Website update - 13th October

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Hello everyone,

We just released Sprints 193 and 194. Here's some of what you get:


Features
  • Add 'recently popular track' and 'latest release' to artist pages
  • Improved the cold start process for new users
    New users will get recommendations in their homefeed and profile before they scrobble
  • Artist top listeners
  • New design for subscribe page

Bugfixes
  • Always show playbuttons in homefeed
  • Horizontally tile Track My Music background
  • Use correct affiliate on library track pages
  • Fix playbar synchronisation issue while watching YouTube videos

We're working on notifications (honestly) and some other fun stuff.

Cheers,
James
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James Scott, Web dev lead

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Louisa O

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Despite the weird spammy accounts that "scrobble" tracks a hundred times a minute showing up in the top listeners, I think I prefer this algorithm to the previous one; it was really weird to see people who scrobbled an artist, say, 200 times in the top listener when other users had scrobbles of more than ten times that amount. 

Would it be possible to able to click the "Top listeners", and a page would come up where it shows more stats such as who had scrobbled the artist most within a given time frame? That could be cool
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people asked about one, but developers released another. fantastically stupid company!
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ZuClann .

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may be you back old About me, Library with big clear pictures (artists)... may be developing not fun, but useful, new features?! list (statistics) of most popular genres and year (by album) according your library artists? add pic of scrobbling by...vox, foobar etc? 
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I also STILL miss this view and wish to view 500+ items on a single page in list view like we could before.

Things I've wanted for a over a year...

- Account wipe and re-sync (as my play totals are so inaccurate)
- More data to be displayed on a single page in all library views, before we had 500 but now it's only 50, which I still haven't got used to and don't want to.

Something I've wanted for a few years.
- A stable and fully functional desktop scrobbler, the thing crashes pretty much every day and it messes up my lists because of duplicates and missed scrobbles.

There's lots more but off the top of my head.
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James L.

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Ugh, the nostalgia hurts.
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Tom Stephen

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Quuuite good, if I can say - from four things added, two are useful for me, two are something which could be replaced by more important things, but still, not bad. Also, also, it's so nice to see "best listeners from artist" - old Last.fm feature is back, yay!
"Latest released" and "Popular This Week" songs could be not on top (just to be more inconspicuous) but at this moments it looks good, I need just to get used to it here.


Anyway, I'm waiting for something serious. Especially if we face the fact there was month to update everything. So, well done, guys, and I wish you'd bring back also something else (and big) from old Last.fm.

Edit: I'm just wondering why people "following" me are now splitted in two sites - does the counter minimized users amount to just 30/40 per site? It was more clear before.
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Jon, Community & Customer Services

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Hi Tom, thanks for your feedback; though I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "I'm just wondering why people "following" me are now splitted in two sites" - can you please clarify or post a screenshot?  
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Followers are paginated now, i.e. split into several pages with about 30 followers.
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Tom Stephen

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Yes, I meant this what Hans-Jürgen said. I'm just not perfect with words choice. It's not that comfortable for me to search someone from followers after this change.
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Timezones?
Some way to fix up our libraries (merging/editing mis-scrobbled songs, albums, etc)?
Neighborhood radio?

These are the things I've been waiting for.
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James L.

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I noticed they have a tendency to not work on things that we ask for.

Maybe, just maybe, if we keep quiet on what we want, they might actually work on it?
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Good
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Action Radar

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Lamentations 3:25. If the lord is Last.FM, then they will be good to their users who wait.
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Elliot Robinson

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Alternatively, James, maybe we should all request pointless stuff that nobody would actually want or care about, so they work on the good bits instead.
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James Scott, I wrote about this over 10 month ago. When r u add the   - Delete all (or something) for func below?
In your opinion, is more important fun stuff or add this functionality? I just want to understand how much users still have to wait for the implementation of this basic functionality.  I know you do not care about the views of users, you know what to do, but all the same - when?
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About artist top listeners:
1. Filter out listeners with more than 1 million plays.
Especially http://www.last.fm/user/sl_bg and http://www.last.fm/user/sl_p
They are bots who are top listeners to every major artist!

2. 4 top listeners are too few. 10 would be nice!
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Thanks Hugo. 

1. Yep, I agree those two need to be filtered out.  I've written a ticket to address this.
2. There is a top listeners page in the works, it wasn't quite ready enough to meet this release, but should be available soon.
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Nice, although just noticed this is actually two sprints...

I really need the wipe & resync thing to come back, my overall totals are so messed up!
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So...there something realy bothers me..
Whenever I go in one's library, and I click at the artist, I get to the listening stats of the user instead of the artist. ITS REALY ANNOYING.
Is there any chance you'll change it to be like it used to be ? (click on artist-->artist, click on number of listening to an artist in user library-->listening stats)
get what I mean ? thanks

and just one more missing thing for me, the personal tag library (I want to see all the artist I tag under a specific tag and right now its impossible)
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In my opinion this is the way how it should work. So you didn't only see the artist, you can also see which albums and tracks by an artist a user was listening to. How else you will find out this? In this progress you are able to recommend a special album or track of an artist. In summary, you can dig deeper into someones library. And right below the artist name you find the link to the artist page.
The best compromise you can find in this case. Agree?
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Well Andreas, just like it used to be, that a click on the number of plays near the artist name will lead to that page, and a click on artist photo/name leads to artist page, just like it used to be, the way you enjoy both world
For me its furstrating because I tend to open a lot of new windows for each interesting library I find, you see, a lot of artist, and now I have to go in each and every one of them again and click on another link. Its a good waste of time
When as I said, you can enjoy both worlds like used to be, numbers for stats page, picture for artist page
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Thanks for your feedback gal2659, I know exactly what you mean, and I've done the same thing with multiple tabs myself.  

Thing is, the library interface is potentially confusing (especially if you fiddle with date ranges), so we have to keep the navigation consistent across the 4 main tabs (scrobbles, artists, albums, tracks), even at the expense of making it slightly more cumbersome for advanced users.  Keep in mind also that the scrobbles tab doesn't have a scrobble count next to it (since it's marking individual scrobbles), so you suggestion of using scrobble counts to link through to the library wouldn't work on that page (you could use the date, but I'd argue that that's not obvious and inconsistent).

Maybe there's another solution?  For example, clicking the artist photo might work well as a secret shortcut link; although that raises a similar problem with consistency, where on other tabs, that action plays the album or track.  Probably the answer here is an ugly 'jump to artist page' link or icon; but I'm open to ideas here.  I'll discuss this with our designer, perhaps he can think of a good way to do this.
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Well, my solution was as you suggested, clicking on the artist photo, so if that's a trouble maker for you guys, than I have no suggestions further
But thanks for the answear
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I've discussed it with Paul, and he's gonna give it some thought. Hopefully we can figure something out for you.
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What happened to "You first scrobbled this track on MM DD YYYY" on a track's page?

It was useful to reference it quickly without having to dig through several layers of library to find the track.
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Thoughts? Ideally the number of plays would be a link to the user's library for that artist - just like the current profile charts.
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This seems both a helpful and logical feature amendment therefore expect to see it implemented in the summer of 2020.
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Will there be a top listeners feature for tracks and albums? I feel like listening to the radio of a person that binge listens to the same track as me would be more interesting than listening to the radio of a person that is just a complete and utter fanboy of that artist that has a song that I really love.
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ok but, for the millionth time, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DELETE ARTISTS AND 'UNKNOWN DATE' TRACKS FROM OUR LIBRARIES?

how hard could it be to add these options back
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Site is all messed up. The player on top says "Loading Player ..." and the auto refresh of scrobbles are not even working anymore on any web browser. What did you guys do to it? I used to listen to my music on my smartphone with wifi on and watch my plays be added and now to even see them, I have to refresh page manually. What is the point of setting auto refresh in settings, if you can use it at all? Fix this. Don't add features and not make sure they don't mess up the site. Check first before adding them.

Oh and you guys are holding back on some requests that are dating at least a year ago, and the replies from you guys are saying planned but never happen. Changing usernames and time zone to name a couple. What is up with that?
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If you use an adblocker, make sure your lists are updated. You might be disabling all JavaScript by mistake.

If this is still a problem and switching off the ad blocker doesn't work, let me know your browser version, language and what page you're looking at and I'll take a closer look.
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Also what country you're in would be useful.
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Frankenrin

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"Also I'm delightfully ignoring the rest of your questions."
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Patrick

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Switch to AdBlock AdGuard maybe the problem lays in filters, off the topic, which ABP do you use? AdBlock plus or AdBlock?
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If you are still taking questions; I was wondering how the  "notifications ... and other fun stuff" is coming along?
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James Scott, Web dev lead

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It's going alright, thanks. How's everything with you?
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James Scott, Web dev lead

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(notifications will be here soon; not this week, but soon)
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Do you have an ETA you can give us about the ability to remove "unknown date" scrobbles, James? Perhaps also give a little explaination as to why the feature has been held up...is it to do with the database formation?
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Patrick

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Am I only one who noticed that notification system has finally started to work?
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James Scott, Web dev lead

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Argh!

We just deployed the latest sprint which contains all the code for notifications. They'll be hidden for a week or so, so that we can make sure everything is stable.

However... I forgot to hide them. I only realised this as I was putting the release notes together so had to quickly turn them off again. You were quicker than me though, so you got to see a sneak preview.

They should be released properly (on purpose) soon.
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Also, I noticed a new "recommended next" tab on the movile tag pages. It seems to display a random related tag.
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Patrick

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I noticed that too, I must admit that the idea they build is not bad.
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James Joul

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It's it a bit redundant though? I was waiting for a new update thread to discuss it, but it doesn't look like there's going to be one. 

One suggestion: That big red button is unnecessary. Looks much better if you make the red background transparent, something I've already done with my Stylish script.

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Patrick

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This enormous red button is useless; it's enough to move a mouse cursor immediately on a banner and problem is solved, you are ready to visit an artist page.

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