Catalogue work - timeline (planning)

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Hi last.fm,

Have been following the changes on the new website and was just wondering if it is possible to give a timeline to the catalogue work that is going to be done, like when can we expect what changes...

I think most of us don't mind the wait, but are getting restless because of the lack of communication. So I hope you can shed some light on the upcoming projects regarding the catalogue.

Thanks,
Onno
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Yes exactly, that thing that hasn't been updated since June. How's that beta progressing? What is being worked on right now regarding the catalogue, and when will the catalogue work be considered done/out of beta?

All that's happening in there right now is people posting things that need to be corrected manually.
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I was actually referring to the database work for the catalogue, not the radio. But any insight in planning is the best for both users and last.fm as far as I am concerned. 

and https://getsatisfaction.com/lastfm/topics/music-catalogue-beta-for-subscribers-your-feedback was a good place when the thread started, but now people just post errors there. still no idea what is being done right now
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...and then no more answers, of course.
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Please bring back our tag libraries, shit, I'd even become a subscriber again
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"when will the catalogue work be considered done/out of beta"

It's already out of beta.  It moved out of beta when it transitioned from an optional setting for subscribers to being fully integrated into the site. 
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Does the catalogue still take priority over other development, or is it at a stage now where more time can be spent working on other features?
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What about all the failed imports reported? Are they being taken care of?
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You should be able to answer your own question since you seem to be doing most of it.
No, I'm talking about the import from (for instance) MusicBrainz to Last.fm. That is the job of the new catalogue software that Last.fm developed. The problem is that it seem to miss some releases (often on compilations).

The real question is what kind of access do we have to all this music?
The music is not on Last.fm to you can listen to it using YouTube or Spotify (on Last.fm) or about anything else (using various other media players, software et.c).
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I have a question that I hope you can and will answer, Jon: is the ability to remove "unknown date" scrobbles tied to the catalogue's completion? If not, is it likely to return any time soon?

IMO, this is a highly useful and basic feature (along with the associated power actions of "remove track", "remove artist", "remove album") that would help clean up global scrobbles (and by extension the catalogue and listening data), but I feel like it's something that's being ignored or overlooked.
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if you go here (below) you'll see it looks like you are doing most of the work
I don't understand how you can get that impression. I do write bug reports there, but I do not do any work on the importer. That is for the Last.fm staff to handle.
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@ Jon: I didn't expected, that we got this answer, regardless the missing timeline (what I've expected). So I have to admit, my forecast went wrong. I appreciate your reply Jon.
Do you think, you can go one step further and talk about the optional project your dev team would focus at next in case of free resources? Maybe we can discuss some favourites which are suggested by users in this forums.
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yeah, like 6 last visitors on my profile, bbc code for the about me section, statcounter, flag counter, links and so on.
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as much as I appreciate everyone commenting, it would be really great if someone from last.fm also did ;-)
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One can dream, onnovdw, one can dream...
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The plus side of everyone replying is it at least makes the thread more popular and therefore (supposedly) more likely to be officially addressed...
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Moin Onno!
As far as I can remember, there are two things the staff don't like to do: a) To publish a working schedule with a ranking and b) any kind of timeline. The best answer you can get from your preferred official side is: "We can give you no timeline" because the nature of development processes ... .
btw: Tomorrow it will have been 4 weeks since the last update. Anyone one holiday or ill? (get well in last case)
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The plus side of everyone replying is it at least makes the thread more popular and therefore (supposedly) more likely to be officially addressed...
It may also be an idea to click "Me too" in the upper right.
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Oh, like clicking "Me Too" ever gave the users any sense of commitement and had a direct impact on the communication with the staff.

I'm devastated by seeing how a great community of concerned and devoted beautiful people start bickering at each other because staff can't/won't anwer any legitimate questions asked here.
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No updates this week, so I am guessing the next update will be in the first week of october and I am wondering what small little things they did during those four weeks.
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"Me too"
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"Hey Ho! We're just released sprint 195. You can find the following:

Features
Now show up to 10 results on search page
Personalized content for page footer

Bugfixes
Removed artist images in page header
Shouts work more often
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That are good news pizza staff. Can we also change received stars into more results? Is it also possible to implement a own youtube channel into the new personalited footer? And last but not least, will bbc work now, or only [ extra cheese ], [ salami + ] and [ spicy ]?
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Official Response
The development team have been steadily working through the various bugs, feedback, and issues reported in the thread linked above, and elsewhere, in an effort to improve catalogue generation and clustering.   Some of the issues are proving to be pretty tough nuts to crack, which is why there's been very little to show in terms of user facing site updates over the summer, besides threaded shouts.  In the long term, our intentions are still the same: we want to reintroduce scrobble corrections, and support disambiguation, aliases, collaborative works, and so on.  That's all in cards still, but the timeline won't be defined until the foundational work is finished, and it's taking longer than estimated.  

>>>Does the catalogue still take priority over other development, or is it at a stage now where more time can be spent working on other features?

There's still a lot of work ahead of us on this front, but it's not really feasible for us to focus on the catalogue to the exclusion of everything else. We're well aware that people are getting restless, and as a business we also have our own obligations and targets to meet.  We'll still be working on the catalogue, but we want to free up resources for development elsewhere on the site too.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled You will have more updates?.

You will have more updates?





where the new updates of the site? acreito that the latter is the 1st of September, and is already more than a month that we have no news .... the beta site was launched in August last year, and according to information from you, in the second half of this year site would already praticamento ready ... but is still so incomplete in every way, is far from what has been before. Do you have any estimate of when there will be new updates? and what things will change? the site looks like an abandoned castle, I see ghosts, nowadays a track very successfully reaches max 200 000 listeners away from 900,000 a few years ago: / A very important update would be the number of executions each track a artist had lasted the week appear on the homepage of the artist as before, it was one of my favorite things on this site, you guys said it would return to the second half of this year and still not working


*sorry for my broken english 
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how is this thread marked as 'answered'...
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still no answer...
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Because I answered it on September 29th 2016. >_>

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