic "B" film which not only didn't have any reviews, but didn't have a rating either. Writing reviews and movie watching is one of many hobbies I have, but it was a very important one. I would feel like my reviews were useless if I just were to write them for myself and keep them in a computer file. It would be like a dancer being told to keep it in the living room rather than try to go onto the stage. We have these passions because they are an essence of who we are as people, and to utilize our creativity in one aspect or another is a very important human quality. I'm sure I could easily start copying and pasting my reviews to another film review site or create my own website, but that takes time and money and after 17 years of writing, to see it all go into the garbage can is really a sad reality to face. Times are changing, but certain freedoms need to remain, otherwise we regress as a species. I'll be monitoring closely the activity on IMDB and my account, otherwise I too might search for my passion for analyzing film elsewhere. 
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An excellent point, Mark, and we have many passionate IMDb users like you. We hope that as we improve on this new functionality baseline, we can retain the faith you have put in us, and reviews functionality once again matches expectation.
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Sdk ElMaruecan

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Yes, Mark. It was more than a hobby for me, reviewing was integral to the process of watching a film, I could watch it a second time and appreciate even more (or less) before sharing my personal experience and try to make it as useful or insightful as possible. This new format doesn't reward our efforts anymore.

i spoke from the bottom of my heart because right now, I feel like something that has structured my time for 6 years can no longer be ... even if I wanted to copy-paste all my reviews just in case "something happens", I can't... you can't have access to the old ones, and you can't order them by helpfulness.

I hope it's only a temporary problem, but I think that's the way it is and will be...

I spent three years suggesting polls when IMDb had the daily board and last year, we've been told that the links that were archived since 1999 didn't work anymore, the 'history' section became useless after 13 years of existence, it was like hours and hours of work totally wasted, I moved forward because I thought reviews were more "substantial" and intellectually viable.

And now, history just repeated itself... I think those who make these changes really underestimate the level of dedication of some users, otherwise, why not just asking us about these changes? or warning us? I don't understand why things have to go downhill like this.

I expect nothing anymore, all I want is to be able to copy-paste my 1232 reviews somewhere.

Cheers to all the Top reviewers! This is a sad day for all of us.
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Frazer Caird

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Sdk ElMaruecan - sadly, we are no longer valued mate.
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Mark W

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Yes, being able to expand all the reviews is very important, especially if you want to copy and paste them. Opening one review at a time is ridiculous. I did one page at a time, and with 4500 reviews had over 1000 pages to get through. Then came the tribulation of alphabetizing them and getting rid of the info I didn't need (how many helpful notifications, also dealing with changes in microsoft world. They are another issue altogether with their unnecessary changes. But yes, it is a passion more than just a hobby, and on rare occasions, I do go back to films I've already reviewed. But for the most part, I watch films I discover I haven't reviewed as of yet, and I'll forward my review onto friends and they'll send theirs onto me. I am hoping based on moderator responses that they will address the issues brought up in the 8 hours since this occurred. 
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Rodrigo Amaro

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Exactly! IMDb really messed up with almost everything in 2017, so many changes and none of them helped us out in any way. But this one with the reviews was the last straw. It makes me wonder: do they want us to stay here, using their services or it's just a way to makes us leave here for good? Writing my reviews was one of my greatest hobbies and challenges I had in life as a cinephile, now looks like if they don't restaure the old format, I won't be here anymore.
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john

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I've been using IMDB since 1996, way before most people knew about it. It was started by a few enthusiasts back then, and it was brilliant. Then amazon bought it, and you only need to read a bit about corporate "culture" at amazon to understand what is going on. In a nutshell - users are not important to IMDB. Amazon has reached a point where you as a user have no choice but to buy from them, so they don't care whether you are happy or not.
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Pater Tenebrarum

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I would also point out, far fewer people will now see your reviews - speaking as a consumer of reviews rather than a contributor, without the filters I'm no longer interested. It's simply too tedious now to wade through this stuff. 
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Pater Tenebrarum

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I would also point out, far fewer people will now see your reviews - speaking as a consumer of reviews rather than a contributor, without the filters I'm no longer interested. It's simply too tedious now to wade through this stuff. 
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Jeorj Euler

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I reward you a nod for counting your blessings, Sdk ElMaruecan.
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Stephen MacLeod

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"Times are changing, but certain freedoms need to remain, otherwise we regress as a species".  Care to elaborate on this statement, Mark W? You seem to be implying that times are chaning in the direction of losing freedoms, why assume this? or is that want you meant at all? Why even connect this issue here with the times in general supposedly "changing" (and in what way do you think the times are changing)? Sorry, a bit off topic, but still that statement begs questioning.
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Stephen MacLeod

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"Times are changing, but certain freedoms need to remain, otherwise we regress as a species".  Care to elaborate on this statement, Mark W? You seem to be implying that times are chaning in the direction of losing freedoms, why assume this? or is that want you meant at all? Why even connect this issue here with the times in general supposedly "changing" (and in what way do you think the times are changing)? Sorry, a bit off topic, but still that statement begs questioning.
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Jeorj Euler

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Well, freedom is not free. It never has been and probably never will be.
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fung0

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Well put. I couldn't agree more.
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Aaron

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The sort function should be brought back as soon as possible: it is essential for refining reviews. I frequently sorted using the Love/Hate filter, which made it possible to see a broad range of opinions at a glance and understand the arguments for and against a film.

The new way of sorting by helpfulness is deeply flawed as it gives an often skewed sample of opinions. With The Force Awakens for example, I kept scrolling down but did not find a single positive review.

I understand the long-term reasoning for these changes (some of which have been positive) but many of them have severely reduced the utility of the site in the short-term. Surely such a large firm has the technology and resources to bring back this simple function.
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Frazer Caird

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An additional glaring problem comes to mind in the case of a film such as The Force Awakens. What possible reason could anyone now have to submit a new review for a highly popular film such as this? Because the reviews are (a) only sortable by helpfulness and (b) only allow for visibility of 10 at a time, then a new review will be buried a hundred pages or so down the list. No one will ever see it, so to all intents and purposes there is no longer any point submitting new reviews for films with a healthy number of existing reviews.
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sv, Official Rep

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Aaron and Frazer, both of you have valid points on the breadth and diversity of reviews sorting options enable. We sincerely hope you continue to support IMDb through your valuable contributions as we iterate through making improvements to not just Reviews but all our features. 
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Frazer Caird

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sv - I am wanting to carry on contributing reviews. That is my preference but under the current set-up I simply cannot, as I can no longer even access all my reviews from a single list and I can't sort my reviews by helpfulness, so have no idea which ones are even considered useful by IMDb users. Also, the ten at a time browsing method for reviews for specific films means there is little motivation to add new reviews now on that basis either. Contributing any further reviews will just not work under these restrictions, so I shall be forced to cease to do so unfortunately. I think we prolific reviewers have spotted these issues immediately as we use the system continually. Hopefully sometime in the future we will have a platform to manage our work and we can return.
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Maria T Ciaccia

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well, I don't know anyone interested in reviewing a film after this.
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Pad A

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Well said
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john

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Why should we continue to support IMDB? So that Amazon can make more money while demonstrating complete disregard for what is moral and correct behavior toward its users? Only the blind cannot see that entire film review industry, rotten tomatoes and IMDB included, is rotten to the core and skewed toward new releases (due to collusion between reviewers and these sites). Removal of ordering prefernce was not an accident, but a way to prevent us from getting realistic idea about a film we have not seen yet.This forceful skewing of reviews is nothing new, and SONY pictures was caught in the act many years ago... and IMDB is just making the problem worse and has been doing it for years now.
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Yes, Force Awakens reviews viewed by popularity/helpfulness were not helpful at all. Looking reviews for same film using "prolific authors" filter gave an entirely different more balanced view on the film - also matching pretty accurately IMDB ratings distribution for the title.

On somewhat unrelated note: I think IMDB should use 'prolific authors' as special group for ratings instead of 'top 1000 voters'... since 'top 1000 voters' is compromised by a subgroup of people who actually do not watch the films but only intend to manipulate the IMDB rating system... how do I know this; it's rather obvious comparing some films & age groups vs top 1000. Not to mention that there are actually a bunch of lost films which have never been seen by a modern viewer - yet these titles have consistently votes from a small group of top 1000 voters. But I digress.

The boards for Force Awakens were an interesting excursion as well, although again heavily biased towards fanatic people who didn't like the film. Spicy discussion.
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Jeorj Euler

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I remember the IMDb message board for The Force Awakens, and I remember that a lot boards for other movies, shows and games were all too similar.
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Jeorj Euler

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I remember the IMDb message board for The Force Awakens, and I remember that a lot boards for other movies, shows and games were all too similar.
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Bob Jackson

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You're more eloquent than I would have been. If I expressed my full disgust at the options removal, it would never get posted.
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Nadim Ammor

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Where can i see rates per episode (currently if you go to a show and in the url type /eprate is what i'm looking for) also i don't like the updated look of the page, 1 review is taking up my entire page! where do i sort by new etc!?
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Leonard, Official Rep

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Hi Nadim,

Per this Announcement:  https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/upcoming-changes-to-several-imdb-features-du6man1opd5q0, we have recently made several changes to IMDb. 

One of those changes, which we have rolled out today, is to add Episode Rate and Vote functionality to the Episode List pages (e.g. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0903747/episodes?season=2).  On the Episode List pages, you can now see the Episode's IMDb rating, followed by the number of votes.  You can also rate the given Episode.  

Thanks!

Leonard 
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Theo Robertson

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I have rarely needed to come to the getsatisfaction site but I too am shocked as to the new layout . I've done almost 4,000 reviews in 15 years and like everyone else who has contributed to the site I feel like I've come home early and found my wife in bed having a 3some with the  milkman and postman . That's how badly I feel let down here

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John Bulcovic

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Theo, if I were you I'd feel devastated as well. If IMDB does not respect you as a content creator, I'd kick them out of your life just like you would a cheating wife: delete your reviews from the site.
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Mark Grindberg

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Excellent analogy
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Jorge Pancolart

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In my opinion they got big money to kill the reviews system. And if they decided to do so, they should share that profits with review contributors at least. Terrible it is.
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Jeorj Euler

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They're planning to extend the ability to submit reviews to the IMDb app. For whatever additional reason (such as wanting a uniform platform), as a consequence, the overall system is being reduced to the lowest common denominator. Anything that is impossible to implement for the mobile applications will not be available for the desktop platform. It's sick, isn't it?
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Pad A

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First Time I’ve come to ‘get satisfaction’ too and I’ve only got 65 reviews so feel for you and others who have 1000s you really been let down :(
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ACT_1

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Update to User Reviews
Today (December 11 2017) we are announcing changes to User Reviews
as part of the broader site update announcement
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/upcoming-changes-to-several-imdb-features-du6man1opd5q0
• We have removed sorts and filters.
“Your Reviews” is now ordered by date and reviews on each Title sub page are ordered by Helpfulness.
• We have removed the Index view.
• We updated the way that reviews with spoilers are displayed

Posted 7 hours ago (December 11 2017 5:42 PM UTC)
Karen, Official Rep
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So...

I do not  changes to User Reviews in upcoming-changes ??


MartinHafer
IMDb member since June 2003
http://www.imdb.com/user/ur2467618/
http://www.imdb.com/user/ur2467618/comments
http://www.imdb.com/user/ur2467618/comments-index
is now
http://www.imdb.com/user/ur2467618/reviews
21,472 Reviews  - Ordered By: Date


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I do not SEE  changes to User Reviews in upcoming-changes ??
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thetjt

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Hey Martin, just wanted to say that I've read a lot of your reviews and have enjoyed them a lot. I often find your taste in films similar to mine, disliking the same art films etc. "Pretentious art film alert"... :)

Your review is often a good clue if I will like a film or not... although most of the time I read reviews only after seeing the film. So just wanted to say thanks.
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Pad A

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Still can’t find my latest review it’s disappeared altogether -but find it amusing that you published this Star Wars one - very amusing -I love the humour -
travisbickle8611 December 2017
10/10
Very pleased with our business model
After the failure of Lucas' prequels, we here at Disney Corp. decided to 'give back' to fans and provide them with exactly what they wanted: old faces in new costumes, lightsabers, big-dogs driving spaceships and all that Sci-fi nonsense.

After the roaring financial success of The Force Awakens, we knew we were onto a winner by following well-researched business models and marketing strategies, which would tick all the boxes for Star Wars fans old and new. The fans ate it up, and myself and all the other shareholders here at Disney Corp. had a wonderful Christmas.

The enormous financial rewards from ticket sales and mechanising has allowed us to acquire more assets and rival studios, so as to reduce the competition from other distributors and film-makers, which could in anyway harm our product. In fact, our enormous power and wealth has allowed us to hire maverick, independent, American film-makers, such as Rian Johnson, with the lure of a vast salary and a side- order of blackmail, in order to make sure the latest product (TLJ) is directed to specification of our glorious leader Kathleen Kennedy.

Fans will want to see this 10/10 masterpiece again and again, so we here at Disney Corp. have made sure that cinema chains will pay a large part of their revenue stream in order to screen The Last Jedi, so that other films don't get in its (your) way.

Merry Christmas and do make sure to visit the gift shop after your fourth viewing!
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Kathleen Kennedy is a nobody.
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SLions Cricket

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What on Earth is IMDb trying to do? This is literally the biggest film/tv social platform and has been for decades and what, you're trying to break it now? How on Earth could you honestly remove the index viewing feature for reviews? I myself only have about 100 reviews on there as of now (which I was hoping to keep updating by putting out more reviews) but what about the people whose number of reviews ranges into the thousands? You've effectively destroyed their work by your own stupidity. They're reviews might still be a part of the site but they no longer can access any of it. 

You know what I liked about the index feature beyond being able to conveniently see a lot of reviews at once? The fact that your TV episode reviews could all be clustered together. You've destroyed that as well. 

The actual review pages now look absolutely atrocious. Rather than make simple enhancements, you've detracted a lot of what made the review site what it was. It looks unbearable, sadly. 

Now I wasn't really much of an IMDb user when the message boards were taken down but now you've completely re-done (and IMO, screwed up) the list features and now the review features, which is an even greater abomination to those (not myself) that have put in years and years of hard work. 

Please do something to at least mostly revert to what IMDb was. I feel the character of the site is being lost now.
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William Wilson

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Some IMDb exec: "Everything is going great and people love the site. Let's screw it up now with a bunch of changes to justify our positions."
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Horst

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I am truly disappointed in imdb. One bad decision after the next. I won't go into detail further as everybody before me outlined the flaws here. The administration doesn't seem to care at all. Well at least they had their "in-depth discussion and examination" as usual. Criticism is not adressed at all or just with a link to another thread that justifies nothing. Hopefully at least sv's words in here can be relied on. I at least want the "Deleted Reviews" option back.
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This change reeks of when amazon.com was caught fixing book reviews a few years back. This was a calculated move by IMDB/Amazon that will benefit big budget productions by drowning out certain reviews.

Additionally, I love that I had to make an account through getsatisfication just to be able to comment about how bad IMDB got.
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Am I right in thinking you can no longer see the 'top-rated episodes' of a TV show? I used to love being able to compare how an episode fit in overall with the entire series/season of a show. What reason would you have for taking this feature away!?
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Michael

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Another feature that's disappointingly disappeared :(
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thetjt

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Some random software platform change to "mobile" is undoing years of innovation, improvement & functionality across the board. Sad!
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Reviews are only "Ordered By: Helpfulness"? That can't be true! I think the filtering options are one of the most important features in IMDb!
Is "to simplify the features" a valid argument? "simplify" means reduce functionality?

For me the filtering and sorting of reviews were one of the main reasons to use IMDb, the last 10 years! So, IMDb with the reviews sorted only by "helpfulness" (where do I e.g. find the latest) is now pretty useless for me.
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Couldn't agree more.
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John Bulcovic

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Same here... by removing the sort order options for reviews IMDB has changed from an extremely useful to an almost useless site for me. And that is just me speaking as consumer of reviews, not even as a writer.
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They sold out obviously. Terrible.
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Mark Walton

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Yeah, sort by order of helpfulness? According to whom? The sycophants that upvote crappy films? Okay, here's a good idea. let's take one  of the best, most well-organized cross-referencing web sites in existence and screw it up royally, oh and while we're at it, let's piss off all of our loyal users!!!
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Just want to add my shout to this vast chorus of disapproval: this is SUCH a worsening of the site, SUCH an affront to (esp. long-time) users, and it's SUCH a joke that you expect us to believe, in the face of these diminishings, that there are improvements to come. IF that were true, you would have put the improvements in place at the same time as you made the changes, so everyone could clearly see the (alleged) benefits. You have, once again, lost SO much of my trust and goodwill. You are destroying your own site. What's IMDb worth if it's far more convenient to find all the same info on Wikipedia and elsewhere? Answer me that! I am unspeakably disappointed in you people. Get your act together! Do you want to be THE go-to site for movies, data, reviews and community? Or do you want to be just one half-assed site among many, giving us no reason to prefer using you? I repeat: Get your act together. This ain't cuttin' it.
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I cant believe IMDB wont have "loved it", "hated it" filter options anymore. I prefer to use those searches when seeing if I might like a movie or not. Now you just have to read reviews in any random order? Why did you get rid of the filters?? So, now we cant see reviews in ascending or descending ratings anymore??? Why would you change it to just a simple, basic site now? I have bought/own 361 HD movies on Amazon video, plus HD TV shows. I always liked to read IMDB reviews before buying a movie on Amazon, or going to the movies. I have been using IMDB for 15 years or more. I always preferred to search movie reviews by the "loved it", or "hated it" filter options because its very informative to read why people voted the movie a "1" or "10".  This filter option was quick access to that. As a great Amazon customer I ask you bring back the filter options, at least. Thank you...Natasha Veneska
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This "user review" change is terrible and very disappointing.  If it ain't broke, why fix it?  I always went to "chronological" first so that those reviewers have an opportunity to get rated as "useful" or not.  I also liked "hated it" when I hated a movie and "loved it" when I loved a movie.  Now if a review is not already rated as "helpful", how can it even be seen?  Why should new reviewers be prevented from being read in the first place?  Now many reviewers, who may spend a great amount of time and effort on their reviews,  will never be read or appreciated.  That is pathetic!  I will be very reluctant to write reviews in the future.  I suppose that this is what imdb wants.  Otherwise why would you make this terrible and disappointing change?
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"Now if a review is not already rated as "helpful", how can it even be seen? "

...This, I think, is extremely crucial question. Particularly with popular films which have already lots of reviews. A new review will NEVER be read by anyone... who would care to "load more" reviews a hundred times over just to see the latest review...

This reveals how little thought was put into this update.
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Also don't forget the fact that if you knew in one visit you wrre on page six, now you can't skip to page 7 anymore. I also loved the custom ratings where you could pick from for example 3-8. I used to do that to getca balanced review because sometimes people rate a 1 or ten when it wasnt that bad or good.
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Tab L. Uno

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New review format sucks and is terrible.  I want to find another movie review site that is user-friendly for consumers not for website developers.  Anybody know of another movie website that is better now that IMDb has ruined its reviewer listing?  Let me know at tablynuno@msn.com  This just tears my heart out after 16 years and over 1,000 movie reviews.  I feel betrayed.  I guess that's how our country is going.  Why not IMDb?
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Pad A

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Perhaps we should all start a new review site !?
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I recommend Letterboxd, great site and very user-friendly.
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Tab L. Uno

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Has a nice website look.  I will check it out further, thanks.
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Thanks for the tip on Letterboxd, seems like it has lots of reviews already and it does have the feature to sort reviews on rating (i.e. start with those who hated or loved it).
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I joined Letterboxd the other day as well. Onwards and upwards.
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Thanks for the Letterboxd recommendation!
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Tab L. Uno

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I've been trying to archive all my movie reviews onto Microsoft Word, but I am only to get two pages of my most recent movie reviews because I get to the point where there is no more "load more" button.  What am I to do?
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Hi, Tab L. Uno. The "load more" button vanishes altogether once the last page of a given user's reviews is reached. If, however, the button is still visible but the text upon it has been replaced with a clockwise-pulsating icon, then there is at least one more page remaining, and it has yet to be loaded (or the download process has gotten stuck).

The following 16-pixel-by-16-pixel image is what the icon looks like:
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Tab L. Uno

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Sad.  Not button is visible at all.  More than 1,300 of my movie reviews are practically lost...days and days or research and work.  It's almost an immoral change made by IMDb without better forewarning.  I am liking Letterboxd more and more as I use it.

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Hm. Okay...
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How do I vote "unhelpful" to the imdb official announcement?  The change to indexing "user reviews" is extremely unhelpful, especially the elimination of the "chronological" category, among others.  Out of 10, I rate this as a big fat ZERO!