When is the aspect ratio "16 : 9" bug going to be fixed?

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For I don't know how long, submitting an aspect ratio of "16:9" to a TV series/movie results in the incorrectly formatted "16 : 9" (space on both sides of the colon) appearing on the site. I've pointed this out in my update comments a number of times, but still this bug hasn't been fixed, why?

There's no problem with 4:3 or 16:9 HD, just 16:9. Once the submission has gone through, you may correct "16 : 9" to "16:9", then it does in fact come through as "16:9". But, that's really no solution, having to go back to every title with this aspect ratio twice, especially if you don't know about the bug.

The most recent title I updated was http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0163944/
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I may add that currently, there's no less than 2,562 titles that have their aspect ratio incorrectly listed as "16 : 9". Just 243 have the correct "16:9".
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Hi rederiet -

Thanks for reporting the spacing error, I have reached out to our technical staff who will take a look as soon as they can.  Once I hear information on any updates I will post the status here.
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Thank you Michelle.
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Hi, Michelle:

I agree that this technical info needs some refinement. The guide is clear about the two different ratio formats for TV titles or films. In short:
  • Film: Normalized ratios, with space before and after the colon. "A : 1" (with decimal point, not comma, if A not integer)
  • TV: Standard ratios (A,B integers), without spaces next to the colon. "A:B"
The following results are taken from the plain text file technical.list (2 Oct 2015):
  
Those over 500,000 aspect ratios are represented by 318 "different" values of the field where they're saved, which I've classified into 5 categories/types:
  • "Film-like ratios": 203 [467,225 titles].
    Values equal to (or similar to, or suggesting) a normalized ratio (e.g. "1.33 : 1", "1.95:1", "1.78 : 1 / (HDV)", "2.35 scope").
  • "TV-like ratios": 61 [60,042 titles].
    Values equal to (or similar to, or suggesting) a non-normalized ratio (e.g. "4:3", "16 : 9", "16:9", "16x9 widescreen", "3:2 HD").
  • "Both Film-TV ratios": 9 [48 titles].
    Values including both a "film-like" and a "TV-like" ratio (e.g. "1.85:1 / 4:3", "2.35:1 (letterboxed in 16:9 HD)", "widescreen 16:9 (1.78)").
  • "Other ratios": 41 [233 titles].
    Display resolutions, worded aspect ratios, etc. (e.g. "1080 hd", "24P", "3D", "576i", "CinemaScope", "Fulldome", "virtual-reality").
  • "WTF": 4 [11 titles].
    Extreme values (e.g. Disney's "12.00:1") or typos (e.g. "High Defanition").
  
Given that the two first categories ("film-like" and "TV-like" ratios) cover 99,94% of total aspect ratios, I'll stick to them. There are two reasons why I humbly say that this info could be scrutinized better before publishing:

A) INCONSISTENT FORMAT OF THE RATIO
The representation of the ratios is fairly good, following the patterns "A : 1" and "A:B" advised/dictated by the guides most of the times, especially for "film ratios". However, about 5% of "TV ratios" are not formatted properly, either because a mistaken original submission or because IMDb itself processed it the wrong way (see the bug explained by rederiet above).
  • "Film-like ratios": 467,225 titles
    .    Correct pattern "A : 1": 466,315 (99,8%)
    .    Possibly correct pattern "1 : A" (vertical video maybe?): 12 (< 0,01%)
    .    Incorrect patterns: 898 (0,2%)
    .           "A:1": 703
    .           "A: 1": 46
    .           "A  : 1": 1
    .           "1:A": 35
    .           "A": 14
    .           "A:B": 36
    .           Decimal comma: 13
    .           2 colons: 46
    .           Other: 4

  • "TV-like ratios": 60,042 titles
    .    Correct pattern "A:B": 57,188 (95,2%)
    .    Incorrect patterns: 2,854 (4,8%)
    .           "A : B": 2,560
    .           "A: B": 179
    .           "A": 11
    .           Other: 104
B) DISCORDANCE BETWEEN TYPE OF TITLE AND TYPE OF ASPECT RATIO
Here is where I see more inconsistencies. If guides were observed, one would expect a "film-like" normalized ratio for films and a "TV-like" ratio for TV titles. However, this is not the case, especially (again) for TV titles, where over 75-80% of them receive a normalized ratio:
   

Therefore, I would draw some conclusions:
  1. The software bug described by rederiet that causes sent "A:B" ratios to be stored (and subsequently displayed) as "A : B" ratios (e.g. "16:9" into "16 : 9") should be checked.
  2. If normalized ratios are to be allowed (or even preferred on the basis of the precedent analysis) for TV titles, this should be clearly stated in the guide. Otherwise, the system should be able to transform normalized ratios into standard ratios (e.g. "1.78 : 1" into "16:9") or the data manager be more consequent with IMDb own recommendations. Ja ja
I hope this helps to find a good solution... Birra
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Thanks ljdoncel!
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Hi rederiet -

Apologies for the delay in replying here.  Unfortunately, the fix will require a more extensive investigation and cleanup, we don't have the resurces to fix this use right away, but it has been added to the road map for an upcoming sprint.  Thanks for your patience in the meantime!
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OK thanks, then at least I know it's now a known issue.