Slidescreen as a Widget

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I think it would be useful if you could include an option to make this a widget that takes an entire homescreen, for those that want to keep their home screen but like this interface also, with no loss of features, and possibley less resource intensive than it is currently. It would also benefit from having some multitouch gesture support, such as swiping to get to other options.
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That would be a great Idea, I was thinking if I could have this as the center screen and the rest of home to each side that would be cool.

I think that having the main slide screen do this is not a great idea though, I think it should be a second product so it does not muddle up or blot the main slide screen.
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What do you mean about the main slide screen not doing this?
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Matt depending on your device, as an example I have 7 "home" screens that I can swipe between. I hit the home and it returns to the "center" home of the 7. In my case its Weather, Time, and my most used short cuts.

Swipe to the left and you have my BT, WiFi, GPS and Airplane Mode widgets along with my Clock, Slide Screen, Market, Albums

Swipe right of "home" being me to : Gmail, Facebook, Twitter, Camera, CamCorder etc

I think the full screen widget is a kick A$$ idea

Need to get some more app integration going as well.

-Robert
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This is an interesting idea, we'll look into it and see how feasible it is to implement within the widget framework.
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My intention was to let you set it anywhere, though you're right, it would work better if it was on the center home screen. And possibley test running it in the free version so people who have paid for it will get a refined version once users give their feedback. I suggest the free version only because it would not turn away users from the product if there was problems with the first interation of it than there would be if it was implented on the paid version and it happened to be buggy.
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Personally, I'd see the resource usage as actually being higher than the homescreen, because the default homescreen AND slidescreen would be in use at the same time.

I would prefer a set of sideways tabs, so that more data can be put on subsequent screens. Perhaps rudimentary widget support could be added for the other screens.
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Yes having it purely as a widget would load the system, that is why I suggested having a widget as a separate download and the home screen/app as its own download.
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Or, as mentioned in other places, implement multiple panels 'to the sides' that work like home screens as far as accepting shortcuts and widgets.. but only have one home application loaded at once thanks. ;)
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I meant it to have the option of setting it as a widget, not turning the app into a widget. That way you can still have your stock homescreens available, minus the one it is running on. Which should not have an effect on the system resources, since your stock homescreen is running in the background regardless. Set Slidescreen as your default, look under your settings, applications, manage applications, press the menu button, filter the results to running apps and look for Ahome. This is your stock home screen. It's always running.
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Yes it could be turned i to a widget but all you are going then if you do not split the widget from the standard app is BLOTTED code with a huge download and foot print on your phone.

Why not just offer the app one that we have now. AND a seperate download for a widget version that way BOTH are smaller faster and better then if combined in to a monster of a program.
Remember people "Keep It Simple Silly "
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Other apps have an option for a widget placed on the homescreen, along with the main app. So I'm not sure why it would take up a lot of space. The weather channel, for example doesn't and it's an app with the ability to set a widget on the homescreen. All I proposed was to make the widget take over one homescreen, leaving the others free to be whatever else.
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Love this idea,b/c i still keep switching between my old homescreen and Slidescreen. I'd love for it to be on the center page, and still be able to swipe to get to new homescreen pages. The way it's designed now it sort of defeats the purpose of having multiple page homescreen. I do love the app though - paid for the pro version b/c i want to support the developers.
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How about having slidescreen act as well, the lock screen? Think flyscreen, just cooler :)
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Flyscreen works on the lock screen? Might have to check that out. thx.
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The company has already said that they aren't planning to have it replace the lockscreen currently because it's not offically supported by google. Flyscreen does it in such a way it won't work on all versions of Android.
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ok...checked out flyscreen and graphics aren't nearly as nice as slidescreen. definitely like the widget idea still.
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I think this is the best implementation of Slidescreen. Making the choice between the regular home screen and Slidescreen is tough. A lock screen would be a great " heads-up" of what happend since you last checked your phone-- which is really what it is great for...
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I think this is the best implementation of Slidescreen. Making the choice between the regular home screen and Slidescreen is tough. A lock screen would be a great " heads-up" of what happend since you last checked your phone-- which is really what it is great for...
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If this was made as a widget, even if the widget was an added cost and required the full version, I would pay for both but until then, I'll probably just stick with the free version and use it as an app. I don't want to loose my 7 screens, other widgets and quick links
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Awesome idea... I would love to dedicate one of my home screens to this.. but not my entire phone.... I would use this 100% as a widget (taking 1 screen) and 0% as a standalone app. Not trying to be harsh, but just to help the developers get a better understanding of my position.

Hope the devs make this happen
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This would be GREAT for those of us that don't want to sacrifice all their home screens for SlideScreen. I would love to have this as my "dashboard" with Android home screens to the left and right. Not many people can go from 3-7 screens to just 1.
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I feel the same way, I still find myself trying to swipe to the left or right to get to my other homescreens. It's an amazing app, but would be better if it had an option to be set as a "dashboard" as you call it.
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All good points. Just wondering what it is exactly that everyone is missing with this as a home replacement. Understandable that you want the extra screens but just wondering what it is that you are using the other screens for that you can't do currently with SlideScreen as home. If we know what those things are maybe Larva Labs would be able to add some of those missing features that you guys are using.
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For me, I'm missing the ability to go to the market straight from the home screen, the ability to use folders, the Google quick search box, the power control widget, quick access to my battery use, running services, etic. Which is why it would be useful if Slidescreen had an option to be set as a "dashboard." Not saying that Slidscreen can't remain in it's current state, just with this as an extra option.
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Actually, it's *exactly* about Larva Labs NOT having to implement more and more features that make this request a good idea.

I've got a Foursquare and Remember the Milk widget on my homescreens now -- I don't expect that to be merged into Slidescreen.

I also use the music player widget.

And who knows what other features I might want.

If they were to have all those features incorporated into Slidescreen, you would have one bloated app.

Best to pick what Slideshow does well, and do it better than any other app/widget.
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Exactly. The bigger the app, the greater chance something can go wrong.
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i'm pretty fond of live wallpaper, myself.
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Just thought of something else. Maybe the devs can back me up on this.. but given the amount of MEM SlideScreen takes up as a home replacement and the amount of MEM Android Launcher takes up.. running a widget of SlideScreen along with another Android Launcher may be a bit much for most phones. Just a thought. Hopefully this wouldn't be the case however.
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Looks like my testing is supporting your theory as well.
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That's good. So now people can fully understand that it doesn't matter if this is set as a widget or a homescreen replacement, the same amount of RAM is used in either case.
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Cool. Looks that way at this point. : )
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Yep. Now all we need is for the company to decide to include it in a future release.
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no, it does matter. android will kill the default launcher if enough ram is requested by active apps.

android kills apps that haven't been accessed (or are low priority) in order to make room for more recent or important apps. so while launcher may be set to start up, it would be killed if you opened a bunch of apps, and wouldn't be brought up again until something called it (usually it's the homescreen button that would call launcher)

sidebar: the AMOUNT of free ram doesn't really matter, just that there is. if you're using 80% of your ram and never more, then you should be running just as fast as someone who constantly kills tasks so that only 20% is used. it gets tricky when you constantly use enough ram to require android to kill a process, then try to return to the process.
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The default homescreen is registered to start at bootup and do a few things, so that's probably why it shows up at first. What I'm wondering if if you don't use it will it get kicked out of memory once you get low, and then stay out. That might make a difference in memory availability over time.
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I haven't noticed that, but then again my memeory hardly gets low. It's a good point, something I hadn't thought of.
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This would be amazing. I've got a lot of customization on my home screen, so I don't want to replace the whole thing with slidescreen-- but if I could replace a single homescreen panel with slidescreen, that would be AMAZING.
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Same, which is why I suggested this idea, and it seems like a lot of people really like the idea too.
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Just one more vote for this idea.

I love the way the "streams" are implemented but I'm not sure I'm ready to completely get rid of the original android interface. Just as a note, the stock android calendar widget takes over 4 icon spaces, and that kills a quarter of my center home screen. I would be MORE than willing to sacrifice the rest for your app built as a widget!
Great Product!
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I love the ideas behind slidescreen, but I loose so much functionality from my phone (power widgets, shortcuts to contacts, folders, etc) that I cannot justify giving all that up for the very usable slidescreen. If this were a widget, or one home screen of 3, 5 or whatever, I would use it every day. I love that it pulls so much information together so seamlessly, but at this point it costs me so much functionality that I cant use it.

Let's see a slidesceen widget!
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I love the product, but am not currently using for the exact same reasons. Please please make the change. :)
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Here is an ugly mockup of what I would like in slidescreen. A bar at the top/bottom that I can slide down/up uncovering my standard android home screen with desktops adding a couple of actions to fill some space - quick access to browser, maps, dialpad and button to toggle play and pause. Slidescreen would thus become and advanced notification area instead keeping the old home screen.
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I like that... I would pay for those additions.
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(Sorry - not "keeping" but "replacing" my old home screen (thinking faster than typing)). I would like to keep my old home screen for widgets, icons, etc, but I love slidescreen for allowing me to have a quick glimpse of what's going on and a instant way to react to it. I just can not see the slidescreen API, however wonderful when published, competing with the default android widget API (unless slidescreen will be free and preinstalled as a default homepage). Te way I see it, integrating the android home API into slidescreen as is (without developers tweaking their widgets to reflect slidescreen needs), is not realistic at the moment or in distant future (feel free to prove me wrong). Having area within / or accessible outside slidescreen for the standard android widgets is thus a necessity. What wee need is the best of both worlds!

PS: slidescreen is the best android app - even mobile app (I use winmo as well as iphone) - i have ever seen! Let's make it THE app that is going to define our mobile experience!
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(Sorry - not "keeping" but "replacing" my old home screen (thinking faster than typing)). I would like to keep my old home screen for widgets, icons, etc, but I love slidescreen for allowing me to have a quick glimpse of what's going on and a instant way to react to it. I just can not see the slidescreen API, however wonderful when published, competing with the default android widget API (unless slidescreen will be free and preinstalled as a default homepage). Te way I see it, integrating the android home API into slidescreen as is (without developers tweaking their widgets to reflect slidescreen needs), is not realistic at the moment or in distant future (feel free to prove me wrong). Having area within / or accessible outside slidescreen for the standard android widgets is thus a necessity. What wee need is the best of both worlds!

PS: slidescreen is the best android app - even mobile app (I use winmo as well as iphone) - i have ever seen! Let's make it THE app that is going to define our mobile experience!
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Nxtwrld, what are you trying to say? You lost me at "competing with default android widget API" I think you might have some good points, but I'm slightly confused as to what you are trying to get across. Are you saying you want Slidescreen intergrated into the Android OS? And that it won't be possible for some time?
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Someone should give this idea to google. Because the old notifcation system just isn't working now, and this would greatly improve it. Iphone still doesn't have a good notification system and this would kill it completely.
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What I meant was: there is a widget API for android home screen and app developers are creating widget for the standard home screen. I can not image that these can be ever integrated with slidescreen without at least significantly modifying their visual format to match slidescreen concept.

I consider this modification an extra work for the developers/designers of apps and widgets who will always look at the market share of a home screen app and decide whether to support it. I can imagine any home replacement app having ever a larger market share than the standard android home app. Most homescreen widgets will therefor always be developed for the standard home and it would come really handy to be able to access them. Unlike most other home replacement apps, slidescreen does not have to be a complete replacement of the standard home, but can become an enhancement that works on top of it.
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So it's not likely for Slidescreen to become what you mentioned above,but having it as a widget on one of the homescreens is likely/possible?
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Hey - have any of you seen the 'home switch' idea posted a few threads down? It's the same idea, for those of you who miss your 3 (7) screens, only instead of a widget, it's a shortcut icon on slidescreen that launches your standard home as an app. Still let's you switch back and forth quickly, but it seems like a lot less resource usage and easier to implement.

(By the way, for those of you with openhome - you can get by on a mock-up of this by setting open home as one of your shortcuts. It's a lot nicer than having to choose every time you hit the home button (since you can set ss as your default this way), but I'm still pushing for a shortcut I don't have to hit the settings button for.)
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has anyone suggested to just have the menu button launch the android homescreen, seeing as how the slidescreen launcher is redundant? the only issue is where to put the slidescreen settings, but i think the devs are clever enough to figure that out...maybe it adds a line to the phone settings (is that possible?)

this way, home will always take you to slidescreen, and menu will take you to apps, just like it is, but you still get live wallpapers, widgets, etc.
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has anyone suggested to just have the menu button launch the android homescreen, seeing as how the slidescreen launcher is redundant? the only issue is where to put the slidescreen settings, but i think the devs are clever enough to figure that out...maybe it adds a line to the phone settings (is that possible?)

this way, home will always take you to slidescreen, and menu will take you to apps, just like it is, but you still get live wallpapers, widgets, etc.
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has anyone suggested to just have the menu button launch the android homescreen, seeing as how the slidescreen launcher is redundant? the only issue is where to put the slidescreen settings, but i think the devs are clever enough to figure that out...maybe it adds a line to the phone settings (is that possible?)

this way, home will always take you to slidescreen, and menu will take you to apps, just like it is, but you still get live wallpapers, widgets, etc.
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has anyone suggested to just have the menu button launch the android homescreen, seeing as how the slidescreen launcher is redundant? the only issue is where to put the slidescreen settings, but i think the devs are clever enough to figure that out...maybe it adds a line to the phone settings (is that possible?)

this way, home will always take you to slidescreen, and menu will take you to apps, just like it is, but you still get live wallpapers, widgets, etc.
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ah...sorry, i thought the post comment button wasn't working! no way to delete posts or replies?
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Interesting idea. Make it its' own topic and see how many people like it. I'd vote for it.
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Since the devs are not actively looking at replacing the lockscreen, using SS as a widget on a different lockscreen would be an ideal alternative.

This is a great looking and functional piece of software, but without a way to get it on the lockscreen, it will always be a no-go for me..