What was the last film you saw and how would you rate it? Pt. 18

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Thought I'd post this here until I hear we're doing it somewhere else....

Post the name of the latest movie you've seen and your rating out of 10. 
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Sunshine Boys (t0073766) - 7/10 - loved Burns, hated Matthau.
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Doomsday Machine (1972)
1/10. Apparently a rewatch though I don't ever remember watching it. I rated it already on IMDb. Cinematic Titanic commentary, 9/10.

Casey Kasem and MASH's Mike Farrell have the brief talking cameos.


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Roadhouse, 1989.  First time viewing!!!  Wow, that was insane!  But "You're too stupid to have a good time!" is my new favorite line.  Such cheesy and childish fights and uncomfortable "sexy" scenes.  Also a movie with a LOT of hair!  Overall 3/10.  Watched with 2016 RiffTrax commentary, I give that a 7/10.  Although I'd love to see Mike's solo riff sometime.  


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IT Part 2 and was really disappointing. Rubbish.
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I AM A FUGITIVE FROM A CHAIN GANG 9/10

That's why I love watching movies, every once in a while, you have something that blows your mind. I think the last time I was haunted by a film, it was with "I Want to Live!" with Susan Hayward.  I think it's interesting that the two movies center around the flaws of the judicial system and on the harrowing journey of not-so innocent (but not plain guilty) protagonists, both victim of unfortunate circumstances and believing till the very end that the system works. Paul Muni is simply extraordinary as James Allen, the man whose soul is literally crashed by the  chain gang routine and the barbarian conditions prisoners live under, he's like Billy Hayes in "Midnight Express" but this is no Turkish prisons and Warner Bros must be commanded for making such a social-protest film to an audience who's most likely to react with "these guys are no angels, they had it coming".

It helps to know that Allen is innocent but it doesn't change anything for the second act of the film shows a man whose rehabilitation is complete and what goes in the last third act is the part that fills your mind with a cool and icy rage, watching civilized countries turning good and innocent people into shadows of their former selves, speaking of shadow, I didn't think it would happen but I just found one of the most haunting endings ever, the last minute of the film is forever stuck in my memory, especially with Paul Muni's eyes, the way he slips into the darkness and the last exchange that I won't spoil.

If only for the ending, just watch the film.
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RiffTrax Rollergator, 5/10.  Some really funny moments but not the best riff, sadly.  The movie alone is absolutely despicable; the guitar won't stop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Some David Cronenberg movies, as good as intolerant

Good

spider 9/10

Cosmopolis 8/10

Intolerant

Crash 5/10

M.Butterfly 3/10
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DAZED AND CONFUSED 10/10....

Boy, am I inspired now!

First of all, “Dazed and Confused” might not leave you dazed but slightly confused on what Richard Linklater wanted to express in his recollection of his 1976 youth memories with the last day of high school as a backdrop in some Texan town. What he wanted to show is obvious: a slice of teenagers’ and young adults' life at the eve of the summer holidays, when those who leave are at the top of the hierarchy and the future newcomers are going through a rite of passage... literally. The cult-classic highlights a reality that only someone still in touch with kids (like a teacher) can truly see, they do need a social hierarchy and a "system" as much as adults.

 That’s the fascinating paradox of youth functioning, first, it’s meant to be a world apart, in that pivotal period between childhood and adulthood, there's a need to be part of "it", that "it" Grandpa Simpson used to be with, until he didn't know what "it" was. Think of it, why do we call them the “best years of our lives”? Why is fashion  or music generally made by and for it? Because there’s one thing the young knows, he must distance himself from his childhood, which means from the parents, the parents stop being the perspective, they become objects of the kids' perspective. Now, all it takes is to extend the parents to any semblance of authority and you got it, kids refuse the authority or discipline not because they feel they don’t need it, but because they feel a more urgent need to challenge it, because that’s how they structure their identity.

All these elements of rebellion are essential aspect of youth, whether it's against your football coach calling your buddies a loser, a teenager breaking the curfew, drinking beer before legal age, smoking pot or whatever, or simply questioning the learnings from school, rebellion is essential... many of these kids aren’t armed to face the world, not yet, their views are confused indeed, but the idea of creating that social microcosm where they can be themselves is all worth it. Like fashion, from the black leather jackets in the 50s to the hippies in the 60s, punk or the new wave, fashion is what outdates the adults, what makes them out of touch, belonging to  the past while fashion is the "it" thing, the expression of the moment, no past, no consequences then no future, “Dazed and Confused” has long hair, afros, flared trousers high heels, while it's only long hair and maybe sideburns from the older ones.

 Notice that even the 14-15 kids dress like them but their momentum hasn't come yet, compromised by their age, by the fact that they can barely drink without falling asleep, by the fact that some are still not interested in girls and would take kissing and making out as enough an achievement. That's the irony of the young adults, with teenagers, they feel like adults, with adults, they can enjoy them being careless. As a matter of fact, a great line can speak a thousand word, it comes from Matthew McConaughey and has become the signature : “That’s what I love about these high school girls, man. I grow older, they stay the same age”. These guys enjoy the idea of having grown up, of being at the peak of their youth and big enough to act like parent figures, the rebellion isn't complete if you didn't take the role of the parents and here's why the hazing scenes are important.

When the girls put pacifiers in their "victims"' mouths, it’s a subconscious maternal instinct working, when the boys are spanked, it's not much humiliation than relegating them to a childhood that is their only perceptible status among the almighty elders. But these coming-of-age rites are less meant as regressions for the teenagers than consecrations to the adults. For instance, when the girls are soiled literally with mustard and ketchup and then symbolically when they're forced to say dirty words, it’s still all part of a game actually, if that wasn’t unsuitable it wouldn’t be fun, they're like little girls putting on mommy's heel shoes, in a later scene, when young Sabrina is caught flirting with an older guy, the drunk Darla (Parker Posey) throws one hell of a tantrum and  promises to make her life a living hell, similarly with Ben Aflleck's O'Bannon when he gets his comeuppance and can't accept it, spanking kids is okay but being splattered by painting is a blow to his dominating ego.

Both Darla and O'Bannon take their status so seriously that it's not even a game anymore and they’ cross a sort of fascist line in the way they consider that a social category isn’t supposed to overstep its boundaries, showing the limits of the rebellion when it creates the same mold than adult society, when even a nice guy like Adam Goldberg’s character can be assaulted without any reason, or just one word too many, that's the catch when you get off Daddy and Mommy's pants, they're not here to protect you.  So it’s not easy to be a kid, because it gets us also ready to the harsh realities of the world, it's in a way a required passage because even within the youth, there are tyrants, injustices and victims. Oh yes. 

 As a teacher, I know my authority is challenged more than often and sometimes I’m like “damn I hate these kids” or "kids today" and then I see them acting together in the school yard and I realize that their inside world isn't better is no less deprived from violence, they reject authority but they have their hierarchies, with the athlete, those who get the girls, those who can fight, they reject their parents but enjoy acting like parent figures of mentor. 

Now, I don’t think the relevance is in the historical context (post-Nixon era etc.), despite its terrific soundtrack, the film screams "young" more than "seventies"... but I think what Linklater’s coming-of-age film proposes is a real sociology of youth, even more effective than “American Graffiti” because there's no plot, not even subplots..... but if we were to draw some parallels with today's pre-2020 years, now that we have cellphones, Internet, social networks... if the rules of the game haven't changed much, the game seems more violent because now you can’t see where the hits come from and more confusing because you can't separate yourself from the world, let alone the authority figures...  maybe today is even more dazing and confusing.



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The House That Jack Built (2018) - Shocking yet artful, but what else could you expect from Lars Von Trier? - 8/10


The (in)famous scene where he mutilates a duckling. First I wanted to rewatch the scene to ensure that a fake animal was used and not a real duckling, but I couldn't. Apparently it was a real duckling using special effects. The little duck was not harmed and animal rights activist organization PETA actually praised the scene for its accurate portrayal of the link between adolescent animal abuse and psychopathy.
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Ad Astra (2019), 7/10. Pretty weak script. Never boring at least. Pretty convoluted.
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That explains the major media push for it. They are giving it the full hype treatment.
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Eddie Murphy as The Nutty Professor, but i like Jerry Lewis 's version better.
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Both movies are products of their times but I thought Sherman Klump was a more relatable character, Lewis overplayed the goofiness but his climactic speech was better.
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An ambitious crossover:

The Nutty Professor IN SPACE
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I respectfully disagree. It almost put me asleep three times. The lady next to me admitted that she almost nodded off twice.
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The studio will likely regret their terrible marketing campaign (making Ad Astra seem more like an action film than it really is). I already had an inkling that it was more contemplative to a pretentious point.

The pace worked for me. The flaws were elsewhere.

Were you expecting Total Recall levels of action and still have the Brad Pitt Oscar buzz?
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The answer is no. I was expecting a decent science fiction story using near future technology. Some of the events in the action scenes were unbelievable. Spoilers ahead. Like the fall from the antenna and him entering the rocket when it was launching. The whole moon pirate raid was completely forced and felt like it was put in to some spice into the story. The comfort rooms were directly ripped off from Ray Bradbury’s “The Illustrated Man” and “Fahrenheit 451”.
Also the second Pitt’s character shows human emotion, he fails the psych evaluation - yes, that is what caused him to fail it. He acts like a emotionless machine throughout most of the film.
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He acts like a emotionless machine throughout most of the film.


Can't be worse than his Chanel ad...
("inevitable" *shudders*)
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It is.
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I did say elsewhere that Brad Pitt did not deserve the Oscar buzz for Ad Astra.
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The Fly(1986) 8/10

David Cronenberg at his best moment
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Bad Lip Readings on YouTube... hilarious!  High School Musical will have you in tears!
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This afternoon:
Raise Hell: The Life & Times of Molly Ivins (2019) documentary, 9/10.

Then ...
Hustlers (2019), 7/10.
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Tonight:
The Wasp Woman (1959)
1/10. Cinematic Titanic commentary, 9/10.
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Blinded by the Light (2019), 7/10
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2019 milestone. Hit the 50th trip (47 different movies; 3 repeat watches) to the movie theater this year.
Downton Abbey (2019), 7/10.

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The 10th Kingdom series, 1/10.  Cool opening credits... but I only lasted about 15 minutes.  It was just too cheesy for me.  I'm assuming it was "slapstick" because it was made for kids, but they also showed a bloody guy impaled by spikes, so...
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William Wyler's 1965 drama thriller THE COLLECTOR starring Terence Stamp and Oscar-nominee Samantha Eggar, the film starts slowly but then we're immediately taken by the Stockholm/Lima syndromes going between Freddie and his hostage Miranda, it's not your usual 'trapped' movies and the conclusion is 'surprising' to use a neutral term. A fine crossover between "Peeping Tom" and "Misery"
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Unbelievable (2019– ) - 9/10 - Unbelievably good! :-)


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“Ad Astra” - 2 - a disaster . A film so boring I almost fell asleep three times.
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It, 1990.  6/10.  Never seen it or any other Stephen King movie before; not a bad scary movie and not too gory (I mean, it has Clifford in it).  It actually didn't scare me as much as I thought it would.  Some terrible 90's effects, but I'm not going to nitpick.  The most frightening thing about it was John Boy's ponytail.  Yikes.  :)  I know, I know - you're all going to tell me the book goes into more detail or the new movies are scarier - but right now, I'm happy with the It I just saw.  That's enough for now.  :)
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you're all going to tell me the book goes into more detail or the new movies are scarier
Nope! See my comment below, lol.
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It Chapter 2 (2019) 6/10. Slight spoilers ahead. Clowns are scary because they are uncanny - they resemble something we know, they have bodies and faces, but something is off. It is about an evil clown alright, but for most of the second chapter we see spidermothbabymonsters or whatever. The effects are as good as possible, but not effects can make me afraid of such stupid things if they are so grotesque and far-fetched that they can't feel real.

I was startled a good number of times, but it was all due to cheap jump scares. The effect lasts for one second and is gone, without any lasting horror. The audience actually laughed during some scenes. Just mentioning naked grandmas and creatures that resemble gollum or a giant troll doll.

The first version of It wasn't perfect but it was much more restrained. Less is really more. The new film tried to link the supernatural powers with the everyday horrors of family relationships, homophobia, bullying, etc. but the attempt pretty much fizzles out.
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Also, nostalgia runs wild. Just about every single object from the 1980s is fetishized.
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Less is more - I said that even before I saw the 90's movie!  The clown from that one looked like a regular clown, and that's what makes it so creepy.  The new Pennywise looks too "dark" and hammed up, so it looks like a horror movie, and not something that could happen for real.  Real is always scarier than stupid.  Stupid might freak you out in a gross way, but not a genuine way.  

Also, sorry if the warning about "everyone will tell me about the book and new movie!"; I'm just used to that with people I talk to.  If I see a movie based on a book, the first thing outta their mouths is "Oh, the book was way better!"  I guess I've got scars.  :D
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Spoilers ahead, I guess:
Just looked up images of the new spider form... looks like a cross between the monster from Stranger Things 3 and that crab-boss from Monster's Inc.  :)  The 90's one may have been a cheesy graphic, but at least it looked original.  Also in the new spider, I saw that Pennywise's face was still somehow on it... but it's not Pennywise, right?  The clown was just the form the monster took on.  They shouldn't be related at all!  That was the thing about the old one - it was unexpected when they found out the clown was... not a clown at all!  It was a web-spinning spider!  Twist!  Anyway, I guess I'm too bitter about a movie I only gave 6/10.  :)

Oh, and one more thing - I laughed in the theater when I saw the trailer and the old lady charged her, wearing a diaper?  :D
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Also, sorry if the warning about "everyone will tell me about the book and new movie!"; I'm just used to that with people I talk to.  If I see a movie based on a book, the first thing outta their mouths is "Oh, the book was way better!"  I guess I've got scars.  :D

Oh, I can imagine.

From what I read on Wikipedia (spoiler if you haven't read it), in the book, It also appears in the form of a werewolf, the Frankenstein monster, and Dracula. Also, It's antithesis is a space turtle that created the universe by literally vomiting it out. So I guess that sometimes it's better to deviate from the source material, lol.
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 It's antithesis is a space turtle that created the universe by literally vomiting it out. So I guess that sometimes it's better to deviate from the source material, lol.

Yeah, sounds like, haha!

Anywho, in the movie it felt like the thing was some kind of supernatural creature left unexplained, which is fine.  It was from the point of view of the characters, and they were just innocent bystanders witnessing it and doing what they could.  It wasn't a mystery, it was a horror.  Too much explaining would make it feel less scary.  The way I saw it, it was just an evil thing that took the form of people's fears, and since it worked through people's heads, it could only be scared away pshychologically (unless you tear out it's heart).  :)  
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Exactly my view. Horror is like comedy in the way that if you explain it, it doesn't work anymore.
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What was
Issuing from the movie was that the child is father to the man or childhood experiences never really leave the adult theme of the book. The whole book turned on that point. If you had noticed that childhood traits were returning to the adults in the book. There was a whole section in the book about the image of two separate libraries buildings (adult’s and children’s) connected by a tunnel or corridor, like an umbilical cord, that gets blown up in the end.
Also what was left out of the film was that Pennywise turns out to be a female monster that laid eggs that were about to hatch. One of the final scenes is that the adults are destroying the eggs. What Stephen King himself had missed is “What if they had missed one?”
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That should have read as “What was
Issuing from the movie was that the child is father to the man or childhood experiences never really leave the adult theme of the book.”
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Snow Queen miniseries, 2002, 5/10.  An okay interpretation of Andersen's story from the Hallmark channel.  Not the way would've done it (lol) and it does get a little tedious, but for the most part it's fairly close to the story and interesting at times.  And the polar bear is adorable.  :)  For most audiences I'd say it's take to leave, but for classic fairy tale connoisseurs it's worth a try.  
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The Goldfinch(2019)5/10 really disappointing

The Babadook(2014)9/10 This is the movie that defined the horror genre of this decade, it's brilliant.
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Madeline, 1998, 5/10.  Sweet movie with a cute little girl and lovely locations.  I've never read the book, but I probably should.  :)  Better for smaller kids but a good family movie.  No belly laughs but not at all painful.  :)
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Haha, for a minute I thought it said Manos (2019)!  :D
Disney's CGI remake.  ;)