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y a pseudonym, but they used my real name. How to delete? So far, IMDB has been unwilling to do so. 
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IMDb has no way to delete any name with credits.

I tried to delete data, but it still appears on IMDb. Why?

IMDb aims to be the most comprehensive and reliable source of information on movies, TV and celebrities. We are committed to accuracy and it is our longstanding policy not to alter or remove correct factual information from our records. If you notice an error or omission in our data, please submit a correction or deletion via the "Edit page" button located at the bottom of every name and title page and our staff will be happy to review it and make all applicable changes. We have a guide to adding data here.

However, IMDb will not remove accurate information. If you try to delete an item of data which is accurate, your delete will not be processed. Please be aware that attempts to delete accurate data will count against your overall accuracy rating and may result in all your submissions taking longer to process along with additional proof requirements.


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Thanks Ed -- appreciate the comprehensive notes. Indeed -- this is pretty much what IMDB has been telling me. However, the name credited is not the name that was given to the production company and I'm simply asking that the name given to the production company be given the proper credit. Much like we'd want lost money returned to the proper person, I'm simply doing the same. There must be some recourse. If a company had 'cut a check' in wrong name, surely all parties involved would want this corrected, no? What must be done to ultimately make these corrections? 
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You will have to provide proof of that. Screen Credits Screen grab from all the titles in question. Are you the Camera Dept Guy or the Actor?
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Thanks Ed -- the screen credits have used the wrong name, thus, I'm trying to simply get them to use the name given to the production company. Being nearly 20 years ago, if going directly to the production company was an option, I would. I was the actor. (Screen Credits have used the wrong name -- my name)
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Short answer. Actor.
Thanks
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Those credits under the name you want to change it to are probably not on any of those  videos or TV end billing credits are they. If they are, then what is the name that was used on those titles. Several of us here a very resourceful. We will find those credits if they exist.
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Silk Stalkings is available on HULU.
Will I find a Credited waiter in the end billing?
Will it have a different name than yours.
Or will there be no credit there to find at all?
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Thanks Ed -- very helpful. Silk stocking is fine -- that's legit. The other 2 were non-union items and I had made it very clear that my real name was not to be used. 
For the other 2 -- can't recall the names used -- been a long time and paid these 2 credits very little attention until recently. 
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(Edited)
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He wants all these removed because it does not fit within current parameters of his new profession. He does not want to be associated with these popping up on a google search.
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Oh well then, that saves me looking for the rest of them.
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See this stuff a lot. People dance around the "Real" reason for removal. That was a Story #3 Reason #2 post. You get used to reading between the lines after a while.
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Indeed -- and this has been explained to IMDB. If I asked for my vanity plate to read "Go Raptors" but it was printed as "Go Warriors," I'm sure they'd want a correction. Doing the same. Sure, I don't like being associated with these credits, but there's also been an error that I'm wanting to correct. 
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Thanks Elise -- I have found this forum very helpful. Indeed -- trying to remove real name when a different name was given to the production team to use -- strictly to avoid these kind of situations years later. The 2 credits I'm trying to either remove OR give the other 'actor' credit for include Voyuer and Playboy. If there's anything that can be done, to rectify, I'd be wildly appreciative. 
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You will have to provide Billing credit screengrabs on the other 2 titles showing that your name is absent.
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Yikes. Thanks Ed. Not even sure where to begin with this then -- this is almost 20 years ago and 1 is so old that it doesn't even have an image attached. Plus, even if I am able to track someone down, I'm so low on the totem pole that I can't see anyone paying much attention to me -- as it affects no one other than ME. Arragh. Even if I am able to somehow get a VHS copy of the Playboy item, I'm credited here as my real name was used. Thus, I'd likely then need to show, in writing, where I gave direction that a different, non-union, name was to be used. There's no way that I have any copies of any of that.......would appear to be an uphill battle, but one that I'm willing to venture on. Perhaps Netflix would like to do a documentary on this......many thanks for all your help. If you have any words of advise or other suggestions, I'm all ears. 
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Makes no difference. Intent is not what IMDb goes off of. It goes off hard factual data from on screen credits.
See Below!
I told you we have very resourceful individuals here.
All your credits will remain as is.
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Thanks Ed -- was hoping to get more promising news, but the team has definitely been resourceful and much more helpful than IMDB. 
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OK
:):)
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Hi, Justin:
I'm credited here as my real name was used
Unfortunately you are correct. No matter which instructions you gave to the production company, your real name was used in Playboy: Playmates Unwrapped so, according to  policy, that credit needs to stay on the site, sorry.




Also, a question to editors and fellow contributors: I was about to remove the Documentary genre from this title, since I'm not sure it meets the current criteria (can Santa's helpers played by playmates be considered as real personages? can a title still be listed as a documentary if 100% of its footage is a reenactment?):

However, I've noticed that many other Playboy titles (which I haven't watched) have this genre listed, so perhaps there's some nuance that I'm unable to capture here. The question is: Is the genre being properly used in this case? (I won't post the link to the film because it's hosted on a porn site, but it's easily available through Google search).
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Interesting -- thanks for your notes here. Despite the challenges of wanting to get this removed, it's been an interesting journey. My guess, if I dig deep enough, I may be able to reach out to Playboy to see if they can remove? 
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ljdoncel, very much interested about Playboy features as documentaries as well, was wondering about that for ages. 
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Suppose I could also go through this whole cast list and hope that some names listed may not have an IMDB page, this setting a precedent for getting my name removed. 
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Justin,
I may be able to reach out to Playboy to see if they can remove?
Sorry, that won't happen. Title pages on use the on-screen credits of the original release, so even if Playboy removed/amended your name for future versions/releases of the film, your real name would still be displayed as such in the page.
I could also go through this whole cast list and hope that some names listed may not have an IMDB page, this setting a precedent for getting my name removed
That wouldn't work either. If some names credited on screen are currently missing from the page, they'll eventually be added by some contributor... Some factual info won't be removed in the argument that not every factual info is listed.
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Damn. Thanks ljdoncel -- for both your notes and time. Boy, where then do I go from here? 
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For those who are interested this is available on Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/Playboy-Playmates-Unwrapped/dp/B00005RG6U
Also as ljdoncel, Champion mentioned can be viewed on a plethora of porn sites which is where I also found the end credits.

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Thanks Elise -- I'm absolutely overjoyed that this title is available......uugh. 
Ok, next thought -- IMDB claims to have these credits 'verified.' As far as I know, for something to be fully accurate and verifiable, you need consent from the individual, no? For every website that I join, etc, they always send me a note to VERIFY the agreement. While I'm sure there's an argument stating why this hasn't been done (or more likely the need not to), I still feel that if truly 'verified,' I should have been contacted. Again, if there's been an error in the name given is verified, by me in this case, why wouldn't an effort be made to correct this? 
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What?
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As far as I know, for something to be fully accurate and verifiable, you need consent from the individual, no?
Consent not needed.

I still feel that if truly 'verified,' I should have been contacted.

Contacting you is not required.

error in the name given is verified, by me in this case, why wouldn't an effort be made to correct this?

No error exists.


IMDb aims to be the most comprehensive and reliable source of information on movies, TV and celebrities. We are committed to accuracy and it is our longstanding policy not to alter or remove correct factual information from our records.
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Thanks Ed -- while "Consent not needed" may be the case today, in cases such as these, we may eventually see some changes. While IMDB is claiming that he credits are accurate, I'm stating that they are not -- thus, it's not accurate. Like a pizza that has been delivered to your home -- sure a pizza has arrived -- that's fact, but whether or not there's enough pepperoni on it as you have requested, is open to interpretation. If no pepperoni has arrived even though you may have asked for it, that would be inaccurate and worthy of a change. At least in my books. 
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Your Statement admitting..................

but they used my real name.

You admitted that you means YOU!
Consent is not needed.
No matter what reasoning you will try, it is irrelevant.

Consent is not need to report the news on TV
Consent is not needed to report the news of who is in a movie.
It is a matter of public record. It is a statement of fact.
It will not be removed.

Wait for an employee reply from this point on.
They will supply the same answer.
Thanks

Ed
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Thanks Ed -- a healthy debate indeed. Let't just leave it at this -- as a credit that should have been credited to another name, this would classify this credit as incorrect -- we'd both agree to this. If Teenage Mutant Turtles had credited "Vanilla Ice" with his real name "Robert Matthew Van Winkle" instead of "Vaniila Ice," I'd say that too, was inaccurate. If IMDB is as serious as they sound about correct inaccuracies, there's a case here. 
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Wait for an Employee reply.
There is no debate here.
You are using flawed logic.
You stated above that these credits were correct but that the production companies failed to use a screen name in place of your real name.
How can you possibly classify it as incorrect, when you admitted it was correct?
Again wait for the same official reply.
You are convincing only yourself.
Wait please.
Thanks
Cheers
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Thanks Ed -- so, if Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles had used Vanilla Ice's real name in the credits, he too, would be out of luck, yes? 'Correct' here is simply as one is defining 'correct.' Real name vs stage name should be a valid argument for correct-ness. Will wait for employee response here. I do appreciate the time and comprehensiveness that you've dedicated to my questions -- thank you. 
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Flawed again.
The only thing that matters is what it says on the billing credits on screen at the end of any title.
That Simple.
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Right, and if the name billed is incorrect there should be a means to correct.......if full accuracy is what is indeed desired. I have a hard time believing Mr Van Winkle would have had a hard time changing his billed name to Vanilla Ice if an error in credits had occurred. Simple indeed. 
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Go correct that title. Go correct that credit.
You credits and another persons credits are irrelevant.
There is Zero to correct on yours.
Will no longer reply as you are intent on playing games.
Wait for an Employee please.
Feel free to type away though.
No one else will give the answer you want.
Thank You
Cheers
Good bye.
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Come on Ed -- that's the oldest trick in the book -- when confronted with a tough question to answer, the protagonist is accused of "playing games." In the theatrical world that would be called 'rising above' and not connecting. 
Sorry, but there is something to correct and I'll do all that I can to try. In the meantime, I'll go back to being happy and less concerned with being 'right.' 
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In your own mind.
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Hi Justin, 

As previously explained, we list our filmography based on a titles end credits. This is done so that anyone searching for a name which appears in the on-screen credits of a film will be directed to the page belonging to the correct person, even if the on-screen credits feature a different spelling or alternate name. 

We believe the data listed is accurate. Since it's our policy never to remove or alter factual information, we cannot delete it. 

Thanks
Meredith
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Thanks Meredith -- that all makes sense -- not questioning that. However, because my stage name was supposed to be used for these 2 credits, but it wasn't, the credits are therefore, incorrect......to me. They may appear 'correct' to you as you do not have the information that I have. In fact, this is factual that the name submitted to the production company to be used, was not. Sadly. If IMDB is truly after accuracy, which it claims it is, surely there must be some means to rectify these credits in the name of accuracy for ALL parties......not just the side of IMDB. Thanks for reading and understanding. 
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They don't care about your unreasonable reasoning.
The credits will stay as per IMDb Policy.
Under their rules (Not your interpretation mind you) it is correct.
By the way, once an official answer has been given your status changes from a problem, to not a problem. So any reply from this point on is not seen by staff.
Your credits are correct.
They do not care about your illogical interpretations.
They do not care about your illogical examples.
They care that what is seen on screen matches what is seen in the database.
Now, I like staff have wasted enough time with this.
You made some poor choices earlier in life. Live with them.
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Hi Ed -- thanks for your notes here -- as a motivational tool, right next to my Tony Robbins quotes, I now have your advice. Boy, if I ever feel bad enough to spew the type of venom you actively decide to spew, best to go back to bed. I may have made some poor choices in earlier days, but damn glad I'm wise enough to avoid such negativity and poison that you're clearly living now. Adios, amigo. 
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Jeez, maybe I'm a realist!
I don't spew venom. I point it out.
Avoiding anything does not mean that it must be addressed eventually at some point.
Also glad I could help you with a splash of the opposite of Robbins.
Avoiding negativity is unhealthy. Without it you would have no reference point for the determination of what is positive.
Also unhealthy is thinking that you are somehow better for this position.
Just look at your last paragraph. You failed to make me feel bad. That was your intent.
I on the other hand am actually happy that I was helpful in teaching you that there is a bigger world out there and that you must participate in it. Not Ignore it.
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Groovy
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We cannot do anything with a "to me" justification attempt.
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For any given movie, IMDb goes by the credits as they appeared in the first publication (including festival screenings) of the movie. This is of course based upon verifiable information.
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Jeorj.........Verified (Past Tense), not verifiable (Present tense). We are not trying to get in something new. This guy will take literally what you say and twist it around. Don't open doors for someone to step through!
:):):)
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I was intentionally being abstract.
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As opposed to being abstracted?

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We all live in a yellow submairine
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You

This is of course based upon verifiable information.

Should be

This was of course based on verified information.