iTach Classic vs iTach Flex

I am looking foward buying a new iTach to connect a hdmi switch via rs232.

Wondering if I should go with a Classic iTach IP2SL or with the iTach Flex FLEXIP with a FLEX-RS232

I have been using the classic iTach IP2IR for many years and love how reliable it is.. I would totally order a iTach IP2SL but I am curious if the Flex would be a better purshase on the long run, will Global Cache discontinue the classic iTach and only support the Flex in the future?

Is the iTach Flex as stable as the classic iTach are?

I would guess the Flex probably have a better hardware that will maybe allow it to have a longuer life.

is the iTach Flex as friendly to implement with iRule as the classic iTach
I think the iTach Flex are limited to 8 connection, was the Classic iTach more than that? (even if I may never reach 8 connections)

Is there any drawback or avantage for one or ther other?

The Wireless flex support faster wireless technology (not limited to wireless b) but I am going wired anyway so it dosn't affect my choice at this point.

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  • HI Daniel,

    I am going to answer this thread and leave the others alone for the time being.

    Global cache has moved priority to the Flex units. As far as I know the iTach will not be receiving new updates for WIFI chips or network connections.

    The Flex supports the same amount of connections 8 for IR and 4 for serial as the iTach units. The big difference is support more WIFI networks b,n and g. The configuration pages looks completely different and does take a little adjustment to learn the nuances to setup for serial or ir control. Another benefit is the choice of serial cable. Instead of requiring multiple serial cables for straight vs null cable you have an internal setting within the configuration to select which control you require straight vs crossover.

    My prior comment saying I would suggest the iTach was a year ago. The Flex has been updated and I have used both hardware pieces in the office and my personal setup. Both work very well. I have a Flex WIFI with a tri-port to control a TV and AppleTV that has been very reliable.

    Scott
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  • I'm having a tough time finding this out; but, do the iTach and Flex both support the same number of device inputs? I have 5 IR and 1 that could be IR or RS232. It seems like the IP2IR supports 6 connections, but only IR. Does the Flex support 6 devices, as well? Maybe I'm looking at it wrong, but it seems like only 3.

    I'd rather only buy one, and was hoping it would be the Flex because of it supporting both IR and RS232.
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  • Mason, don't confuse "inputs" and "outputs." There is a limit (maybe 4?) to the number of input connections -- think handsets, iPads, controllers, whatever -- but no known limit to to the number of controlled devices if you use, for example, an infrared blaster.

    Without the blaster the specified limit of a regular iTach is 6 IR devices: 3 dual-head emitters.

    I have not been able to find out if dual-head emitters can be used on the Flex. A device is sold that names "dual head" but a close look at it suggests that it is really a blaster and two single emitters wired to the three Flex ports.
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  • Sorry for the use of the word "input." I was just referring to the number of devices that can be connected via the 3.5 female connectors on the iTach and the single one on the Flex. The flex has a triple head adapter, but I wasn't sure if the amount of times it can be split off is limited to just that one time (3 total).

    A blaster would work for me for a few devices, but not all. At least 3 will need emitters stuck on (two in a different room with an extension run, and one is a duplicate device that can't be blasted). I actually have two devices with serial option, but one doesn't provide feedback.

    Long story short: I have 4 IR only devices, and 2 IR or RS232 (one of which I would prefer to be RS232). I was hoping for one device to connect them all that would still allow for multiple connections (not the 100 series).

    Flex with a 1 to 3 adapter, and each of those having a dual adapter would do the trick, and I can use two flex serial cables to connect the RS232 devices. Possible?
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  • Mason,

    The Flex cannot be split to control serial and IR devices. If you are using IR you can control 3 devices using the tri port cable ( I admit I have not tested using dual emitters of the tri port cable to control up to 6 devices)

    If you are using RS232 you can only control one device at a time using the Flex.
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  • The 1 to 3 adapter is just good for IR..
    Flex serial cant share the flex with IR

    Did you tried to use a Stereo 3.5mm Splitter?
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  • Daniel,

    No, I don't actually own anything yet, just trying to see what to get.

    I thought I saw that the Flex could do both IR and RS232 (which made the Flex name make sense). That's really what was tripping me up. I don't need to spend an extra $100 to have feedback for one device, but if I could just mix and match, then I would have bought whatever $10 adapter was needed.

    Knowing I can't mix means I'll just go with the IP2IR and 3 dual emitters.
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  • There is a gripe on the Roomie support site that the GC100 device is outdated and causes problems when multiple IP connections are made to it. I take it with a grain of salt because the Roomie folks just introduced a complete set of there own iTach look-alikes, which they now sell. However I don't think they would post that if there is not some truth there (??). Anyone know about this limitation?

    On Topic: the iTach units use the exact same internals as the GC100 (just less of it), so I would wonder if they have the same limitation. I also wonder if the newer Flex devices don't have the limitation (newer archictecure, new chip, better firmware, whatever). This confirms my answer to your post: why not take the newer units anyway? I don't see anything the lost in the newer design. (ok I did not try dual emitters on the Flex either, but I think that is technically beyond the spec for either of them)

    Again, I don't know this first hand but the problem described is that when multiple iPads try to address the device, it can only handle one at a time, causing failed transmissions. (not queuing, which would not be a problem)

    Maybe someone from Global Cache can give us the real scoop, rather than quoting Roomies possibly unfair critique.
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  • >> the iTach units use the exact same internals as the GC100 <<

    Not really. The network of the iTach can support multiple connections, and the blaster circuit is also different. I suspect that the regular IR driver circuit is different also but have not measured it.
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  • ok, I don't have the schematics of either, but this was based on a comment from GC folks at Cedia.

    More intriguingly from your post: can you confirm that the iTach can handle multiple connections and the GC100 can not?
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  • Well there you go! It is very nicely spec'd here on iRule's website. Not so much on the Global Cache website where I bought the unit :( (I went back to look again and can't find that "little detail")
    The Roomie website highly advertised the GC 100 last summer, and then dumped it in favor of their own clone. Now it looks like this was at least for a good reason.

    (also see Scott's post on a different thread just now:
    " The benefit to both the iTach and Flex units over the GC series are current connections. The GC series will only allow for one handset to control the GC at a time, and the iTach & Flex units will allow for multiple connections at any given time. "
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  • Alex (Official Rep) January 10, 2015 04:42
    iTach Flex actually allows 8 connections even for RS232.

    Alex
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