An option to choose which artist photo will display on our profile

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As most people should know, the image voting system is awful on this site. Since we don't know how long the issue of people creating fake accounts to up-vote photos will last, there should be an option for changing which artist photo displays on our profile. 
Like, when a user goes to an artist page and to the photo gallery, in the voting section, there can be a button like: "Pin this on my profile" and that way whenever they appear under top artists, that is the photo you see on your page. Doing this could actually stop people from making fake profiles now that I think about it... If everyone can finally be happy about what artist photo they see, no sense in crazily up-voting photos with multiple accounts.

Secondly, there should be a formula to how votes count, like votes from 5 years ago shouldn't still be as strong as recent votes, the same way popular search results work. For artists who aren't mainstream, the photo gallery is stuck in this rut where new fans are constantly up-voting all the old photos and newly added photos are never seen.
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Official Response
Sorry, I realised there was no 'official' response to this.  To summarise my comments here and elsewhere in this thread, this feature has always been heavily requested by users and is very much under consideration by the product team for the future (i.e. when development resources are less strained than they are currently).  However, given that it's a profile customisation feature, it's quite likely that this feature would be offered as a subscriber perk, so please don't be surprised if that's what happens (more information about that here).
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That;s wonderful news! Thanks for letting me know. :)
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An idea for some problematic album pages is deleting wrong covers, leaving only the right option and closing the upload section. That would be nice, people would stop changing it constantly.
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This is an absolute necessity. 

"for the future" isn't good enough.

people upload porn and disturbing images that appear on our profiles. they control pages. and you guys don't always fix it, in fact, you never do anything about it at all aside from maybe removing an offensive image or two occasionally. this is not OK. we don't want this trash appearing on our profiles. this needs a fix ASAP.
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There's an official response two posts above you.
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I was clearly responding to that, I even quote them...
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If you'd clicked on "comment" under Jon's (rather than the general "write a reply" box), your response would have been directly associated to his to clear up any confusion, just for future reference.

That said, I'm not sure what point kloshar was trying to make since this thread is still open for discussion.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled fake accounts controlling pages.

Can you PLEASE implement an option ASAP so that we can pick the artist image on our profiles???? so many pages are controlled by fake accounts who keep voting down any new images. for example:

https://www.last.fm/music/Nine+Inch+Nails/+images/20d9729683904ee499f6079f0de188d3

https://www.last.fm/music/Goldfrapp/+images/6f6ebf2c251c4d48877ae1a34eb2a0e7


those pages are attacked DAILY by the same trolls with multiple accounts who make sure that only older black & white photos are voted up. they have controlled these pages for YEARS. why are you not doing anything about it??? give us the option to choose what appears on our profiles.
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I've seen these complaints so many times about the NIN photos - I don't really listen to the band but try and upvote the new photos when I remember :)
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Yeah I'm really hoping we get this option added. D:

The default photo for Glittertind has been a nice current photo for a good few months now, and then today I sign in, and all the band photos have been downvoted by like ten/fifteen (I'm assuming fake, since the newer photos only ever had one or two downvotes until today?) accounts, and have been replaced with old photos that don't really represent the band any more. Which is kinda annoying but what can you do? Most of the artists I listen to don't have massive followings so it doesn't take much for the images to be changed and then I can't get them back because I used my one vote. :/
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Any updates?
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Next year we're hoping to focus on new features for subscribers, and this particular feature has been mentioned several times in meetings as a possible candidate (as discussed before).  No definite promises yet, but please stay tuned for future updates.
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Ah, all right.
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Any update since the last mention 10 months ago? This is my No 1 request.
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So, as of almost 1 year since the devs replied, is this feature in the works, planned or just thrown out of the window?

I’m pretty sure 90%+ of the Last Community Want this feature. Here is MY proposal: We can keep the voting system on the artists’ page so that EVERYONE will get a say in the main page picture BUT, on the users’ profile, we dictate what picture shows up on that specific users’ profile. It’s a win-win for both parties.

I think we, everyone who is following this loop need to be more active here. Let them know we want it. Even if it’s just a subscriber feature, I’ll GLADLY pay more than what I do now for this feature.

And we thank you developers for listening and hopefully y’all will jump on the train with the 90% of us!! Keep up the good work!
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Just here to add another update to keep this thread active. 

We hope you can bring us an update in the near future, developers! Thanks. 
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Are there any updates? I hope the Administration will implement this soon. People upload pornography and disturbing images that appear on our profiles. They control pages. The report button for images is not a good solution for our issues. They even control comments by using multiple accounts to gain hundreds of votes for their spam and comments filled with odd symbols. The report button for comments is not a solution either.

As J90 mentioned this a year ago, you don’t always fix it, unless somebody doesn’t report it to your team. You remove the inappropriate images and a comment or two occasionally. This is not OK. We don’t want this trash appearing on our profiles and artist’s pages. This needs a fix as quickly as possible. Today I reported twelve alternative accounts, out of that ten of them are hijacked by a group of trolls. This is getting out of control.
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I would subscribe for this feature!
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So far no updates, still? Just updating the thread so it will stay relevant. 
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The last.fm developers do not seem interested in features people request or want (for the most part). They appear to be releasing features no one is asking for (again, for the most part). It's very odd how they got rid of so many features over the years and haven't brought back hardly any of them.

I've given up on them bring back custom profiles / about me, groups, etc, and features we've been requesting for years and years.
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Any updates on this??? I stopped using lastfm a year ago because of this photo issue. I want to come back but I won't until there's a decent solution. I'd happily pay for a subscription to get this feature.
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Ok, we need an update on this. Like now, please! I'm tired of some parts of my library looking bland and ugly because of the Black N White photos. And some of them have half-naked pictures of the artist. I'm currently a Lastfm pro user and if it means bringing it up 5$ a month, then so be it. I'm tired of my library being contaminated with that stuff. PLEASE DO THIS!!
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This is a feature literally everyone wants, and one I would subscribe for. 

So like many others have stated before in this thread: any updates?
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Don't count on it. Come back in another two years. But hey, at least we got the bookmarks feature.....yay.
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Made a getsatisfaction account solely for the purpose of giving this idea a vote and follow. I really hope his happens, and if it does it absolutely should be a perk for subscribers only, it’s a sure fire way to kill off spam accounts trying to get their fav images displaying, or just trolling random images. This would be great for both Artist images as well as album images as some people prefer the art covers from other issues of albums and when the “wrong one” gets upvoted people get frustrated. 
I love the idea of “Pinning to your account”

On many occasions i’ve seen a particular account that I’m aware of had uploaded the same image that was already uploaded weeks in advance from someone else wherever it be an artist or album image with the same picture quality mind you, only for their picture to have all the votes and result in their image being the main display, with the dislikes on the first uploaded image mirroring their upvotes without fail every time this person has done this. The only thing this person is accomplishing is making it obvious what they’re doing. It’s getting old and annoying.

Please make this happen. It would be a huge boost for the Subscriber community (Sorry to play Devils Advocate non-subscribers) but it really does make the most sense to be a Subscriber feature, and if implemented maybe give the non-subscribers a week or 2 week trial of the feature 
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"it’s a sure fire way to kill off spam accounts trying to get their fav images displaying,"

Why would that be? Chosen artist pic would only be visible to said account making the change so why would spam accounts even care? They wouldn't even know. I guess it would be a boost for extra subscribers but I don't see you making any valid argument why non subsrcibers should be left out.
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@Fly Beep: If pins would also count as votes for the default artist picture (which would make sense, because pinning a picture to your own profile page is a strong indicator for what picture people like to see), spammers would be interested as they could do it for free (which is just like the current situation with votes). Limiting votes or pins to subscriber accounts would limit the spam/trolling to those who are willing to pay money for sock puppets.
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I'm not sure I'm fully following this. Are you saying to limit these "pinning votes" only to users who are subscribers while non subscribers can still vote regularly? Or are you saying to leave all voting to subscribers only using their "pin votes"?
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If you want to reduce spam votes, it would make sense to restrict all voting power to subscriber accounts. Pinning could still be free for all, you just have to decouple it from the voting system for the non-subscribers.

On the other hand, if only people who can afford a subscriber account are allowed to vote, the votes are not necessarily representing the taste of all users. This would create a statistical bias quite similar to spam votes, although maybe not as substantial.
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I'm not for this, it would anger 90+% of the entire user base. People asking for solutions and have their voting rights removed and asked to pay. Not a great look at all. The idea of this thread is perfect, just an option to have your own choice seen on your own profile irrespective of what others have voted. This could be a subscriber perk, I'm not for or against that. The option would do nothing against trolls it just circumvents the problem which is fine. Subscribers shouldn't have total control. I remember a similar idea was being proposed for wiki edits which was bad idea too since most editors have good intentions and most editors aren't subscribers.
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I think pinned images adding to the vote count is just adding needless complexity, even though I wouldn't complain if it was introduced - I just don't think it's worthwhile.

Arguably the easiest, but most controversial, solution would be to make voting a subscriber perk. It would immediately invalidate the power of spam accounts, unless some idiot is happy to pay a subscription fee for all of their sockpuppet accounts just to get their choice of image up top.

I'm not for this, it would anger 90+% of the entire user base. People asking for solutions and have their voting rights removed and asked to pay. Not a great look at all.
I agree it would anger some people but the counterpoint to this is that Last FM, at the end of the day, is a business. They could have made it an entirely subscription-based platform; anything you get for free on here is a bonus. It's marginally histrionic to say "voting rights" - users aren't entitled to anything on Last FM. Furthermore, the monthly subscription fee is the cost of a takeaway coffee; hardly an obscene amount. Sticking with the business perspective, it makes good business sense that the more desirable features are subscription only - e.g. the Scrobble Edit feature is the best thing (IMO) about the "new" Last FM and I think it's quite right that it's a subscriber perk.


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The option would do nothing against trolls it just circumvents the problem which is fine.
At least it reduces the incentive for trolling because users are not forced to see the pictures others have chosen. I agree. 
I remember a similar idea was being proposed for wiki edits which was bad idea too since most editors have good intentions and most editors aren't subscribers.
I think editing of Wiki pages is a different problem. We don't have the actual spam numbers, but I would expect that 1,000 votes of real people who care about the picture quality result in a better picture than 10,000 votes which include 20 % fakes for example. 
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Subscriber only voting is still a big fat middle finger to nearly all users. Sure, it handles trolls but at what cost. The cost isn't worth the price and your numbers guessing seem a grave exaggeration. Don't make up numbers to try to argue a point. I can do that too like this:
I don't think it's worth angering 99% of users for the action of just less than 1000 trolls active on only 200 artist profiles.
That's all I have to say about this. Leave it as an option, don't screw over non subscribers.
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Don't make up numbers to try to argue a point. 
The numbers were not meant to be taken literal. It was an example which demonstrates that a higher number of participants does not improve the end result if the data quality sinks.