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Bad performance in Android app

Please spend some time improving the android application! How come the iOs app is so far ahead?

The drawers function are a really nice function, but work horrible on android at the moment.
The handles are to small for high res screens.

Please implement ALL the improvments that was made for the iphone app regarding drawers! For exampel the ability to swipe the entire drawer to close it.

Also please add the connection status drawer for gateways.

And the overall smothness/performance need some improvment to make it faster and to improve the overall experience
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  • Yeah I have a hard time believing this is a Nexus thing, I have had this issue on my Nexus tablet, Asus Memo, Samsung Galaxy Tablets etc. Especially problematic with any Vera controls.

    After 2 years of problems I am regretfully and unwillingly moving away from iRule.
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  • Take a look at

    http://www.howtogeek.com/164106/why-i...

    https://productforums.google.com/foru...

    http://www.robschmuecker.com/fix-nexu...

    Since I don't own a nexus 7, I can't say what the problem is using iRule, but there are slowness problems without iRule installed. One issue seems to be the 1 Gig of memory. Swapping fast memory with slow memory takes much time. Again, I say that using iRule without unnecessary apps works well.
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  • The only other apps I have installed from factory fresh is Unified Remote (for Windows mouse + keyboard) and Android TV remote (for nvidia Shield remote control). I've force stopped both w/ no change.

    And again I must add, it all worked well together until the latest update. Please, no more with the rudimentary, phone tech support 101, read from the book advice.

    It's got nothing to do with other apps running, or memory, or anything like that.

    It's run fine since the day I bought the tablet a year ago (which replaced my older version Nexus 7 which ran well too) & has been performing poorly since the latest update. It's not rocket science. And it's not the first time performance has been affected after an update too. I imagine I'll be seeing an update within the next week or so. It just sucks that in it's current state it's very unreliable.
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  • We are looking into the issue with the gateway connection when the application is moved to background.

    I do not have any eta for when the patch will become available with this fix.

    You can roll back to an older version by sideloading the apk from the downloads portion of our website. http://getirule.com/support/downloads/
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  • Rolling back to the previous version seems to have fixed it for me. Thanks, and best of luck to my fellow Android users!
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  • I’m frustrated
    With the latest On Controls update for Android my gateways stay connected until my Android goes to sleep. Once that happens the gateways will not reconnect until I force quit the app and restart it again.

    They broke something bad with the latest update!
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  • There is one issue I have noticed that occurs on every android tablet I use andwould like to see improved: when rotating the tablet to the vertical position to display the vertical screen, it changes screens quickly. However, when rotating it back to the horizontal position, it takes quite a long time to bring back the horizontal screen. At first, I thought this was a function of the tablet itself, but this issue does not occur in any other program when rotating the tablet. Is there a possible solution? thanks
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  • My thoughts have always been to have a dedicated tablet for iRule to use as a remote. I install it for customers as it is still the best solution. The premise is that a remote is used in rooms needed, and if one was to use any dedicated remote, it would be left somewhere usable and cannot be used for anything else. The same should be true for the tablet using iRule as a remote. I looked for inexpensive Android tablets for a solution. They work, but have issues. So, a few months ago, I got a Samsung Tab 4. This is a much better tablet than any others I have tried. However, there are some similar issues it has that the more inexpensive tablets have. One of the problems I see is that, at times, the Tab 4 will still respond slowly. I notice that while waiting for the response to my commands is that there is much WIFI activity. I believe this is due to the tablet trying to do other things other than running iRule, i.e. running updates for programs that I do not want nor can eliminate. The issue as I believe is that most tablets have hard coded apps in the operating system included from the factory. Many apps included are paid to the tablet manufacturer that help reduce the cost to the consumer as price is what drives most consumers. And many preloaded unremovable apps are installed by the manufacturer themselves and benefit the manufacturer more than the user. Someday, I hope to prove this by obtaining a tablet that has only a clean copy of Android installed without rooting. Hard programmable buttons would also be great. But finding such a tablet has yielded nothing so far, hard buttons or not.
    That said, I still believe that iRule does work well and many slowness issues are not correctable by iRule. Hang in there, iRule.
    By the way, I install iRule on iPads also. And since everyone I have installed it on an iPad use it for many other things besides a remote, they have problems also.
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  • Perhaps some of the problem lies with the hardware or Android, but I believe some of it is iRule-related.

    For me, iRule runs OK 90% of the time on my Nexus 7 (2013). But for the other 10%, there is a long delay after pushing a button before a command is sent. When this occurs, I often get an "iRule is not responding" message. If I choose to wait, the command eventually executes. I don't see this happen with other apps, so I have to believe it's something inherent to iRule.
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  • When you press a command and it is not responding, look at the WIFI indicator in iRule, and see if there is activity. Every time it occurs with my tablets, there is activity and iRule must wait for the WIFI cue to be cleared before it can execute its commands. Let me know.
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  • Its definitely iRule. I left iRule because of it and the lack of progress addressing this issue. (I am/was all Android - various Nexus and Samsung phones/tablets) Granted I have been away from iRule for over a year now but I don't have any of the performance issues I had with iRule. The hardware stayed the same so I know it wasn't a hardware issue. It sounds like this still hasn't been addressed.
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  • I have never heard of Imperihome and will check it out. To clarify my premise on the delays in iRule, the only delays I see only occur after a command is given, and the WIFI icon shows activity. When the activity stops, the command is processed. My thought is that my device is doing something else other than processing iRule's commands, i.e. running updates that I cannot stop for apps that I do not want but are forced to have on the device from the manufacturer. If it is true that this does not happen with apps like Imperihome, then there may be a way in the operating system to obtain priority in the communications cue that is not being taken use of in iRule. I want to try to root one of my tablets and load a clean copy of Android and see if this is true. I have not yet done so as rooting is risky, and I do not want to have to do so on every device I need to turn into a remote. But something like Imperihome could make that all moot. However, I still want to know if my theory holds true, just because.
    It is important to me that any remote app can address TCP/IP commands to be useful as I believe most devices will be able to have commands issued via TCP/IP soon. This will eliminate IR communications and make controls much easier.
    I am presently working on a restaurant project that has 20 TV's with a DirectTV box for each TV. Since DirectTV boxes can accept commands via TCP/IP, I will be able to control each TV directly (or in groups) without the fuss of IR.
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  • When I made the switch to Imperihome I did not (and still do not) have any of the delays that I struggled with iRule. Its not as graphically rich as iRule but it has been rock solid in performance and I trade I would make again in a heartbeat.

    Also I have next to no IR devices. I used one PC based IR blaster with IRule for the TV box, otherwise everything was either IP->Serial or IP directly. I currently use Homeseer which is where most of my devices are configured and setup and Imperihome is my phone/tablet interface. Originally iRule was handling the config and the GUI

    Also, FWIW, I have a mix of rooted and unrooted devices and although I didn't specifically test that theory I didn't notice any difference between the two when it came to my iRule issues.
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  • I use imperihome for my lighting. I launch it from irule. Having said that, the differences between Imperihome and iRule are far greater that its graphic interface.

    Imperihome is fine for a casual simple setups but in no way can it be compared to iRules versatility for more complex systems, the handling of conditionals and variables, etc.

    The one thing I do like about imperihome is the ability to control my lighting outside of my network. This is a bit harder with iRule, opening ports, etc....

    I use iRule on Android and usually only experience lag when it is first booting, it needs to go thru the feedbacks on my home page before it settles. I set a variable label on the last feedback to tell me when it is done booting. Other than that it is fine.
    • I agree Karn that Imperihome on its own is not really a fair comparison to iRule. I, however, use Homeseer for everything (Lighting, AV, heating, security, etc) which opens up Imperihome to utilize the very powerful scripting, conditionals, virtual devices etc. and allows for some extremely complex systems. The heavy lifting is done in Homeseer and Imperihome links into that. One example I setup was for my heating which is water and I have 6 different thermostats. In homeseer I created a virtual device that is a number or preset temperatures (from 14 to 24C). That device is set up in Imperihome and when a user selects a value, a Homeseer event sets all 6 thermostats to that temperature. What I liked about this is that as non-programmer like myself it was very easy for me to do this in a few minutes, without scripts or programming. The combination works very well together and allows me to have one app on the device to control everything.
      Cheers!
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  • I have several iPad handsets with file sizes about 1MB operating out at customer sites. They have many Feedbacks and up to 15 Devices.

    When their home networks are up to par there is zero delay between pressing a button and seeing the results, such as the channel numbers from a cable box displaying on the screen.
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  • One of the trickiest problems you'll face when micro-optimizing an Android app is that your app is certain to be running on multiple types of hardware.
    192.168.1.1
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  • Don't know if this will help, but my Galaxy Tab 4 is set with a static IP address. Since one of my complaints is that the tablet is always trying to be on the Internet for all the apps I can't stop, I changed the Gateway IP address to an unused IP address in the subnet, i.e. instead of 192.168.1.1, I set it to 192.18.1.254. When I need to get on the Internet, which the only thing I use my Tab 4 is for iRule, I change the IP address to the proper Gateway address, update, then reset the Gateway IP address back to the unused address. Since the tablet cannot get to the Internet, but can reach everything locally, I have noticed some improvement with the operations of iRule.
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