What was the last film you saw and how would you rate it? Pt. 18

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Thought I'd post this here until I hear we're doing it somewhere else....

Post the name of the latest movie you've seen and your rating out of 10. 
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Sunshine Boys (t0073766) - 7/10 - loved Burns, hated Matthau.
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I am not your Negro 10/10

Have they started allowing users to edit the OP?
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Girlfriends Day - 5/10
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Friend request -3/10
Sleeping with other people- 4/10
Amateur Night -3/10
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It's been two weeks since I last saw a film
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The Name of the Rose (1986) - 9/10 - To be rewatched every 10 years, so I'm 2 years overdue :-)
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Have you read the book? Interesting contrast with the film.
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I did read the book and was blown away by it. The film, though still good, doesn’t compare to the book. I got Eco’s “Foucault’s Pendulum” but I never finished it because of my work schedule at the time. Lost interest.
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I don't know how much I'll give to Toy Story 4, but I'm already taking 1pt away, for a reason: because of its existence, we just lost what was one of the greatest endings to a movie series, the Toy Story saga won't end with that magical "So long, partner!" anymore...
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Oh yes, Forky was very Olaf!  Gabby Gabby made me cry. ;)  I liked Bo, mostly because she was finally reunited with Woody and because she was voiced by Annie Potts, who I've been seeing a lot of on Designing Women reruns, lol.  But I think they were trying to make her character a bit too "awesome!"  :)
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Indeed, and we all loved Gabby because she had that vulnerability inside, and I didn't hate Bo because she was too awesome but because her awesomeness in basically everything reflected Woody's own limitations, she lived the great life but he remained faithful to his owner because that was his reason to be... that could be questioned but the film made it sound that Bo had everything to teach Woody and nothing to learn from it. I would have accepted that from any character except one who's just popped up out of nowhere. 
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Man, what you write makes me realize why I couldn't be a good storyteller. I would analyze again and again what message could be taken from each action, instead of just going ahead with the story and leave open the interpretation. So Disney is on that way, apparently.

Yeah to your last paragraph. When stories try to mirror real-life (agendas) too much, they become empty. Once you understand the message, everything is finished. If they are more open thematically, even at the sake of being 'problematic' when examined closely, the impression goes deeper.
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Al, in French, they would say "too much 'message' kills the message"

I've always tried to distance myself from all these Internet malcontents who fuel their rants with words such as agendas, SJW, millennials etc. But Disney movies aren't helping, I gather that their intentions are noble but the road to hell can be paved with good intentions.

I meant it when I was talking about 'common denominator', that's what universality is about, something we can all relate to, something that transcend the barriers of gender, religion, ethnicity, sexuality... now, Disney and Hollywood in general are so obsessed with these themes that there's not a mainstream movie anymore that doesn't speak a statement about gender, ethnicity and sexuality... and the problem isn't necessarily in the message but the treatment that can be divisive.

And that's the whole irony of it, each movie now tries to tell you "things have changed" , fair enough, but since they're all with the same mindset now, they create the awkward feeling that creativity-wise, nothing is changing.

Another thing is that people should be allowed to have conservative views, but by continuously throwing messages that say "today is better than yesterday", you alienate a part of the population who could enjoy the stuff you made before, you can make movies that viewers would disagree with, but leave them enough rope to think and try to figure out a way to agree with you and I'm sorry but Disney movies should learn to be more consensual, not to rub viewers in the right direction, but to make the story the priority, not the message. A great story always has an Aesop, something to learn about life and relationships anyway.

I gather that what I said in my review was rather conservative but only in the sense that I wished the spirit of "Toy Story" to be conserved the way it was in the first 3 films, I enjoy a progressive film like anyone, but I wish Disney could do that with new characters, not with series whose arcs were perfectly closed.

But I think I see where they're coming from, they're probably preparing a spin-off prequel that will center on Bo Peep, so maybe "Toy Story 4" is only a vehicle for Bo. Ironic that in the film it was a skunk :)
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You're very right - nothing wrong with forward-moving messages, but let's not forget the wonderful things of the past!  Yes, I think it's very easy to make a film that is sweetly in the middle, without offending anyone.  Just keep things neutral!  :)