Several albums scrobbled from Spotify are not clickable

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Yes, I have also seen that and I just assumed it was because they were listened to very recently and Last.fm haven't created a page for them yet.
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In my experience, unclickable tracks, artists, and albums are caused by wrong auto-corrections. The system thinks you're using the wrong tag(s) and tries to fix it for you. However, it fails to do so correctly. The reason you can't click on these links is because the pages don't actually exist in the database. 

Take your "Glenn Gould plays Schoenberg" example. Last.fm Scrobbled it under Arnold Schönberg, but this album doesn't exist under Schönberg. However, if you go to Glenn Gould's page you'll see the exact same album is there on the database with 72 imported tracks under his name here.
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Esther Haaijman

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Kanji is used for Japanese artists because they are Japanese and this website is universal. It bothers me to no end when people romanize, or even TRANSLATE the original titles and it creates wrong statistics on Last.fm. I don't get why you would do that. 
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@James Joul: Thanks. I thought it would be something like this. So it's basically a Last.fm bug, which should be fixed... Is this the place where the competent people from last.fm will be informed about it?

@Esther Haaijman: Last.fm website isn't universal, because it's in english language. It doesn't have language mutations/translations to other languages. Hence it's for people which read english and expect english transcriptions. For japanese artists it should use hepburn which is common in english speaking countries. But this matter is out of the scope of my actual problem with unclickable albums, so I let it be.
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@Artran: Yes, these are support forums intended for bug submissions and feedback. Staff from Last.fm regularly post here and I'm sure they read everything. Getting this issue fixed is another story, however, and I can't speak to that. There's a very long list of bugs to squash and features to implement.

Also, Last.fm is available in many other languages. There are even different versions of biographies posted in different languages. Check the footer on any Last.fm page!  :)
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@James Joul: Oh, well. I try to be patient :-) Thanks again for well informed reply.
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Esther Haaijman

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Why is it again common sense? Would you translate Arabic, Russian, or Greek too? These song titles are as the artist created them. Why would you romanize or translate something like that? Not everything in this world is in English and that's how it is. You can't expect an artist to change their entire lingual repertoire for one group of people.
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this is a debateable issue...I also think translation is not nice, but I am not against romanizing...for me it is impossible to read arabic, japanese,korean,chinese and many more languages that do not use roman alphabet...this is a complex issue indeed. Maybe a good idea would be to keep the original creation of an artist, but also provide and a romanizing one...I can understand that auto-corrections and merging issues will occur...complex thing indeed
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I just want to add, that I continue to scrobble composer Arnold Schönberg from Spotify and many albums (I dare to say most of them) are not clickable.  So, there's definitely a *system* problem with auto-corrections, because from Spotify Schönberg is scrobbled as Schoenberg (and that's not wrong, he used this version of his surname when he settled in USA).

EDIT: Same with Toru Takemitsu
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You're right, this looks like a catalogue and corrections issue which we need to untangle.  I believe there's already a bug ticket for this, and if I understand it correctly, the site is trying to correct to a track that currently doesn't exist on the website (so there's no url for the track or album). You can also get this behaviour if you scrobble a track which has a different album artist from the track artist, when that album spelling doesn't exist.

This should be fixed, but it's not straightforward as the issue is embedded in the way the scrobble database, catalogue, corrections system, and your library interact with each other - so it could take a while, I'm afraid.  In the meantime, turning corrections off in your settings might help, but this would only be reflected in your recent tracks, not the library.  It might also be possible to force the site create the relevant album pages by manually scrobbling the album as the corrected artist (e.g. Arnold Schönberg, not Arnold Schonberg) -- I'll look into this later.
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I disabled the corrections in my settings, but it didn't help.

Please, look also on Takemitsu and Elgar. It's the same problem. Thanks!
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Another example of composer when correction of his name doesn't work is Tomaso Albinoni. Albums are not linked (hence not clickable). From Spotify is scrobbled as Tomaso Albinoni, but here he is with his middle name Tomaso Giovanni Albinoni. Examples in my library.
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