New Last.fm Scrobbler app for iOS!

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Hey everyone, we're happy to announce that the new Last.fm Scrobbler app for iOS has finally been released!  You can download it from the iTunes store here.

Here's a quick overview of the main features:
  • Batch scrobbling - scan & submit scrobbles automatically or manually
  • Love / unlove your favourite tracks
  • Check out Your Top Artists, Top Albums and Top Tracks over different time periods
  • Watch music videos in-app
  • View tags, artist information, top tracks and similar artists
(Note: only tracks stored locally in the Apple Music app can be scrobbled. Tracks which are streamed through Apple Music do not scrobble at this time.)

Thanks for your patience - I know it's been a long time since the last update, please give it a try and let us know what you think in the comments below.

Cheers,
Last.fm


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Thank you!
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My first feedback after testing on iOs 10.3.1:
  • Disabling "Confirm before submitting" doesn't seems to work. Even when I close and restart the app, automatic scrobbling or live effect on "recent tracks" doesn't work. In every case I have to submit the played tracks. As a side effect I have double entries in case of using an other scrobbler and the new one.
  • Maybe It's an artifact of my countrified internect connection, but the videos aren't playable for me.
  • I miss the total counter of tracks, artists etc.
  • The timestamp seems to be different to other scrobblers.
Features which are desireable:
  1. Change language including wikis etc.
  2. An internal player for local files.
  3. More than 50 artist/album/track entries in the app.
  4. Friends are currently listen to.
  5. Personal tags.
After all, my 1st impression is similar to Elliot: The background scrobbling is a real Plus like the 4 lists too. Nevertheless there's a "little" work to do, before reaching the functionality of the old scrobbler. And I'm glad, that the old one still exist. Like ever, imo CBS should invest more money to your dev team. The new scrobbler has the potential for a complete Last.FM/Scrobbler app, which contains the full functionality of the account/site, scrobbling and player. That's why I like to suggest, to consider this more courageous step. Of course after the necessary improvements.
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I miss the total counter of tracks, artists etc.

Same. It would be great if this updated, too. With the old app, only the total overall scrobbles updates (IIRC). The artist/album/track stats are lifted from your profile the first time you play that artist/album/track through the app but they never update.

I realise this could cause a lot of demand on the site with requests from app users, but even a manual refresh button would be good and would greatly reduce the access requests.

The timestamp seems to be different to other scrobblers.
I've noticed this and I think this is down to the difference between how Last FM and iTunes record plays; Last FM records your play as the moment you start listening to the track whereas iTunes sets the play as when you finish listening.
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I've noticed, songs which are not played until their end, wont be scrobbled with the new scrobbler.
That means, the old rule "scrobbling after 50%" doesn't work anymore. Instead of this, you only have to play the last second of a song to scrobble it. If you like to skip to a new song after listening 50% or more of a track, you have to skip to the last second of the track.
As a side effect, this is an open barn door for scrobble faker.
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Two years have passed as it seems, and nothing has changed about this issue:
we need a way to scrobble past 2min or 50% just like the macOS app does. We need a scrobble meter on iOS, basically ... please
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Is there going to be an iPad friendly version? What I just downloaded is phone-optimized one...
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Useless unless crobble of streaming music will be added
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That is the job of the music player in my opinion.
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Yeah, Spotify has native scrobbling on their app, which IMO is how other apps should do it if they don't already.
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Yes, but last.fm should approach the Music providers (e.g. Apple Music)  for cooperation to support their last.fm customers.
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Well surprise, surprise!
There's no sign of this app on the store in France. I wonder why that could be.
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It would be nice if you stopped editing my comments.
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Hi Nicholas, does this link work you?   https://itunes.apple.com/fr/app/last-fm-scrobbler/id1188681944?ls=1&mt=8

There's no reason why it shouldn't be available as we released the app globally.   Please let us know if you continue to have problems downloading the app. 
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I'm very grateful to you, Jon. The link worked and the new app has even appeared in the App Store on my phone.I was casting aspersions in the wrong direction.
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I may considering switching over from QuietScrob if the ability to scrobble streamed tracks from Apple Music gets added.
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Could you implement autoscan function please.
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This is already implemented - guessing you just switch off the "Confirm before submitting" option under Settings.
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I have it switched off, but I still need to press Scan button and only then it scans and submits.
Looks like only autosubmit on scan is there, but not periodical autoscan.
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Thanks for the update - I'm excited to try it out.

By the way, does auto-scanning effectively equate to live scrobbling? Does it auto-scan in the background or do you have to access/open the app for it to submit? (I've yet to try it out although I have just installed it)
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Disabled update. I'm not satisfied
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(Note: only tracks stored locally in the Apple Music app can be scrobbled. Tracks which are streamed through Apple Music do not scrobble at this time.)
Not only that, the track still has to be part of the personal library. So there is no real advantage in the official app over alternative apps. I understand that the problem may exist in restrictions of Apple Music. But a company like last.fm or CBS should be able to cooperate with Apple to make scrobbling as comfortable as with Spotify.
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So, I've had a play with the app and I have to say I'm rather disappointed.

I've not had any problems with it - error wise - but it seems to be a step backward when compared with the old app. I'm just grateful you haven't made this as an overwriting update so we still have the old app.

The positives: It looks nice and a bit more polished and the live in-app feed of our scrobbles is a nice touch - however you only see this if you're scrobbling from another device while looking at the iOS app, otherwise it's a static list.

The negatives/gripes: Why doesn't it do live scrobbling in the background? The old app would and it's a feature I very much like and want. This new version requires you to manually open it every time you want to submit some scrobbles - as such, listing "scan & submit scrobbles automatically or manually" in the app's features is a little misleading. I think most people - or at least, it's how I read it - would assume that means scrobbling can happen automatically without you having to hit a button.

To make matters even more disheartening, the scan takes quite a (comparative) while to do. I probably have a decent amount of songs on my phone so maybe it's partly that, but I still would have expected the scan/submit to take a couple of seconds (especially since when I first tried the app, I did this after listening to only one track) but it seems to take maybe 10+ seconds.

For the moment at least, I'll be sticking with the old app. Even though the old app could do with being more stable, more reliable and efficient at submitting scrobbles (it would be great if it submitted the scrobble as soon as the song finished rather than waiting a vague amount of time before submitting), not to mention working in the background should you wish to listen through the Apple music app, but I definitely still prefer its functionality over this new app.
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All sound and good points, Elliott — I agree. For the time being (about two weeks in), I'm keeping the "old app" on my phone as backup, though I haven't resorted to it yet and iPhones no longer like it.
I've twice had the experience of listening to several albums in a day and scanning the lot when I'm done to see that one of those records is passed over from start to finish as if it never played. I've no idea why.
This isn't a personal problem because when I connect the phone to my Mac the Last.fm desktop scrobber seeks out those missing tracks. But it is a serious bug for iOS scrobbling, even if few people are affected.
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That person has Kero Kero Bonito, Guns N' Roses, A Tribe Called Quest and Angel Olsen on their top artists, that's a pretty peculiar musical taste.
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every scrobble i have to submit? there is no other way to do automatically?
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The app can do it in bulk, but it won't automatically scrobble - you have to "scan" for plays which it will then scrobble.
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It's done this way because apple are more restrictive about what apps can and can't do in the background, than android.  The old app had to do some pretty crazy workaround (along the lines of indefinitely looping a silent track on your phone) to prevent iOS from killing the background scrobbling service.  Like with itunes scrobbling, it's a hack and any update could potentially break it -- manual submissions is a tradeoff between convenience and reliability.
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Thanks, Jon, really appreciate the explanation - that's a real shame, though. Bloody Apple! *shakes fist*

By the way, as an extra bit of feedback (which you may be aware of), this new scrobbler is not very user-friendly for people such as myself who have iTunes sync plays across devices (a useful back-up for making sure scrobble stats are accurate). When you scan with the app, it finds all the plays you may have made on other devices since you last played something on the phone, as well as the actual phone scrobbles that you are after.

For the moment, it's a useful secondary app to use when the scrobbling on the old app has a hiccup - but as I say, I do prefer the old app (sorry!).
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>>>By the way, as an extra bit of feedback... 

Thanks, I've passed this on.   

Edit: I've been told it's a limitation we can't work around -- for any given track, we can only access the playcount and the timestamp of the last play.  We internally  keep track of what's been submitted after each scan, but if you sync with itunes later then the playcount for that track may increase, and we'll treat those as new scrobbles.  This is why we've defaulted to editing scrobbles on, so you can discard unwanted desktop scrobbles.  

Basically if you use anything that syncs plays across devices, we recommend that you scan and submit your scrobbles shortly after listening on mobile, before syncing your plays with itunes, and then rescan and discard any extra desktop scrobbles that show up.  

>>>I do prefer the old app (sorry!).
Fair enough, that's why we launched this one as a new app.
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The first time I used the new app, everything went fine. The second time, just now, not so fine. The app correctly found 18 tracks. When I clicked on submit, it said 29 tracks were submitted. When I looked at my profile, I saw that some of the tracks were submitted two to four times. I cannot delete the extra submissions. I guess I will not be using the app if it is not reliable.
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Can't you delete submissions on Last.fm web?I had a similar problem when I was trying different scrobbling apps and accidentally kept more than one open at a time, but it took a few moments to get rid of the extras on my Last.fm timeline.
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For some reason, I am unable to delete tracks on the website from either my laptop or my tablet.
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@DoctorT

The most recent site update changed the way we delete tracks. You now need to click the three little dots on tracks to open a drop-down menu. Try that.

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@James Joul

Thanx, that the trick and makes it harder to accidentally delete tracks, something I have done a couple of times. I somehoe missed that update announcement.
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DoctorT sorry to hear this - what's your username and roughly when did this happen?
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User name is DoctorT. Just happened again this morning. The app correctly identified 18 tracks but scrobbled 59. The first time was shortly before my first post. I have deleted all the duplicate scrobbles.
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Do you sync your playcounts across other devices? (see Elliot's post above) The app can only look at differences in your playcounts between scans, so if you sync with itunes before scanning it might be picking up desktop scrobbles as well as mobile.  In that case, what I recommend is that you submit your mobile scrobbles first, then sync, then rescan and discard any desktop scrobbles that show up.

Also, in the app settings, "Confirm before submitting" should be on by default -- I recommend leaving that on if you're seeing duplicates.  Then after scanning you should see the options to 1. Submit all scrobbles, 2. Discard all of them, or 3. Edit the list and choose which scrobbles are submitted to your profile.  You can see these options in the screenshot above.   

What you see on the scrobble/scan screen is what should be submitted to your profile; so if this happens again, it would be helpful if you can take a screenshot of what you see on the app after scanning, vs what gets scrobbled to your profile, so we can investigate further. 
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What I have been doing is syncing my iPad at home which loads 18 to 20 tracks on my iPad. I listen to them at work, then scan and hit submit. What is getting submitted are multiple scrobbles of the tracks on my iPad. So this morning, I had only 18 tracks on my iPad. After listening to all of them, the LastFm app correctly identified 18 tracks. When I clicked submit, the app told me that 59 tracks were submitted, meaning that each of those 18 tracks were submitted 2 to five times. Also, the duplicate scrobbles were not all grouped together like AAAABBBBCCCCDDDD, but more like AABBCBABCDCDECDCEDEFFD. i would then rescan my iPad at home to get fresh tracks loaded. To tell the truth, I have found the Windows LastFm app inconsistent at picking up my mobile plays and I have been using the Universal Scrobbler.
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Oh, and I have left the setting at "Confirm before submitting". I do not get any screen asking for confirmation when I hit Submit, I just get the number of tracks submitted. I am using an older iPad Mini running iOS 9.3.5.
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Oops, In my earlier post where I said " i would then rescan my iPad at home" I meant resync. I see I can only edit my most recent post, which is a shame.
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Hey Jon, can you please confirm if the multiple scrobbles thing is a bug or if it is indeed just a conflict between desktop & mobile plays?
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I can confirm Jon's comment is incorrect.  I have songs with higher play-counts on Last.FM than they have in iTunes
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What a mess!
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What a let down. I'll stick with QuietScrob.
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Well, compared with the old app, I am totally disappointed - here are reasons:
1) Scrobbling now needs an action. I just want to set the scrobbling up once and let it happen automatically from then on.
2) The great features as Smart Playlists are gone completely - it was best part of my experience with the old app. It worked really well, playlists really were smart.
3) There is no app for the iPad. U use it in landscape mode, with the keyboard attached, so the Portrait oriented iPhone app is completely useless to me

Please, are going to re-introduce Smart Playlists?
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Sorry to hear this.  I'm afraid the smart playlist service was discontinued several years ago - if we were to bring it back, we'd need to effectively rebuild it from scratch and that's not really feasible right now.  Never say never, but for now, our focus with this app is on scrobbling, as it was with the android app.
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Well, to be more accurate, smart playlist service firstly become unreliable and buggy to some users, as such was discussed here... and then it quietly disappeared. When I (and others) were reporting it did not work, we have not ever been told "service discontinued"... It might have spared couple of hours of my time spent trying to make it work again.
Personally, I think it is huge mistake to discontinue such a service - what is all the scrobbling for if there do not exist functions, using such a huge database?
To me, smart playlists was exaktly the feature, which gave sense to all the scrobbling. And it was neat.
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Maybe you should check out the SmartPlaylist app for iOS:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/smartplaylist/id326071802?mt=8
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I like it. I don’t need the app for anything other than scrobbling, and it does it exactly the way i like it: Manually. I don’t want yet another process in the background that keeps monitoring my music as i’m listening (or not), so the ‘scan and submit’ method works great for me. (Especially since the desktop iPhone scrobbler, that i have been using up ’til now, is pretty broken at the moment.)
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oh. I thought we were waiting for a media player alternative. really, really disappointed. There are third party media players which live-scrobble (e.g. SmartPlayer, Loud) which have clearly surpassed this app.
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Good hint Pizzicatoiv. First I thought, LOUD isn't a background scrobbler. But you're right: Once you've started the app, Loud is scrobbling the tracks you're playing with the iOs music player without bringing it to the front. So the apple rules aren't possibly not as restrictive as Jon was explaning. But I'm not a developer ...
In any case an interesting question for the new scrobbler, how Loud was able to do this step.
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I too was hoping for a new Last.fm media player. SmartPlayer — and other incarnations by the same developer — became badly buggy but the inventor seemed keener to move on to related products rather than actually fixing the apps.
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Love the app, use multiple times a day and i similar to QuietScrob. PLEASE PLEASE UPDATE THE DESKTOP VERSION, it has been years now, still has the radio part on it. I'm a loyal Lastfmer!
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled iOS app not available in French app store.

Anything that can be done about that?
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Since I was updating my iPhone iOs to 10.3.1, my old live scrobbling Last.FM Scrobbler doesn't work correct anymore. E.g. after switching back to the scrobbler app, or after switching my iPhone off/on, I can't choose any tracks off the current album page. Instead of this, the scrobbler plays different tracks of other artists, when I'm tapping a track I want to hear. Now I have to select a different track from a different album, before I'm able to turn back to the album I want to listen to. This happens even when I shout down every other scrobbling and media app. Have a look on 2 screenshots:

2nd try:
The scrobbler was working without problems the last years. The only changes I've done before this issue, were updating the iOs from 8.3 to 10.3.1 (only because of the new scrobbler!) and installing the new scrobbler app. Any solutions?
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Wow! 5 days ago since I asked for support. What's up? It would be nice to get some help in this issue.
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To exclude problems of my iPhone, I've deleted my whole music library and have installed it again. As a 2nd step I want to delete and reinstall the old scrobbler app, but I can't find it in the apple app store. Because of that my question
Where do I find the old LFM scrobbler (player) in the app store to reinstall the app?
Still waiting for some help.
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Where do I find the old LFM scrobbler (player) in the app store to reinstall the app?
Is it not under your Purchased->Not On This iPhone section?
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Good idea Elliot. But will it work with apps which aren't available in the appstore too?
I don't want to risk the lost of the old and - old-fashioned or not - currently better LFM player + scrobbler.
Jon's answer to your question above ("... that's why we launched this one as a new app.") includes in some way the assumption, user have the choice between the old and the new scrobbler. As far as I understand, that means also, I should find the app of the LFM player + scrobbler in the app store. But I don't. Tomorrow I will talk to the apple support, before I try to reinstall the app without success.
Btw. the described negative effect doesn't happen in the directory =>artists => all tracks.
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After a long chat with the Apple support about Last.FM and the scrobbler , I've been told, the old scrobbler doesn't exist anymore on the app store and that's why I can't reload or reinstall the app under => App Store => Updates => Purchased => Not on this iPhone.
So my problem still exists.
What is the suggestion by the Last.FM Team?
Distinguished silence can't be the best answer, right?
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...the old scrobbler doesn't exist anymore on the app store and that's why I can't reload or reinstall the app...
This is a worrying development. If this is true, is it possible, Last FM team, for you to re-add it to the store, please?
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If you're syncing your iPhone with iTunes, then there's a chance the old app is still in the trashcan folder (on either Windows or Mac). If it is, simply uninstall the app from your iDevice and also remove the current app from your iTunes. Then import the old app from your trashcan back into iTunes. When you sync next, select the old app from within iTunes.
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Good idea too, rotane. Thank's. I've already tried this. Unfortunately without success. Maybe it's because the backup of this app was already damaged before the backup (and after the iOs update). And no, I haven't an older backup.
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Hi  Andreas,

Sorry I missed this before.

We've checked in the office and can reproduce the problem.  We don't think it has anything to do with the new app, as they have completely different ids, so as far as your phone is concerned there's no interaction between the two apps. We haven't updated the old app in years, so the only thing we think it can possibly be is a change on Apple's side (the app uses their API for music playback).  I'm not sure if it's a temporary glitch, or if they've updated their playback API in such a way as to cause this, but it seems like a mismatch with track ids.
Jon's answer to your question above ("... that's why we launched this one as a new app.") includes in some way the assumption, user have the choice between the old and the new scrobbler. As far as I understand, that means also, I should find the app of the LFM player + scrobbler in the app store. 
I'm sorry, that's not the case; I should have been more clear about this in my post  -- If you still have the old scrobbler app on your phone you can continue using it, yes.  As the new scrobbler app works differently to the old one (batch scrobbler instead of realtime), we thought it would be better to give people the option to download the new one, rather than forcibly update everyone.  However, that doesn't change the fact that the old app has been discontinued (it hasn't been updated in over 3 years, and it shows), and is no longer available to download from the itunes store.  I'm very sorry if you thought otherwise -- I'll ask if it can be made available as an unlisted app.
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Thank you Jon! After all the news are sad to hear. The last 2 years I haven't updated my iOs because of the supposed problems with the scrobbler. But now the iOs update was necessary because of the new Scrobbler app, which is in it's current version 'a little bit' below my expectations. And to downgrade iOs isn't possible.
Far below my daydreams of what a ultimative Last.Fm App could be, I guess the next Scrobbler app update should include a player and a realtime option like already mentioned.
To make the old app available - unlisted or listed - as a temporary solution is a good idea anyway. 'Hope, you can realize it.
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OK, now i've had a rather big issue: The last time i used the new app to scrobble was when i left my previous comment, 4 days ago. I haven't used is since. Because i didn't listen to any music on my iPhone. Today i listened to a handful of tracks and decided to scrobble them soon after. The app told me it had found 350 new scrobbles – but those were all songs i've listened on my main PC, using iTunes, over those last 4 days; and all were already scrobbled and put on last.fm. (I had listened to a few more than 350, but i guess these 350 were all songs i had also on my iPhone.)

So now i'm going to manually scrobble before listening to music on my iPhone, discard any scrobbles it finds, then listen, then manually check again to submit. This seems like a cumbersome workaround indeed, but i feel like i need to do this now, at least until this bug is fixed.

If it helps, i'm on Windows 7 (64bit), using iTunes 12.6 (64bit), Scrobbler 2.1.37. I'm located in Austria, on Central European Summer Time. (I bring this up, because it may have something to do with the timezone bug?)
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It's not a bug - it sounds like you (like me) have your playcounts synchronised across devices. Unfortunately, this means the app doesn't really work well for us.
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rotane

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I guess you're right, Elliot. To back this up further, here's what i just noticed: The scrobbler works fine, until i sync my iPhone with iTunes. The next time i use the new app, i get all of the PC-scrobbles promted on my iPhone a second time (only of those tracks that i have put on my iPhone, of course).
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Frankenrin

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Oh, so that's the problem. Allright, thanks Last.fm. Guess I'll have to stop scrobbling from my phone AGAIN. Sigh.
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rotane

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Frankenrin, a working solution is this: after you sync your iPhone with iTunes, use the new iOS scrobbler app and discard all the scrobbles it finds. After that, it should work fine (at least until the next sync). It's silly, i know, but as a workaround it seems to do the trick.
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Thanks, rotane. Yeah, that might work. It's quite a hassle though - I hope there's an update soon that fixes this. Fingers crossed!
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I'm afraid there's no way to fix this behaviour with an update, due to the way Apple expose playcounts on iOS (see my replies to Elliot last week). This is why there's a discard option by design, so you can quickly separate your pc scrobbles from mobile if you sync devices.  We realise it's cumbersome to have to discard your pc scrobbles after syncing, but unfortunately Apple doesn't expose the necessary endpoints required to make scrobbling both frictionless and reliable on their platforms -- so we have to make a compromise between convenience and accuracy.
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rotane

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At least now i know what's going on – and how i need to work with it. Discovering it was really not fun, though, so you should've communicated this better. Still, thanks for your reply, Jon!
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I see. This means dismissing dozens, if not hundreds, of tracks manually with each scan though, and I'm afraid that's a no go for me.
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Elliot Robinson

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You can dismiss them all in one go, Frankerin, you don't have to arduously dismiss each of them like you were deleting scrobbles on the site.
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rotane

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Unless you forgot to dismiss them right after your sync and want to scrobble the last few tracks that you actually listened to on your iPhone.

So, a "select all" would be a better solution than a "dismiss all" button.
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Elliot Robinson

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True, rotane, that would be a useful feature to include on the next version of the app.
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Frankenrin

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It's totally messing up my scrobbles. I've listened to each track ONCE in the specified time.
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I got the new Last FM Scrobbler earlier the night on my IPad Mini 4 and so far I'm not sure if I like the lay out it looks more like a version for a mobile that a tablet. I think I liked the lay out of the older version a little better on my IPad Mini 4.


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Some songs have massive number of scrobbles but in fact I only listened to them once.
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Elliot Robinson

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I know you technically abandoned the old scrobbler app (even though it was better, IMO), but is there any chance a minor update could be released to make it compatible with iOS 11?

With the latest version of iOS, it throws up an error message and won't even let you open the app.  :-(