PLEASE FIX THE ADS ALREADY

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Okay, I've officially have had it with you last.fm. You guys pushed it way too far this time and I just can't take it anymore. I know why you guys need ads. You need them to keep the site running. I get it. I admit that I've been using adblock this entire time. In fact, I DON'T WANT to use adblock! I actually don't mind seeing ads on pages. I want you guys to get the money because I care about last.fm. If it means keeping the site running then by all means keep the ads going...but I HAVE to use adblock.

You guys want to know why I have to use adblock? This is why:



Can someone please explain to me why we need to have this gigantic, space wasting ad on the top of the page like this? It's not even a tiny ad, it's HUGE. It takes up so much space.

I like to leave my profile opened sometimes when I'm listening to music. Don't know why but I like keeping an eye on my profile as my music is scrobbling. Maybe that makes me weird, but I can promise you I can't be the only one that does this. Now, I can't even do that when I have these obnoxious ads taking up half the page. I made a thread about this months ago but of course, like always, I was ignored by staff and it was something that was never looked into.

Why can't we just stick to having ads at the bottom of the page or side? Why have them in this area? It's just a huge distraction and is completely unnecessary.

Now, it's either deal with that or this:


Is this notification always popping up aggravating? Of course it is, but you know what? I literally would rather have this pop up every time then have you guys get money off of ads that take up the whole page. Honestly, I lose both ways, so I'd rather click close every time and actually be able to look at my page then look at a huge ad I don't care about. Like, all you guys have to do is put an ad like this just about anywhere else that doesn't cause clutter for a user's profile. To me, it doesn't seem like it would be that much of an issue.

Why not just get rid of this crap?


I can promise you this is something we don't need, and I would rather this be taken up by ads then links I'm never going to bother clicking on.

Oh, and you may suggest to me, "well just become a subscriber if you don't want ads."

Well, why should I? What is the point? Oh cool, I don't have to see ads, then that is definitely a pro, but that's literally all being a subscriber has to offer. Oh boy, I get early access to new features! Like it'll make a difference if I use something now or wait a few more weeks/months. Besides, what features are there to even use? If you guys want to take so long to add back the old missing features, is there even anything else 'new' to begin with? A little discount on merchandise I wasn't planning on buying anyways? So that's it, that's all I get? Maybe if you guys still offered the radio then that would be more of a draw in, but ever since you guys got rid of that there's really no point in being a subscriber. I know it's only $36 for a whole year, but honestly, I'd rather spend my money on literally anything else, than on a site that: implemented an unfinished beta with tons of missing features, intentionally avoids communicating with its users (especially when we usually just ask simple questions), makes sure every >monthly< update is as tiny as possible, and is just all around lazy and doesn't really care that much about the user base.

I would like to believe you guys do, and maybe you actually do. BUT, I feel if you guys did, things would not be taking as long as it has been since, you know, it's been about 14 months now since the beta has been forced out. Even if things need to take this long, why not talk to us anyways? I can promise you we wouldn't be as mad if you guys bothered to talk to us some more and keep us more updated on progress.

Sorry to go on a big rant, especially since there's a good chance this won't be looked into, but I had to say it anyways because I'm sure there's at least one other person who agrees with me on this.

If you guys want me to disable my adblock, get rid of the huge ads at the top of the page. All you have to do is move them somewhere else, very little coding should be involved with this. If you guys want me to subscribe, offer more useful benefits. If you thought having an annoying message would make me cave in, think again. Until then, I guess I have to click 'close' on that notification from now on.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled About your anti-AdBlock script.

So, you have an annoying pop-up that tells me I am using an Ad Blocker, and I should subscribe or turn it off if I don't want ads. I used to subscribe for many years, but cannot in good conscious give last.fm any more of my money while the site is still in this appalling state (sorry, I have given you 1 1/2 years to fix it, which should have been enough)

So: my only option is to shut off Ad Blocker.  Which I did.

However, when Ad Blocker is off and set to pause on any Last.fm page, the ads come back (naturally), but the stupid pop up telling me I have AdBlocker does not go away. Even with AdBlocker off, I get the same message telling me to turn it off.

The normal way to deal with this would be to ask you to fix it. After all, if I turn off my AdBlocker, I should not keep getting that pop-up, right?

Obviously, asking you guys to fix anything is a waste of time though (I have been waiting 6 years for you to spell The Chocolate Watchband correctly on the artist page, and you still won't do it...)

So: I have a work-around of my own, which I will share with other users here:

If shutting off your AdBlocker does not get rid of the pop up telling you to shut off AdBlocker, then simply leave AdBlocker on.

If you leave AdBlocker on, you will still get the annoying pop-up. However, you will not see any ads. If I shut AdBlocker off, then we get ads AND pop-ups.

The pop-ups are even more annoying than your ads, so I am leaving my AdBlocker on for good (unless you guys fix this). Makes no sense to turn it off if I have to get ads AND pop-ups. Leaving it on only subjects me to pop-ups, no ads.

I suggest everyone just keep their AdBlockers on.  If they fix the pop-up issue (will never happen), you can shut it off for them.

At Last.fm, we have to be creative with our own solutions, since we get no satisfaction with whatever skeleton crew is left "working" here.

Good luck, Last.fm users!
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Demanding that users disable adblock = irresponsible.

Viruses and malware spread through ad networks. It happens constantly, daily at this point.

Any website that demands that users either whitelist their site or disable their adblocker is making a very unreasonable demand. That's tantamount to saying "If you want to use our site, we want you to be LESS SECURE in your browsing".

What next? Are you going to demand that users disable their antivirus as well?

This is ridiculous, people. Find another way to monetize your site. But insisting that users be less secure in order to view it is incredibly stupid, negligent, irresponsible, and childish. The Internet is not a safe place without adblockers. Period.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malvert...
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https://www.ghostery.com/ Might I suggest the Ghostery plugin? This app lets you see what trackers are slowing down any website, and you can select which advertisers should get blocked.
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I second this! The malware and trackers in todays internet makes it negligent not to have protection against both. As a matter of fact, I am currently blocking three trackers just from this thread alone, and it's in a forum. Once I get on the main site, it's not unusual to block 2 or 3 times that.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled plea to stop blocking ads is good, actual advertising is bad.

I actually disabled my ad blocker the moment I saw the message asking me to, but on page reload I was immediately greeted with an auto play audio/video ad. I wouldn't mind such an ad if it were muted by default, but that wasn't the case. It doesn't make a good example for people who actually disable ad blockers - I understand you guys largely make money on subs but this is unacceptable imho, particularly for a music website.
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This action is wrong and against best practices and needs to stop. Let people do what they will. 

also whitelisting lastfm make no difference as the detect code is from a 3rd party (bad) and automatically blocked.

https://snag.gy/0jtpAo.jpg

Please for all that is proper on the web remove this shit.
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is there a way to block this pop-up?
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled This is a serious problem.

Absolute garbage. I just now saw this video ad because I wasn't signed in on my tablet. I thought to myself, "ok well I guess it's not that bad... AT LEAST IT ISN'T AUTOPLAYING". So I proceeded to get on my desktop and log out of my profile to check out this video ad.. lo and behold... IT IS AUTOPLAYING.

THIS IS THE LAST STRAY I AM USING ADBLOCK FROM NOW ON. I have made it a point to not use adblock on this site because of how much I love it (I've been on your side with this issue), but now that I see how little you value your userbase (by forcing an autoplaying video ad to those without a profile) you are no longer getting ad revenue from me.

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Auto-playing video ads are the work of the devil.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Autoplay Ads.

What's with the autoplay video ads that have been appearing on the site? It's incredibly jarring to be listening to music in your headphones and then have an advertisement blaring at you the second you log on to the site. If there have to be video ads, can they be muted by default?
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled The ads on this website are nothing short of vile..

Why why why would you pollute a website full of devoted music lovers with obnoxious banners and auto-play video ads?? At its best, Last.fm serves as a tool of focused reflection, recollection, and interaction, but the current ad set-up (and the interface transition in general) turns it into a spectacle of distraction of confusion. I've really never been so affected by a website's updates. 

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And I have to register on a third-party website to post feedback? ugh.
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Like everyone (including me) said earlier, AdBlock just makes things worse. I suggested Ghostery, which allows any user to see which advertisers are slowing down a website. All you have to do is create a free Ghostery account, log into the extension, and click on the extension logo once it glows orange. And this is coming from a current subscriber!
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Ghostery does not get rid of the problem, so stop suggesting it. Longtime Ghostery user here.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled "You've got an ad blocker installed".

That wasn't a problem for the last 6 years on Last.fm, so why is it now?

It's really unnecessary to show me that same pop up banner (or whatever it is) 100 times in a day. Can you please give us the option to make it go away for good, like the other websites do? Maybe we could click on something like "I got it!" or "Don't show this again"? It's really annoying seeing it on every damn page. 
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[deleted] Sorry, I misunderstood your question
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it's not enough that the site got messed up and community is half-dead, the users must keep on suffering. yaaay last.fm
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With all the angry people that don't like ads, they still care about us more to whitelist than actually do the right thing by removing the ads. I am still never going to disable the adblock. If it has ads, even a little. I will not disable or whitelist the site or any site like it. How is it called support when you don't support your visitors by making them happy, and how is making it annoying, keep us wanting to support you? Charging for it does not do it.
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The pop-up appears to be back to full-screen, so I guess it's back to disabling JavaScript. When will developers learn that users don't want to put up with this crap? If you need ad revenues that badly, talk to ABP about their acceptable ad policy.

edit: 1h later: and now, after re-enabling JavaScript, I don't see any pop-up at all. FWIW, the one at the bottom of the screen was by far the least obnoxious; having to dismiss a pop-up to access essential profile features is not what I would call convenient. If either the fullscreen one or the top-right one come back, I'll probably re-disable JavaScript, but for now I guess it can stay.
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Well, since Last.fm is now basically unusable and they clearly want me to stop using the site, I am now officially turning off all of my scrobblers and never returning.

It's always sad when a site makes the decision to drive away its most dedicated users.  But since I'm obviously not wanted, I'll gladly oblige.
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well the blocking pop-up is back once again and it won't dismiss..
[img]https://snag.gy/eWjhmQ.jpg[/img]

this is so annoying and off-putting. REMOVE IT COMPLETELY!
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They still haven't fixed this? Wow. What annoys me the most is what is the point of putting a notification where require you to turn off ABP. Everyone is generally well known that advertisements are dangerous, they're full of viruses, spyware and malware devices that have the ability to hack into the computer. It happened to me two years ago that the program installed on my computer by itself.

So many viruses, spyware and Trojan device I had on my machine installed, even Malwarebytes anti-malware were unable to block them all. Modern viruses are now behaving like the virus definitions; they act as a part anti-virus programs. I had to go to the safe mode feature to permanently destroyed and deleted from my computer.

He reproduced with the unprecedented speed, if I didn't have the anti-malware software installed, I would have no choice but to get a new computer. By the way, get anti-ad block killer, people; it will save you stress. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMVm4T1G0CU

Here's a little citation of a journal of mine that I wrote about this case. Look what can happen if you don't have ABP software installed on your machine. Keep it in your mind that advertisement is a type of web threat, a danger for you and your computer.

A web threat is any threat that uses the World Wide Web to facilitate cyber crime. Web threats use multiple types of malware and fraud, all of which utilize HTTP or HTTPS protocols, but may also employ other protocols and components, such as links in email or IM, or malware attachments or on servers that access the Web. They benefit cyber criminals by stealing information for subsequent sale and help absorb infected PCs into botnets. Web threats pose a broad range of risks, including financial damages, identity theft, loss of confidential information/data, theft of network resources, damaged brand/personal reputation, and erosion of consumer confidence in e-commerce and online banking. It is a type of threat related to information technology (IT). The IT risk, i.e. risk affecting has gained and increasing impact on society due to the spread of IT processes. 

And if today’s malware runs mostly runs on Windows because it’s the commonest executable platform, tomorrow’s will likely run on the Web, for the very same reason. Because, like it or not, the Web is already a huge executable platform, and we should start thinking of it this way, from a security perspective.” – Giorgio Maone. 

The growth of web threats is a result of the popularity of the Web – a relatively unprotected, widely and consistently used medium that is crucial to business productivity, online banking, and e-commerce as well as the everyday lives of people worldwide. The appeal of Web 2.0 applications and websites increases the vulnerability of the Web. Most Web 2.0 applications make use of AJAX, a group of web development programming tools used for creating interactive web applications or rich Internet applications. While users benefit from greater interactivity and more dynamic websites, they are also exposed to the greater security risks inherent in browser client processing.

Examples: In September 2008, malicious hackers broke into several sections of BusinessWeek.com to redirect visitors to malware-hosting websites. Hundreds of pages were compromised with malicious JavaScript pointing to third-party servers. In August 2008, popular social networking sites were hit by a worm using social engineering techniques to get users to install a piece of malware. The worm installs comments on the sites with links to a fake site. If users follow the link, they are told they need to update their Flash Player. The installer then installs malware than the Flash Player. The malware then downloads a rogue anti-spyware application, AntiSpy Spider. In May 2008, websites worldwide were compromised with a malicious JavaScript. Initially, a half million websites worldwide were infected with an SQL injection which leveraged a ZLOB variant which then downloaded / additional Trojan onto users' PCs. Then websites in China, Taiwan, and Singapore were compromised followed shortly thereafter by humanitarian, government and news sites in the UK, Israel, and Asia. In this attack, the compromised websites led, through a variety of redirects, to the download of a Trojan.

TL; DR rant, stick to ABP and Anti Adblock Killer, that is my advice. End of story! 

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I agree completely with all of this; IT security is a major concern of mine, because it's already in a terrible state, and messages like these worsen it. I wrote the following comment on a thread that later got merged, so I'm going to repost it here:
I've been saying for awhile that I'm not willing to disable ad-blockers for any site. I whitelist acceptable advertising in ABP, because I don't want to sponge off sites for nothing, but at the same time I'm not willing to accept unvetted advertising on my computer. There's too much malicious advertising out there, and I'm not willing to accept anyone's guarantee that they won't have any of it on their site. (For that matter, for the last several months I've been disabling JavaScript on sites by default as well, and only enable it for sites which I trust and which are annoying to use or don't work at all without it.)

The only place where I ever browse without an ad-blocker is on my phone, and I almost always restrict my mobile browsing to a small number of sites with minimal or no advertising. I also don't have anything of importance on my phone that isn't backed up elsewhere, so I'm not particularly concerned whether I lose any data on it.

It's not that difficult to get ads whitelisted by ABP, and it'll enable the ads on your site to reach much larger audiences. It may cost a certain amount of revenue if you're large enough, but the cost will probably be offset by the increased revenues you'll get from doing so, because most people who use ABP (which remains by far the most widely used ad-blocker) leave the acceptable ads on. By doing this, you also gain the benefit of not annoying users who have been loyal members of your community for, at this point, well above a decade in many cases.

I understand that site costs are becoming an issue across the Internet and everyone has their own strategy to deal with it, but asking people to disable ad-blockers doesn't strike me as a productive solution. My response to AllMusic's ad-blocker message (which prevents viewing the site at all) has effectively been to stop viewing the site almost completely (though apparently, if you disable JavaScript, the message doesn't appear, so I might just leave JavaScript off on that site going forward), and when I do view it, I view it through web.archive.org or Google's cache - which means they get no revenue from my visits, and no record of my site traffic. Last.fm's message hasn't been that bad for the last several months, but apparently they've put one like that in for the lyrics, which is monumentally stupid - there are hundreds of lyrics sites on the internet that don't ask you to disable your ad-blocker to view them. That just means I'll go elsewhere if I need lyrics now.

The one time I did (accidentally) browse last.fm on desktop without an ad-blocker, I resolved never to do it again. Auto-play video ads which have sound, cover part of the screen, and can't be dismissed, only muted, are barely more acceptable than an actual virus.
It does look like they've finally gotten acceptable ads whitelisted with ABP, which makes the ad-blocker message even more unacceptable now. You're getting ad revenues from people who use ABP now, last.fm, so quit yer bitching.

But really, people's computer security practices are bad enough without websites encouraging them to make those practices worse. Messages like these are quite likely to increase the spread of viruses, malware, and various other security threats, and these threats are only likely to worsen as more and more of our economy comes to depend upon computers, smartphones, and the Web.
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Every time I whitelist last.fm the ads crash my browser. Last.fm isn't the only website I visit, so I also lose the work I have up in other tabs.

I can live with the tiny nag banner at the top of the page, but now they've got the full page pop-up going again as well (albeit periodically). Do you really need to be running both? Most of the time I can't dismiss it. I hit Continue and it just reloads the pop-up. I have to refresh the page. The other day I went to connect my Mixcloud account to last.fm and the app permissions page triggered the pop-up. Really? Seriously?

I don't ad block on my phone or my work computer, so I'm still generating ad revenue. I've said it before, but I'll say it again; bring back forums and a proper About Me and you'll get a lifetime subscription from me.

Meh, whatever....
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I agree with everything that Cassandra-Leo said; the computer security is more important than begging millions of last.FM users to disable ABP extension. I'm 100%; sure, a better alternative to earn the cash without putting the annoying banner that tells you to disable your ABP extension exists. Which alternative is, only they know, but they refuse to switch to it?
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Ad blocking revisited ....

I run Adblock to deal with extreme sites but since Last.fm  provides a service that I like I whitelisted as desired. Sadly the ad block nagware pop ups persist. I have determined this is due to my running PrivacyBadger. While I'm willing to tolerate the ads I don't want to be tracked. Please fix your nagware otherwise I might as well just turn Adblock back on.
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What about the "Achievement Hunter" ad with the sudden, startlingly blare of music. It makes me jump out of my seat by the time I am able to find the mute button or close the sound on the site tab in Chrome. 

I understand the need for ads, but I am not hovering over the ad. It just starts automatically.

Is there an ad that isn't so intrusive, annoying, and obnoxious? 

Thanks.
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That new advert on mobiles that automatically redirects to some dodgy gift card promo is so bloody annoying that I think I'm off browsing this site on mobile entirely.
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I've gotten that redirect on other websites. It might be a virus from one of the advertisers.
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Patrick

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Get AdBlock for Android and smartphone; it will save you stress Cassandra.
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I just visited Last.FM page by using incognito mode. The ads are constantly reloading the last.FM page that I visited. New ads jump every second, moving old ads with new ones. It's frustrating. I'm adhering to AdBlock AdGuard and anti-AdBlock killer script.
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Just jumping in to say that these autoplaying video ads that load on every page and blast audio are absolutely miserable and frustrating. Adblock it is :(
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I have last.fm white listed, but I'm still getting the warning about using an ad blocker.  My username is Scarecrow237, I use Google Chrome and uBlock Origin versions 1.14.24.  It was suggested that I post this here on a reddit thread.
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Patrick

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 < Care to explain LFM Moderators? My extension blocked 1,195 ads only on the settings page of my profile.
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If you ever get annoyed by the not-so-easy-to-remove anti-adblock banner, just add this to your filters: last.fm##div[style*="visibility:"]
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Patrick

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My Adblock has an integrated anti-Adblock killer. I also have a script that Tampermonkey is managing it. I'll add those filters now, thanks tho!
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Patrick

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Any update? I started receiving this hysterical message where it tells me to disable my AdBlock extensions. I've noticed that Ghostery obstruct Advertisement too, but it also triggers this hysterical message. I will not disable it, no matter how much you beg me to do.
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Well it's obvious nobody at Last.fm cares about their users.  Their actions for the past couple of years are those of an organization that is trying to drive users away.  
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The new Adblock message is pretty huge and colorful and annoying!

Old one that was a black narrow strip was much cleaner.
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So I just logged onto Last.fm for the first time in quite a while... I was surprised to see no adblock nag message, nothing glitchy with the site.  In short, this is a big improvement.  Anyone else confirm this for them as well?