Website update - 25th January (New music page - subscriber preview)

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Hello friends,

We’ve just released an update. Here’s what’s in it...

New Music Page (Subscriber preview)

We’ve been busy redesigning the music page to better help you find the music you’ll love. We’re still adding the final touches but, because we’re excited to start showing it to people, we wanted to give subscribers a sneak preview.





The redesigned music page is your personalised window into the Last.fm catalogue. It’s where you can find your recommendations, and what’s currently popular, whenever you’re looking to discover something new. From new artists to read about, interesting tags, tracks to listen to, new releases, and more, the music page should always have something interesting for you.

This change also brings back the dedicated artist recommendations section, as well as adding new pages for track, album, and tag recs.



Oh, and If you're missing the old music page, we've moved it to the new charts section.

We hope you like what we’ve done here. Please let us know what you think.


Bugfixes
  • Fixed a problem where track pages were sometimes missing their play button

Cheers,
Team Last.fm
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James Scott, Web dev lead

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Hans-Jürgen, Moderator

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Your homepage also features your recommendations at the moment when you're logged in, but will be redesigned in the future as well, as far as I know.
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dancingmongoose

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Now that's something I'm looking forward to. I'd very much like to see the homepage become a personalised dashboard, where I can see a bit of what I've been listening to, what my friends are listening to, what's charting globally/locally/in my circles, recommendations etc
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andresro14

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This looks prettywell.
I miss from the older website the 'now playing' section that showed what were listening my friends in that moment. I would love if you bring that back
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garynotrashcoug

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This was one of my favorite features as well.
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Lower Gets

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Really missing lost of social features. Even likes are not notified
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Jan

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I'll dump all my 'friends' and block those following me if that feature ever returns. F*k social features.
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James Joul

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I just checked my first page of recommendations and out of the 20 artists listed, I've already Scrobbled 18 of them at least once. When I'm looking for new music, I want new music. 

Well, at least it looks pretty. I hope you intend to improve the recommendation system. All I want is a list of new artists I can discover. Also, please give us the option to dismiss recommendations so I don't have to see the same ones over and over. 
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James Joul

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The whole page looks great, though. Like a big music hub!
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>>> please give us the option to dismiss recommendations so I don't have to see the same ones over and over. 

We definitely want to do this, though it'll require a bit of thought because we've only done artists in the past.   Once implemented, hopefully it'll address your main concern regarding artist recs.  

>>> I've already Scrobbled 18 of them at least once.  When I'm looking for new music, I want new music. 

Fair enough, that's your preference, but it's by design and it's unlikely to be changed.   I believe the cutoff is between 2-4 scrobbles depending on how recently you scrobbled the artist.

As far as we're concerned, these are valid recommendations that match strongly against a user's listening profile, and it may be the case that they have simply forgotten about these artists or just never got around to them.  e.g. it's recommending me Jay Som and, ok sure, I've scrobbled her twice last month, but for me it's a timely reminder for me to properly check out her music. 

Maybe it's different for you, but I have over 4500 artists with 1 scrobble in my library (some 90 pages worth) -- there's no way I can remember them all, and I'm sure I've missed some good music there.  What I know for sure is that going through my top artists, I can definitely think of ones that I scrobbled once or twice on the recs radio years ago, but didn't truly discover until much later.    If we implemented your suggestion of "new means new", these artists might never come to my attention again.  :? 

Anyway, like I said, dismissing recs is something we definitely want to do, and I'd expect that to address your main concern here.  And there's always page 2 ;) 
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That's good to hear. Thanks for the reply. 

About the recommendations with 1-2 Scrobbles... For me, there's a reason artists in my library only have one Scrobble. Either they didn't interest me enough initially to warrant further listening, or I've saved them somewhere to explore at a later date. 

Almost everything on this recommendation page is useless to me. I currently have a backlog of 527 artists that I do like waiting to be explored in more detail. Wouldn't it make more sense to recommend artists I've Scrobbled say 5-10 times? 5 Scrobbles means I liked them enough to check out some of their music and I would welcome those in my recommendations much more than the thousands of artists with 1 Scrobble I've simply passed by and shown no interest in. 

I have no issue finding new material to listen to. But it's a time-consuming process and it would just be nice to visit a page every now and then and find something I might enjoy without searching for it.
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Elliot Robinson

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James, I feel like if you "have a backlog of 527 artists" you really shouldn't be looking for yet more new artists ;-)
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James Joul

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Haha, maybe. But discovering new artists is what I love most about music! 

I already spend the vast majority of my listening time exploring those new artists. It's just that my current system leaves me with a virtually unlimited stockpile of great music. It's a rather good issue to have really.  :)

Still, is it too much to ask for some new music on my recommendations page?
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"Recommendations" of course doesn't necessarily mean "you never heard it before". But I also think there should be a stream to recommend music you never scrobbled before. Recommendations are like a Spotify Mix, they can include music you already know, but Spotify also has a stream dedicated to music you probably don't know (Discover Weekly). It only needs to be a copy of the existing recommendations with the condition "exclude tracks in library".
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I would like to see more play buttons wherever possible, i.e. when hovering artist pictures on the Music page which would play their top tracks list then, not their similar artists radios. Also on recommended tags a play button for the related tag radio and on tag pages play buttons for their top tracks.
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Fergus Duniho

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Seeing some of my recommendations, I would like the ability to mark artists I hate and do not wish to see in my recommendations.
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See Jon's reply, dismissing recommendations is under consideration.
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Jon, Community & Customer Services

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We definitely want to do this.
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Yes but WHEN? It should be top priority. You've said for years that you want to bring this original feature back.
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Waiting +2-3 years... They don't need a focus group, they need to do useless updates like this one and another 527))))
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Marcel Napalmovich

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Same with the neighborhood radio. Waiting for years already. I think it's much more easy to code and to implement than a lot of the newer features.
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Hugo Fernbom

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It looks great! I really checked everything and listened to 10 "new" artists yesterday!
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Ramunas K Fishermang

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I was exited to hear about it, but reading through comments above I am disappointed that the recommendations involve many artists I have heard before. I think you may need to evaluate your audience a bit, at least some proportion of us are statistics-freaks and I actually do remember around 95% of the artists I have scrobbled. Reminders of music I have heard before are not interesting at all, because it goes against the concept of discovering something new. 
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Hello, where can I find the neighbours radio?
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Marcel Napalmovich

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It's ridiculous that this hasn't been implemented already
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Wiraccc

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Loving the "listeners you know" preview and the overall look of the page, cheers!
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Indeed a nice little touch that adds a lot to the website experience. @namespace url(http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml);
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JBIR

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Looks great on the pictures! When will it be available for non subscribers? 
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I noticed that under "Albums you might like" it lists non-existing albums, i.e. albums with no track listings so they don't come from the importer, but from user scrobbling meaning they could just be a spelling mistake or something.
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Do you have some examples?
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Jon, Community & Customer Services

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They all have listeners, and as far as I know we don't filter out albums without tracklists, as that exclude brand new music and more obscure stuff.
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Yes, that's what I said first. If someone spells an album/artist/track wrong it may show up in your recommendations. That's not really helpful to get suggestions that don't exist.
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Hey guys!
I like the new design. 
At first, the giant squares on 'Artist For You' and 'Hot Right Now' bothered me, but I like them when seen in context with the smaller objects. 

My main issue with Last.fm's overall design evolution is that information got too spread out. The profile page it's an endless scrolling down looking for information on huge chunks of blank space.
So I was really pleased to see the design moving back to something more compact. 

Do you have any plans/news regarding redesigning the profile pages? 

All the best!
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If you want to jump to the shoutbox of a user, you can also find a direct link in the "More..." dropdown menu on top of the page. Furthermore it is up to the individual settings of a user for his Recent Tracks and Top Artists/Albums/Tracks how long his profile becomes.
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Hey Hans! 
I think you misunderstood what I said: I wasn't talking about the lenght of the charts... I like the ability to choose if I want 20 or 50 artists, for example, showing on my profile. But that's not what I'm talking about. 

What I'm talking about is a design thing: there's too much space between the rows on the charts, for example.
Instead of having only two rows, maybe return to a 3 row page design, where you can explore the sides of the page with more information, instead with thick white spaces of nothing. 

It would be AWESOME to have some sort of update on the status of profile pages... are you working on some sort of update on them?
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It's unlikely that the web team would redesign the profile page to a 3 columns layout. It also depends on the size of the monitor and screen resolution if there is too much space or not, e.g. I don't have this effect on mine, furthermore I often listen to music which has a lot of track info like classical music, so I use it with maximum page width which you can change to a more slim layout by dragging the right edge of the page to the left.

But there are some scripts generated by users which redesign the profile page with a browser extension, so you might try one of those.
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Good job! Thanks)
Don't you plan do add username changing? It's a small, but quite upsetting problem—to use website with nickname made up in childish)
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Are we ever gonne be able to edit album and songs names like you guys promissed ?
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Almost from the very beginning, this devteam with lead James ignore their own focus groups. We are asked for one, for years, they roll out something that nobody needs. This is another such useless update. Amazingly mindless comrades.
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ok, I will let you know what I am thinking about this update...totally useless for me. The "music page" is far away from my interests, I can see new releases from dead people, Bob Marley, Nirvana and so on...Additionally, I do not give a damn about charts. 
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I like the idea of the new releases page.  But it is too much of a mish-mash of re-releases, compilations, EPs, singles, other odds and ends, and data errors to be of much use.  Out of the 70 or so listings under new releases only 6 are actual new albums by artists I have scrobbled.  Separating the wheat from the chaff would not be worth the trouble on a regular basis.
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Do you have a lack of staff members? Are many sick atm? I reported an inappropriate image long time ago and still no reaction: https://www.last.fm/music/Shindy/ROLI

Same question could be asked for the processing of incorrect capitalisations. You apparently need more than 2 weeks it seems: https://getsatisfaction.com/lastfm/topics/incorrect-capitalisation-1an5uupyli4te


would be great if someone could give an update on these
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For me all the reccomendation pages suggested in the main post redirect to the music page.

For example
https://www.last.fm/music/+recommended/artists

is redirected to:
https://www.last.fm/music

Is this happening only to me?
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It's currently only available to subscribers to preview.  We'll be rolling the new design out to everyone else later in the year.
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Here are two other screenshots showing the rest of the new Music page and your recommended tags, too. You can click on them to open them in a separate browser tab and then zoom them to 100%. The new design is also meant to attract new users who are looking for suggestions what to listen to next.



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Gabriel Calin

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Thanks for the clarifications, Jon and Hans.
Do tag reccommendations only refer to tags themselves? Or maybe we will get recommended artists per tag, as in the old last.fm?
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The three artists mentioned per recommended tag are based on your listening history, and the links open the global tag pages where you can e.g. start the tag radio. But there is no tag filter on the page for recommended artists yet if you mean that.
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Yes, that's what I was hoping.
Anyway, really glad to see this new page for reccommendations as this is something I have been waiting for a long time.
Hopefully, there will be a tag filter in the future and this will be perfect - for me at least :)
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There have been two small changes in the meantime concerning recommended tags: their dedicated page is paginated now with 20 recommended tags on each page, and they have also been included on the main Music page now:

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