Where is the "Production Department" in the update page of a title?

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I've been using IMDb to update film titles for a "few" years now, and I never found a title file with a Production Department section. Now, I found a movie with ONE person listed under that section: [tt2238032]
Of course, when I click the Edit Page button, to edit this oddity, there's no Production Department in the page.
There's a bug somewhere, or I'm going mad for having seen so many movies.
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Artemis-9

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I tried opening every category of Cast/crew on this title, and used the Find feature of the browser. I found 3 other people who had "consult" as part of their description, but not this one:

Seems like a bug to me. 

Perhaps you should describe what edit you wanted to perform, so when a staffer gets to this post, they can do it for you.
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Thank you for the suggestion, but that is not my point. It's the bug that's buggering me.

IMDb has sections for Producers, Production Managers (which by the way, would fit very well in a Production Department, as yet non existent), and Production Designers, that would be better to include in the Art Department. I wonder if IMDb magicians are experimenting with the creation of a new department, and this file just came out with it.

The person was not credited, and I believe I checked them all in a long list of credits. I enjoyed the film a lot
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Digging into the datasets a little, I see there are 31 credits listed in this mysterious Production Department, and there are also a few other dubious departments that can't usually be seen: Electrical Department (6 credits), Script Department (1 credit), Archive Sound (2 credits) and Archive Footage (1257 credits - this is an archive footage department, not the usual attribute).

Given that the least popular "real" department has nearly half a million credits listed, these all look suspicious. A quick look through the jobs listed for each suggest to me that many of these credits wouldn't belong to these departments even if they did properly exist, so I suspect it's not IMDb testing, but that they've been added in error somehow.

But I can't see any way to get these departments to show up on the update form for adding or editing, even URL manipulation (such as https://contribute.imdb.com/updates?update=tt2238032:production_department.correct) is failing for me, so it'll need staff to fix them (and hopefully also preventing any future additions to these non-departments).


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Artemis-9

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Phil G has done a very good job - I don't know how, and do not wish to know. I'm not in the technicalities of the database construction, and am glad knowledgeable people are.

The "hidden departments" to a common user of IMD or even IMDPro should not exist anywhere in the database. Full stop!

I would accept them in a trial data bank, that would glitch partially to the "world at large", but action is needed from IMDb staff.

By the way, I did not object to the current structure of the interface page, but certainly it would be more rational for us, when doing the update, to have the occupations grouped according to the REAL nature of the jobs.

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Hi All -

Thanks for weighing in on this, I have alerted our technical team to investigate the issue, once I receive a response from them I will update you with the details here.
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I was going to ask for a progress report on this, but thought I'd check the latest datasets first, to see if there's been any change.  What I've found is that more entries have been added to these shouldn't-exist departments since I last checked, and even worse, these new entries would be misplaced even if these fake departments existed: editors in the electrical department?!

As part of their investigation, I hope the tech team will be looking at who is (still) adding these entries and how it's even possible (since it can't be done from the regular submission forms).

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Michelle went on a vacation, and there is no one else to whip the technical team to investigate the matter.
I "loved" to know that you found even more cases of this stupidity, which proves that it was not a temporary fault, but an active production of errors!
Michelle!... Autumn is here already, stop your vacation!