Unwanted followers/stalkers

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Dear lastfm staff, I understand that you're trying to better your site from what you used to have, but when it comes to followers I know that this is just me, but there are certain followers that I do not want to follow me for personal and safety reasons. I do not care who views my profile. I am sure that I am not the only one who feels this way. Also, if you plan on being like twitter and tumblr, they at least give us the ability to block people and change our names to prevent such things as I stated above. Again, I do not care if they view my profile I just do not want them to follow me, message me or have me on their list. Having them following me doesn't do a thing for me because I couldn't careless about what bands I have in common with them or whatever else they think. I just want to enjoy this site with only certain people I care about who I follow and so on. Please take this into consideration for the safety reasons. The blocking only prevents them from following me and messaging me, I do not care if they view my profile.
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pizzicatoiv

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Does the block user feature under Settings->Privacy do what you're requesting?
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Pizzicatoiv, this should work, could work .. except block, ignore feature doesn't work. Jon had mention at the beginning of the transfer, that users would have a feature that would work similar to deleting users.  If this is the block .. this doesn't work.  Some of us by no means all of us, use the follower-friends list for people we communicate with on a regular basis.  People who we don't hear from or people that no longer scrobble to their page, we drop from time to time, thus keeping a list of users in a manageable way.   This isn't something new to configure out since this is a "tool" we, as users had.. a choice.  By no means should those who want to bookmark not be able to either by using rss feeds or change one of the tabs such as followers to bookmark. It's simply about choice with the tools we once had, yet still open for those who only want to bookmark. It's a win, win serino. 
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I am just wondering if any of you have any common sense at all? If you cannot understand about the post I wrote about and I am just wasting my time on all of you. I am not going to explain it. I have been using lastfm since 2009 and I know how it works or did work and I am studying computers at uni. This new lastfm site is broken most things do not work on lastfm. I am asking lastfm to implement a block feature just like how twitter and tumblr work. I am not stupid. It's like beating my head against the wall. I know how lastfm works and if you cannot understand this post, please do not waste my time with suggestions I know do not work because this site is broken.
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pizzicatoiv

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best of luck on your computer studies. 
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Don't expect anyone to help you after a comment like that.
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Well, if you read anything else instead of being an idiot, you would have read the part that says I am still in uni learning about computers.
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"change our names to prevent such things as I stated above" That is what we want. On anything else good luck.
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Hi Gato, 

We care about your privacy on the site, but as with all feature requests, we need understand exactly what you're requesting and why.

Earlier you said:

"for personal and safety reasons."
"to prevent such things as I stated above."

Not to be obtuse, but what reasons?  Which things?  If you can clarify the privacy and safety concerns you have with allowing other last.fm users to follow you on the site, I can make a stronger case for getting the work prioritised.    

For example, here's a privacy concern we can act on:

"Please make it so that only people I approve can see my event attendance.  I don't want strangers knowing when I'm going out and where."


That's a reasonable request which addresses a specific privacy concern: a stranger could look up your event list on Last.fm and try to approach you after a gig.
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Like leaving shouts to a certain user on my list that I like and talk all the time, but having some creepy user reading all our messages and finding things about not meant for them, but it's a public profile, but My case is that I pointed it out the way tumblr and twitter use their block features. They do that for safety reasons, so why can't lastfm? tumblr is still a public profile, but they give us the ability to block certain followers and allow us to change names to help prevent stalkers and unwanted followers. I do not care if they view my profile. Look into the way twitter and tumblr allows blocking and how it works great with name changing and all.
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"a stranger could look up your event list on Last.fm and try to approach you after a gig." lol Now you're giving people ideas...
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I follow people simply to bookmark their page so that I can see their library for recommendations in future. Nothing stalkery about it. No need to be so paranoid.
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The way things used to be was perfectly acceptable, why you changed that I'll never know. It just makes it more comfortable for people in general to give them that choice if you want to have a particular friend/follower (the actual terminology is irrelevant) via a personal e-mail notification. I returned to Last FM after a hiatus to see what you've done with the new site and I have to say it's starkly obvious that the social media aspect of the site has been totally ruined (though the lack of neighbours is by far the most damaging). Frankly I don't blame users for being paranoid about the whole "followers" thing, you should give them a choice of who they want to interact with rather than simply assume that everybody is happy to accept it.  What is most frustrating is all these aspects were there with the old site, but you've completely stripped of it of all it's core and we the users are left with a subtly more aesthetically pleasing site, with very little of it's actual usefulness. 
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Okay, thanks for clarifying.  Last.fm profiles (including the shoutbox) have always been public, and we don't have any plans to change that -- if you want to have a private conversation with another user, I would encourage you to use private messages instead.

However, changing your username is something that's planned for the future, and I've also created a ticket to make it so that blocking a user stops them from following you (and removes them if they already were).  I hope this helps.
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great news! thanks for your efforts!
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That sounds great. Also another reason for me posting this was because recently I had a follower who created an account in 2010 and back then in the old lastfm they were called friend collectors and also who hasn't scrobbled since 2010 and has like 876 people on their who they probably never typed to and I just find to be creepy. I am glad you plan on implementing this feature soon. Followers like that who create accounts and do use them I just them to be creepy and stalkerish.
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That sounds great. Also another reason for me posting this was because recently I had a follower who created an account in 2010 and back then in the old lastfm they were called friend collectors and also who hasn't scrobbled since 2010 and has like 876 people on their who they probably never typed to and I just find to be creepy. I am glad you plan on implementing this feature soon. Followers like that who create accounts and do use them I just them to be creepy and stalkerish.
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That sounds great. Also another reason for me posting this was because recently I had a follower who created an account in 2010 and back then in the old lastfm they were called friend collectors and also who hasn't scrobbled since 2010 and has like 876 people on their who they probably never typed to and I just find to be creepy. I am glad you plan on implementing this feature soon. Followers like that who create accounts and do not use them I just them to be creepy and stalkerish.
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I really hope they're still working on this, having to deal with follower hoarders is so irritating. 
Asking them to unfollow you is just a waste of time, they'll just say "I'm not a hoarder" when you can clearly see they have hundreds of friends and not to mention that your compatibility is VERY LOW.

That's why the follower system doesn't work without a block function.
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I'm not sure, how changing your "current" user name  will solve the problem, I find this laughable. Since staff has said, as far as changing your user name, other users will be able to look up and see your past user names as well as current name.  Much like ebay does regarding name change- other users can see your history.  
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I had no idea they planned on doing it like that. What I like about ebay is how they hide your identity and so all those hackers, loser,s stalkers cannot see what you buy and bid on.:)
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It's shame they don't make things like before while keeping this design and adding new things to it, I'd wish they would have done it like that.:(
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@ el jefe  I don't mean the blocking of a user name while bidding on ebay. I'm talking about  your user profile itself, The profile name such as, you name yourself "Fishbreath" (don't ask =D) thought it was a good funny name. Then you start to sell some products  you find that people don't want to do business with someone who goes by the name "FishBreath". So you change your profile name to "Fresh Breath" .What you may not have noticed is under your profile "information page" any user can check to see what names you have used in the past. Therefore in this case someone could check and see you were known to be FishBreath before your new name of Freshbreath.Ebay also dates how long you were under the different names of the past.  The reasoning  to have complete transparency.

So in the case of LFM, if someone thinks by changing their user name, that they can be bad actors and bother you again.  You will know who they were in the past and of course who they are now. As well as LFM.
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That's not true because a long time ago ebay changed things for protection of all users. I cannot see other people's names on ebay unless they give it to me or you're selling something. but usually ebay has names protected like this Buyer: y***i ( 13Yellow star icon for feedback score in between 10 to 49)
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I know from personal experience as my account was broken into. Ebay changed my user ID by adding a number to the ending of my user ID.  Again I'm not talking about the  changes around bidding disguising name as you have displayed here.  I'm talking about when you sign on. The top left side, where it says " Hi (insert name) highlight menu> you will see your userID. It will be in here you will see if someone has changed the user ID .For the first 30 days of the change.    Yes it has changed a bit, you now can change your userID every thirty days. But once you change your UserID, your old UserID will be visible for thirty days
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Totally agree! I don't want to some random users following me.
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This will change in the second quarter. 
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Official Response
Removing followers has now gone live.  To remove an unwanted follower simply add them to your ignore list.  If they're already on your ignore list, remove them and then add them again.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Deleting people from followers list.

I'd like an option or at least a possibility of getting rid of specific followers. The unwanted people still persist in my followers list even if i unfollow and put them in ignore list. But i dont want some people (who doesnt use the website anymore or people who i ignore for some reason) to appear in my followers list.
Please.
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But do they stay on ignore where they can no longer follow me? or do I have to do this everytime?
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The option is supposed to remove unwanted followers without a chance for them to follow you again, as far as I understand it. Why don't you just try it out?
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That is all I needed to know hans-jurgen.

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