Vivienne Maya

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I was watching a 1971 movie that has several possible titles, most recently "Duck You Sucker" starring James Coburn and Rod Steiger. I wanted to see who another character was, the lady who plays Coburn's girl friend in the flashbacks.

The name that appears is Vivienne Maya, clicking on the link I am taking to a page with her information her DOB stating that she was born in 1969 (making her 2 when she played a fully grown woman). A further search reveals there are 2 Vivienne Maya's in the IMDB database. The second Vivienne was very active in the early 1970's and is almost certainly the lady in "Duck You Sucker".

The Vivienne Maya (I) lists several movies/tv shows that she performed in, including two before she was born. These should be the Vivienne Maya (II) aka Vivienne Chandler.

The problem I am having is the submitting corrections page does not have an EASY method to report an error such as this. Nearly every entry in the Vivienne Maya (I) needs to be reviewed for accuracy.
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Lynn,

The fix for this is actually very simple to do – but I must stop you there because I think that you’re wrong here; nothing big, just misreading the page.

You say Vivienne Maya (I) was born in 1969, but actually she was born on November 6th, 1947.


As such, she was more than the right age for the role in Duck You Sucker.

However, we do need to change several credits – but it is those of Vivienne Maya (II).

If you look at (II) you’ll see all of her credits are post-2007 and projects in the US (when Vivienne Maya (I) was in the UK fighting the cancer that would ultimately win), that is with the exception of her credit in Clockwork Orange – which it is clear is the same actress and indeed on Wikipedia that one is listed with the other credits IMDb shows.

So actually we need to change someone using the ‘simple’ method I mentioned before. So:

- I go to Clockwork Orange and click ‘edit page’

- I click ‘correct’ in the cast list

- I click ‘correct next to “Maya, Vivienne (II)”

- I delete one of those ‘I’ and submit it as  “Maya, Vivienne (I)”

^ like I say, very simple. You don’t need to do this – I have done update 141019-195316-917000 for this change.

bob

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Lynn,
Although your reasoning was wrong, you were right that these credits need reviewing.

I think a good starting point is to identify who British actor Vivienne Maya (I) is. So here are some pictures of her in different films:

Giù la testa / Duck You Sucker


Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi


And a few in real life, when she was a bit older:


And one about a year before she died from cancer:


So now we know who Vivienne Maya (I) is, which helps when we look at the credits which may or may not be hers.

So let's look at Vivienne May (II)'s credits:


I've already done update 141019-195316-917000 to move Clockwork Orange to Vivienne Maya (I), but the other one that stands out as odd is Ceaseless Sound (2011), which is a UK/French production which is about an older woman battling a terminal illness.

This is the Vivienne Maya in the film:


As you can see, whoever Vivienne May (II) is, this is not her, so I've done update 141020-194311-761000 to move the credit in this film to Vivienne Maya (I),

I've also watched the film and it should not be a (voice) credit - although she does narration, she is clearly in the film and also speaks in it too.

bob
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Lynn,
Looking at a couple of the credits for Vivienne Maya (I) there is also the oddity where there are a couple in the middle where she is not credited as 'Vivienne Chandler', which struck me as odd that she would use a name, stop for a bit, then start again.

Those credits are:



Since Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi is uncredited we can't check the name on that one, but let's do the others:

Young Sherlock Holmes 


The Ploughman's Lunch 


The Draughtsman's Contract 


Victor Victoria 


I'll do updates to add (as Vivienne Chandler) to all of these....but this means that only one of her credits where she is not uncredited is now listed her as her 'proper' name.....which makes me wonder why she is listed on IMDb as Maya - a name she used so infrequently.....

bob
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Lynn,
While doing the update to move the credit on Ceaseless Sound (2011) from Vivienne Maya (II) to Vivienne Maya (I), I of course confirmed the credits so I knew that the (as Vivienne Chandler) was correct:


I note that this change has now gone live....but I was thinking that, since the film seemed so specific to Vivienne Maya (I)'s sad situation but also the spirit she showed in the film, I wondered if they would have given her other credits since it was clear she was not just an actress in this.

As I suspected she has what i think is a music department credit, and also a dedication (which is only to her first name, but must be her):




I have done update 141021-062558-960000 to add these two credits.

bob
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Thank you for doing this, Bob, and thanks for sharing. It actually made my morning reading your posts and the credits. Very moving.