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iRule Alternative Disscusion

I love iRule, for all it's bugs of which I've posted about I have spent dozens (hundreds?) of hours learning feedbacks, variables, macros etc and loved using Se7en template to make great remotes. We have a few years now to find alternatives to iRule so let's start a topic with pictures, examples and hardware compatibility and plenty of discussion.

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  • no Itach is a dealbreaker for me. Why would they stop supporting it?????

    How about settings? Are they saved locally, or do we rely on someone's server again?

    Will it work with iPad 1 and Droid?
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  • Wanted to try TouchControl. Downloaded the App (paid for it) and next tried to download the Windows Server part. All security alarms went off so I switched to a new Virtual Machine and downloaded the TouchControl Windows Server within this 'safe' environment. Windows Defender immediately reported that the downloaded file contained Trojan:Win32/Bitrep.B and quarantined it. Pretty nasty trojan... I reported it on the Touchcontrol website. Any one with similar experience?
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    • I'm using the Windows version
    • Thanks, I was using the Mac version and it wasn't working, at all. I am assuming you have to have the server running at all times in order to use the product. I have a VM with W7, but I don't want to have to keep it on.
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  • Not sure what is going on, I get the updates of this treat as email notifications but they are not updated in this forum... Anyway, ref to the email notifications I've seen (from Rhett Y...) I can say that TouchControl runs rings around iRule big time. For starters, I use the TC Windows (configuration) server, just buying the app gets you nowhere. Next, knowing iRule is not a bonus. You have to get used to the TC interface by asking yourselves how you would like it to work rather than trial and error the iRule way. Once you past the basics, like having the first button to work, then it really gets fun. Especially to get the feedbacks to work and manipulating text and buttons is so much faster. Sliders.. so easy compared to iRule. I control my LG OLED (need to use Global Cache as i/f), Yamaha 2050 receiver (IP), TV decoder (IP), Fibaro Zwave (http based), Hue, and more.. Really there is no limit I can see with TC. Initially the documentation looked complex. After 3 weeks playing with it say 1.5 hour a day I understand > 90% of it. I don’t think it is really difficult for those that got iRule to work.. For me iRule is done and dusted, I would never ever return to its use. Oh and on another comment: background etc is not an issue. For now I made TC look and feel exactly the same as iRule (backgrounds, button images etc etc) so as not to upset my wife (again).
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  • For those with TouchControl, is there gesture control?
    • Yep, no problem. Gesture Pad is a 'Composite' button. So you have 'primary' buttons, main ones being IR commands, Triggers (IP commands) and HTTP requests but there are more. Composite buttons with are macros, sliders, spinners or gesturepads). Then you have label 'buttons', links, scripts, etc etc. Don't worry what it may not have... Ah, only thing I can think of is perhaps the iRule 'Drawer'..Not sure if that is supported.
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  • I just found this app:

    http://www.myuremote.com/website/

    I haven't downloaded it or done anything with it. Was wondering if anyone else has seen or played with it? Look like it handles GC devices, which is a big plus for me.

    http://www.myuremote.com/website/feat...
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  • >>HansW 6 hours ago
    >>Not sure what is going on, I get the updates of this treat as email notifications but >>they are not updated in this forum

    Hans, when readers add a "comment" to a message instead of "reply to this topic" the comment is attached to the original message, no matter how far up the topic it might be. That makes it pretty hard to keep up with "unread messages."

    "Threaded" forum styles are a real pain in the neck.
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  • Thanks dlandiss, you are right. Mystery solved. Thanks.
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    So, with all that has been listed, has anyone had experience with Command Fusion? I think it’s very scalable and works with GC gear as far as I know. And graphics are found fairly easily and available to purchase if you wanted. I’ve looked at it briefly, but haven’t given a ton of effort to learn it. There’s also a very large Google group and Wiki on it.
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  • Q-SYS by QSC!!!!! is a great solution, it's free. you will need a windows machine to run the software in emulation mode on your network!!

    its app works identical and has more features than irule.

    i have started the my own transition to this, its a shame irule was the best!!
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  • Hello

    In order for everyone to have a better overview of the possible alternatives to iRule, I would suggest to create a community managed table with the main features for each solution.
    I have just created a first version of this table on Excel, but I can't upload it here...
    Anyone has a suggestion on how to proceed? In particular does anyone know of an online table editor for multiple users, so that everyone sould view / contribute, which I think is the only way?
    Maybe Google sheets, but I think it forces everyone to have an account, and I would prefer something really straight forward.

    Thanks
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  • ok, I think I have found a solution to do it, based on RowShare, hopefully it will work well:

    If you just want to view the spreadsheet (not much content in there yet):
    https://www.rowshare.com/t/ab9d3f6029...

    if you want to modify the spreadsheet (we need your contributions) I give you the full login details as i have created the Rowshare account just for this purpose

    Login here:
    https://www.rowshare.com/LogIn

    username: replaceirule@gmail.com
    password: replaceirule

    I have tried to populate with most of the comments found in this post already, but if you have experience with a specific solution, please contribute it will help us all.
    Please feel free to change the structure of the spreadhseet, add / edit content as my initial version is just an attempt to get it going.
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  • @Olivier,

    Maybe do a public dropbox folder?

    Edit, Your second comment didn't show up when I posted this.
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  • Perhaps because "Comments" are attached to the original message, not the bottom of the thread?

    Folks, "Comments" just make this thread harder to read. Please use "Reply" instead.
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  • I’m happy
    Well, I've spent the weekend playing around with TouchControl, as a replacement for Irule :-(
    After some frustration attempting LightwaveRF integration, I now have a working solution for controlling LightwaveRF devices (Lights, Sockets etc) and Global Caché connected devices. Although it has a number of quirks Compared to Irule for the cost I don't think you can knock it (£6.99 for the Iphone app and a further £1.99 for the Global Caché in app upgrade, < £10 :-) plus free TC server)

    I've only tinkered around the edges with this software but I'm pretty confident it can/will fulfill my need by the time the Irule server is switched off.

    Ps
    The server crashed a couple of times while learning IR codes using TC's inbuild IR learn option I did'nt lose data after restarting the server, which by the way is only needed to build designs and while downloading configurations to devices.
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  • So,

    I just returned to this forum after a few years (once I had my iRule all working like I wanted) due to the latest iRule update disabling my iPad 2 (ios 9.3.5).

    Reading between the lines on this thread, I take it that iRule is definitely going away at some future date? Due to the company being acquired?

    If they don't fix the update that knocked out all ios older than 11, I need an alternative right away, but it sounds like I will need one eventually either way?

    Sad news, iRule has served me well for over 3 years without hardly any intervention.

    Looks like TouchControl is the leading contender right now?

    I use IP to control a Yamaha A/V receiver, a Sony Bluray player, a DirecTV box, an iCache IP2IR and an ISY 944i for insteon lights.
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  • @alex watson

    Alex, as you have laready spent quite some time on assessing TouchControl, would you mind sharing with us some basic info on the solution by feeing out the community managed spreadsheet created for helping us all find the best alternative to iRule (see login info above)?

    I see that some of you have already contributed to this spreadsheet, thanks it should be very useful to everyone.
    Personally I cannot try every single solution on the market, and I have some specific requirements, so this will be a great time saver :)
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  • Olivier, I updated the spreadsheet earlier with my understanding and views of TouchControl and welcome onboard Alex with TouchControl! I shared my experience in this forum above as well. Based on feedback from others I also played around a little with Demopad, but once I tried feedback functionality and read the manual on this aspect I immediately stopped. Far from what I want and need: all Demopad feedback allows is yes/no decisions, at least that is my understanding. What if I want to show volume level or light intensity level in my remote? In the meantime I went on with TouchControl and checked the ‘Feedback Slicing’ capability that was recently added. This makes ‘basic’ feedback possible that can be configured similar, yet easier, compared to iRule. For advanced feedback one can use Javascript which delivers virtually unlimited capability if you ask me.
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  • Can anyone confirm that Demopad feedback is yes/no type decisions only?
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    • Yes, thnaks, you are correct and now found that option. Perhaps a bit misleading info in the manual but by the looks of it you can parse data and use it in a label.
    • If you pay the monthly fee you get the pro builder. There in the builder you can send out IP commands and see the returned data. makes it really nice for parsing.
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  • I have been using DemoPad now for about two weeks. I ended up purchasing the iOS software for $30 and with the latest update of iRule killing anything under iOS 11 forced me to really dive in. Having said that, I have rebuilt my entire remote under iRule with DemoPad and then some. I have officially left iRule.

    Is it better, that will be up to the end user to decide. Do I like it. Yup! Is it different and different way of thinking on how to do something, yup.

    I have not purchased the cloud option which brings in the pro builder part of the software. So I can't comment on that.

    But overall I am actually really happy with the software and while it is different, it is incredible powerful and in some areas more so than iRule.

    Like all good software, there is a learning curve. But then again, there was a learning curve with iRule. I was able to rebuild everything in a few hours once I learned the DemoPad way.
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    • @MPG732, are you MPG7321 one from AVSFORUM.com?

      If so, wanted to say thank you!
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  • Ok I've been spending a bit of time trying to find an alternative to iRule, like most of us here. Obviously there isn't one solution fits all needs. It really depends on how we are currently using iRules and what we like about it.
    Here are my initial findings for some of the solutions:

    DemoPad: no Android version (an issue for me). I got lost in the myrid of hardware options (what is IP Control Gateway for instance, in iRule IP control was just software...) that I could not understand the purpose of, but this is probably not a real issue. Documentation exists and seems to cover a lot (good thing to get started). User Interface seems fully customizable which is a must for me. Did not see any integration with third pary solutions such as Sonsos or Vera for instance which is important for me, so the system looked limited to me.

    Simple Control: the concept, somehow similar to Harmony with automatic creation of screen design based on device loading seemed very attractive to save time. The look and feel of the app really attracted me initially but I gave up for 2 main reasons: UI is not fully configurable (can only reorganize existing designs / buttons) and product integration with external solution seemed light (I tried Sonos to realize that I had no access to public playlists and my flow for instance).

    Touch Control: have not tried it yet but want to.

    The Home Remote: looks very promising bu I still don't undersand if i is a commercial project (have not found pricing) or just something Bill is doing as a hobby (he seems very responsive on hs user forums). I have installed th designe on my PC, not very intuitive, bu it seems quite flexible and hopefully will provide full design capability. the philosophy seems to be a mix between Simple Control (automatic Screen Creation for each device) and iRule (ability to creat design from scratch) which is nice (although automatically created design looks poor).
    Wharely impresed me, especially if this is a non commercial project in the number of third party solutions supported (Vera, Sonos, Homeseer, GlobalCaché....) and even more the quality of integration. I tried Sonos and could find a very thourough integration (much better than with iRule which was very poor).
    I cannot believe just one guy built all this.
    On the down side so far, documentation is close to zero (sorry I have not really found it, maybe it's me), but the user forum seems reactive.
    So I will spend more time on this solution.

    Olivier
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  • So I have the HAI/Leviton module connected to iRule, which allows me to control my lights, security system, and thermostats. The interface on iRule is fairly simple and I'm not looking for anything too complicated -- do any of the proposed replacements (e.g. Simple Control, Demo Pad, etc.) allow for interface with the Leviton Omni IIe system?
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  • Bill comments on the Home Remote forum on his plans to offer a pricing model TBD sometime later this year. Right now it is free to use but does accept donations via a link at http://thehomeremote.com

    I went with Home Remote myself. It is really the first alternative to iRule that I ventured into so I really can't compare it to other alternatives. It suits my HA needs very well. Support from Bill is spot on. I had asked for instruction for a few different things and I promptly received a clear how to explanation with sample file to demonstrate. If what I needed to achieve was not supported at that time in just about every instance the feature was added in a couple of days. If you read the Home Remote forum you will see this over and over. Bill is really receptive to his end users input and really goes out of the way to implement requested features. I have attached a gif of part of my Home Remote build.

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    • Browse the iRule library for brushed. Click the eyeball on the set you want and drag and drop one icon at a time to your desktop. Rename before you drop the next one. Also if you are on Android all the buttons in your iRule build are on your device in a folder called android/data/ com.irule.activity/cache /images
    • Thanks for the tip. I managed to copy most of the buttons I use on iRule on to my desktop so I can now try to work out the best way to program my rooms, activities etc.,

      Thanks again.
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  • DemoPad does have Android. You have to request it from support and side load the app. Most IP just use a generic IP. I use that for GC RS232 that I use. If you are a monthly subscriber, there pro builder and email support is great. I found it to be easier to program then iRule. I have been able to recreate every thing from iRule. One of the best features is the ability to resize graphic in the builder. I highly recommend them.
    • thanks for reminding that Demopad does have an Android version, I had seen a discussion about it but forgot. The fact that you have to request it from support is worth knowing though. I'll update the spreadsheet.
    • Another plus is that HomeRemote also runs on Windows which is a refreshing change. I am currently using the HR Designer and it is so much easier to have the app running on my PC as well - easy to test as the hrp is so easily accessible without having to download/upload it.

      Based on this I am getting more inclined to switch my iRule system to HomeRemote.
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  • Karn, thanks for sharing.
    I have also just found a section on TheHomeRemote forum where users share some screen shots of their own creation
    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!top...
    this is giving me a boost to really get into the solution.
    It seems most users are more into Home Automation, but also with some Home Theater components.
    The good news is that Home Automation is the future for me, and iRule was admitedly not very strong in the field :)
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  • Hi Oliver,

    I found iRule good for home automation, you can work wonders with PLEG, Virtual Switches and Vera. I learned quickly that the Vera plugin was no where near enough and manual http commands and custom variables and feedbacks made it more functional.

    John
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    • John I saw you comment somewhere that you have tried NetIO, Demopad and H.R. Do you have a frontrunner yet? I've spent some time with each and am having a hard time making a choice to move forward.
    • Hi Greg,

      I found NetIO a bit basic, although "enjoyed" learning regular expressions, I havent really tried Demopad to the point where I could recommend it - I am starting to like the home remote. It has similar features to irule and great support from Bill.

      Ive just gotten my head around variables and the basics for HR so doing some tinkering over the next few days. There are a lot of irulers over on HR forum now - some of the big contributors here (KarnEvil helped me a lot over the past year as an example)
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  • Ok, for those trying DemoPad, have you found reliable control of Sonos? I found commands but haven’t incorporated them yet. Also, is the Pro Version that much better other than 2 extra projects?
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  • I’m confident
    Having a large iRule setup, I was worried that I would not find a replacement.
    However, I have started to transfer my setup to HomeRemote and so far so good.
    Bill ( the designer) is absolutely great at replying , normally within hours and he is constantly updating the system. At the present time, he is adapting his system to cover variables and some other nuances which will improve the system even more

    If you ask a question, you will get swift answers and in many cases , documented ways to overcome your problem. I am based in the UK and whilst HomeRemote is in the USA, that does not seem to hamper replies !!

    I am slowly adapting to this system (which works in different ways) but I am confident I will be able to replicate my iRule system on it.
    One MASSIVE advantage over iRule is that you are able to test your additions/alterations straight away as the HomeRemote Designer program has a simulator built in so you can actually test as you go along - saves a lot of time in uploading, downloading etc. as the code is actually on your own PC!!!

    I am sure iRule users will be able to switch to HomeRemote once they understand the different logic and protocols.

    Peter
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    • So I thought I was going to Demopad, but once I dug in, I had a few crashes and couldn't get the designer to fit my screen quite right. The designer seemed half-baked (for android at least). I then dug back in to Home Remote and it feels so much more polished but I will say that I was able to wrap my head around Demopad's logic quickly while Home Remote is taking me a long time. Canvas, grid, page browser....there are so many different ways to accomplish the same thing and I can't quite figure out which is right or correct. Instead of simply dragging an image to the screen, then telling the designer that I want to link that image to another page in the design, or to a command, it doesn't seem to be that straight forward. Button, image button, hyperlink button, image, web image? Again, there seem to be a dozen ways to do the same thing - I kind of wish it were more straight forward. It seems unnecessarily convoluted. But as everyone always says, Bill is over the top amazing. He can always figure out what I need, but I guess I'm having a hard time learning. I will look at other sample projects to take notes on how they did the things that I want to do and every one is different - again, 10 ways to accomplish the same thing.

      Were there any great tools you used to learn the logic that maybe I'm missing?
    • Hey Greg, There really isn't a right or wrong way. It really depends on what you most comfortable with. I'm always happy to help guide you. Here's a few notes I put together for you regarding some of your comments.

      Canvas / Grid

      Start with the Grid. Most of the examples posted on thehomeremote.com were created before the introduction of the Grid control. The only scenario I've been recommending the Canvas is this. There were a couple iRule users using a background image as the entire page's UI. They were controlling their devices by placing transparent buttons on top of that. To get these buttons to line up with the background image the Canvas is a better choice as it uses absolute positioning. Both Canvas & Grid layouts are designed the same through drag & drop positioning. Difference is the Grid use Margins & the Canvas absolute positions like Top & Left. The use of Grid columns & rows is not necessary but they can help you design an interface that adapts well to varying screen sizes.

      PageBrowser
      The PageBrowser is more of a convenience control. It comes in handy when you find your Grid layout becoming crowded & hard to manage. You can split that pages content into several smaller pages making it easier maintain. It also allows you to create reusable controls that can be displayed within other pages.

      Button / ImageButton
      These both do the same thing. If you want your button to display text, use the Button. If you want your button to display an image, use the ImageButton. All commands are sent through device variables. I'd really have to know what type of device you're controlling but, just as an example, say you want to add a button to mute a Sonos speaker.

      #1 - Select your Sonos device on DEVICES tab
      #2 - Click "New" button on bottom left to create a variable
      #3 - Type any variable name you want in dialog & select the "player_mute" attribute. For this example, assume I typed "MySonosMute" for the name.
      #4 - Draw a new instance of the Button control on the Grid.
      #5 - Expand the Text property & set Text to "Mute my Sonos" (or whatever)
      #6 - Click the "Clicked" event button.
      #7 - Type the line of code App.SetVariable("MySonosMute", true)

      There are actually 2 ways to associate send commands.

      #1 - Write a JavaScript for the button's Clicked event like I did above. For most iRule users I've been recommending this. It's very flexible. You can write your own macros & program your own logic in the JavaScript. You can read more about it here in the Google Group
      https://groups.google.com/d/msg/theho...

      #2 - The 2nd option is to set the button's StateVariable & OnState properties. This works great for lights & other device that have 2 discrete states & provide feedback.

      HyperlinkButton
      For most circumstances, use the Button control. Everything you can do with the HyperlinkButton can also be done with the Button through JavaScript. Only use Hyperlink if you need the Text underlined.

      Image
      Displays an image that is stored in your project (HRP file). Your comments on dragging images onto the design surface are something frequently echoed in the Home Remote Google Group. Expect changes to this sometime soon.

      WebImage
      Displays an image that is hosted on the web & accessed from a URL. Most of the time this control is used for displaying snapshots from IP Cameras. It's also commonly used to display music artwork for devices like Sonos.
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  • Hello Greg,

    The logic is more difficult to get to grips with but I am finding that with trial and error I am getting to grips with its logic.
    As I stated before, the Simulator is great in helping you understand and eventually getting things right. If not, Bill is very, very helpful and great at explaining things. He even adapts your design to assist you.

    So far I cannot fault it and am really starting to understand the logic although it does look frightening at first.

    So the best tool is trial and error!!
    Peter
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  • John can you elaborate on what’s similar to iRule? I tried it on my Mac running Windows in Bootcamp. I didn’t have a mouse, only a trackpad and it was miserable. I should try again with a mouse and see if I can move things better. Every time I tried moving an object it blew up and made a mess of the project.
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  • HI Erik,

    I think the complexity is similar to irule and as such the opportunity to make something bespoke. I am also using a mac, although using VMware as I dont have space for bootcamp. Ive not had any real issues with layout but its a pain having to use the vmware i must admit but this of course is nothing to do with home remote.

    I like the fact you can use variables, sliders etc. My next challenge is to learn some scripting. Ironically all the packages handle feedback differently, jsonpath, regex and irule manual suffix, prefix - all need learning depending on your choice,
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  • Hi, I'm trying HomeRemote as as an alternative to iRule. Would I be right in thinking it is only possible to add devices when you are in a live networked environment and the designer can actually see connected devices? In iRule I would design the interface over a period of a few days, adding the devices and then going to my client site where the equipment is installed in order to test the setup.

    Thanks,
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  • It is not necessary to be on the local network. The only exception may be (????) for some of the auto generated pages but that is an option. You can choose not to add auto generated pages.
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  • When I start a new project the HomeRemote help system suggests I add devices but when I do it starts to look for the devices and then says it cannot find any of those I have chosen. Is the correct procedure to instaed add virtual devices or am I barking up the wrong tree?
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  • what type of device are you adding? Have you posted on their google group... bill is quick to answer
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  • It's any device from the point where I create a new project. If I add Sonos it picks that up as I have some on my network but anything not connected cannot be added.

    I will leave a message for Bill, I just started looking at HR today so I am probably doing doig something stupid :)
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  • Perhaps you do need the devices present initially to add to designer and then afterwards you can design remotely. Best to ask Bill on the HR forum.
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  • Yes, maybe. I've posted a question to him.

    Thanks for your help.
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  • The more I get into Home Remote, the more I believe it is an ideal replacement for iRule. I am making real progress in creating my replacement set up and learning how the HR protocols work.
    I believe I will be able to completely replicate my iRule set up (which is pretty complex!!) on Home Remote.
    Bill at Home Remote is really, really helpful if you have a problem or need advice (replies almost immediately and I am in the UK!!) and he is constantly improving the system.
    With one or two minor "tweaks" , I think Home Remote will be even better that iRule.
    Once again, I cannot stress how important one feature is.
    To be able to test your design in its Simulator, if it works, and save it before moving on to the next addition to the system is fantastic. To do this on iRule meant uploading it then downloading to your device before finding out it didn't do what you expected!

    Peter
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  • Hi Peter,
    From comments from you and others it indeed looks that Home Remote is a very good alternative to iRule. I went the Touch Control route and that definitely fits the bill for me and I too believe it goes way beyond the iRule functionality. From some playing and also what I read about DemoPad that product seems to be quite a good alternative too. So my understanding is that there are at least 3 good alternatives to iRule as it seems! Key differentiator to me is that Home Remote and TouchControl are ‘one man shows’ (resp. Bill and Dave) and DemoPad seems to be more of a commercial product that may survive for a longer time, who knows. For now I stay with Touch Control and feel comfortable to know there will be alternatives around when I need it.
    Cheers,
    Hans
    • Sometimes the bigger you are the harder you fall or development is limited due to corporate politics, the need for approval, etc......The greatest thing that has impressed me the most about Bill from Home Remote is his willingness to listen to the Home Remote user, implement feature requests that make sense, even if it is a solution for only a single person. I believe it is because he has a passion for this stuff. Try that with a bigger entity. Can you imagine calling Apple, a company known for great customer support and asking for a feature to be added to one of their products. It's not going to happen.
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  • I have been very happy with DemoPad. Though it looks like its really only for IOS. looks like Android is very glitchy. Support has been great. They always get back to me with in a day. When I was getting started, I was having issue getting DemoPad to communicate with EventGhost. SO support asked me to send them a backup of my EG so they could take a look at it. They admitted that no one has ever asked about EG and that they have never used it. With in a day they got back to me with a solution.
    So its always a risk on which product we choose. No one can say how long a App will be around for. The thing I don't like about a 1 man App like Home Control is how long can that one person keep up. As more features are added, usually means more problems down the road. How long can one guy keep it up. Especially when there is a limited revenue stream. At some point some thing has to give. So I am concerned for longevity of any of these Apps.
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