Online scrobbling (youtube) does not associate song with album

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HI,
I suspect that online scrobblings (through youtube video) did not associate correctly the corresponding albums to the song.

Take this song that I played+scrobbled a few minutes ago:
http://www.last.fm/music/Hibernal/_/Disconnection

Despite it being correctly enrolled tin the album "The Machine", when I scrobble it online, by playing that embedded video, it scrobbles without any album !
That's why I removed the scrobble done this way, and I had to play it locally, from my computer. Not that this last thing bothers me. But .... I wonder why did it scrobbled without album.

Is it a known issue ?
Is it a bug ?
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Cornel Diaconu

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Cornel Diaconu

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It happened again with this song:
http://www.last.fm/music/Vienna+Circle/_/Envy
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I have noticed it too.
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If something is scrobbled without information of album (for example - by YouTube) it doesn't have to be scrobbled with association to album. First argument: which one? There are many albums consisting one song, and it should be associated randomly - it makes no sense.
Second argument: if we get "main" album of song, we can have many scrobbles associated to "best of" compilations, for example, because many songs has compilation as most popular association. I hate most compilations and as probably many users want to have scrobbles associated with LPs / EPs.
Third and last: if you scrobble from YouTube, you don't scrobble it from anything but network. So empty field here is understandable.

To be honest, I prefer this "no album" option. It gets me informed when I scrobbled by YT on site, not Winamp / Spotify / whatever else.

EDIT: This was from years on Last.fm, so it's interesting you noticed it now. Or maybe did I understand wrong what you mean?
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Well, the problem is that when playing the track an album name is displayed and you probably expect it to be scrobbled with that album name.
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Yup, but it's just information field - note that there is often more than only one album connected to song. And the main is the most popular album, not most correct.
This worked from when I can remember (beginning 2014) and it was not the problem, so I think we should just get used to it, as most Last.fm users did.
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Good point @Tom, about lack of album as a tip about the source of scrobbling.
No, I noticed this long ago, but I just thought to bring this up now, after we were switched to the new (former beta) catalogue, hoping this would somehow be solved.
As @He's dead,Jim pointed out I would expect, yes, that the online scrobble would tag the song with album name displayed on the song as the main album source.

But, again, for now at least, having no album is a pretty good tip about the song being scrobbled online, from youtube player.
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Hi, 

I have checked the two examples above and they seem to display the primary album on last.fm while scrobbling. Is this solved now for everybody? 
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Ah! That is exactly what I wanted to find out, thanks for checking Harold.

I was under the impression, the reason it didn't scrobble the album tittle was the lack of a primary album associated to the track title.

I will get back to you guys on this.
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Hmm .. but, Harold, Pellitero ... by now I thought already that this is the "normal" behaviour when playing a song online, through youtube video, here on last.fm : your scrobble will not be with album name attached, even if the song really has a primary album, as was the case with this song, "Envy".

May I dream that this will change ?

If it's needed some confirmation, these 2 songs included, no, they do not scrobble with album, when playing + scrobbling online, with youtube video.
(I just scrobbled them like this, and they are now in my history without album name).
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Hi,
This is intentional behaviour; because, when you scrobble a YouTube video, you don't play it from an album. The same is true for when you play radio stations here that play YouTube videos, or other playlists, these are not album plays either, so we don't want to scrobble any albums for them. (For what it's worth, the radio player on the old Last.fm website didn't scrobble them either.)

It is true that it would be nice to scrobble the album if you play the actual album playlist, but we have no way to differentiate those plays at the moment.

Hope this helps :)

Cheers,
Laura
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There's a difference between scrobbling these two though:

a) If you scrobble the song Echo from https://www.last.fm/music/Leprous/_/Echo there's no album invoved and therefore I see with good eyes that no album is associated to that particular scrobble.

but

b) If you scrobble from https://www.last.fm/music/Leprous/Coal/Echo it is clear that you want to hear the album version (Coal version) and therefore it is be better to associate that scrobble with the album in which that song is included, Coal.


Spotify just went full retard ATM so (even when it works) it won't scrobble anything, therefore this issue becomes even more relevant.