Website update – 3rd July

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Hi folks,

We've got a few changes to talk about today:

Back in November we released improved versions of our artist, album, and track pages to subscribers, these changes are now visible to everyone. You can find a detailed breakdown of what's changed in our original announcement https://getsatisfaction.com/lastfm/topics/website-design-update-rolling-out-today.

A few artist pages features such as top listeners and past events will be slowly rolled out to all users over the next few days.

We're also experimenting with a new bookmarking feature, subscriber only for now, this is a button on artist, album, track, and tag pages:

Bookmark icon

Clicking it will add the item to your personal list of bookmarks (https://www.last.fm/music/+bookmarks ) which you can find as a new tab on the Music page and in your user avatar drop down menu. This should help you keep track of music recommendations that you want to check out later, but we'd quite like to know how else you plan on using it, and how we might make it more useful.

Lastly, you can now find your recommended events on the main events page https://www.last.fm/events by selecting 'Recommended events' from the 'All events' dropdown menu at the top. This gives you more control over the date and location events are returned for, compared to their previous home https://www.last.fm/home/events.

Love,
Team Last.fm
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Please allow us to opt out of the UI update..

So the UI updates hinted at about 8 months ago just hit for me, and I am less than impressed. I wildly prefer the previous look of the website, and I wish there could be an option in the settings to revert to the previous configuration, opposed to this bubbly update. The increased features are nice, and I'm sure some people would prefer the updated interface. But for those of us that don't like the design of it, please give us the option to go back.
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Registered here and today just to show my 100% disapproval for this abysmal visual "upgrade"?? I literally want to stop using the service if the track pages really are about to look this bad, HIRE SOMEONE WITH DESIGN SENSE
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Joey Costello

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I agree, I really hope there's a way to revert back to the old design or AT LEAST fix the Track - Artist problem.
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Conan Smith

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I actually liked the update , everything is just too big that's the only problem I have which I am sure will go away after I get used to the new layout
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Frankenrin

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They have a great track record with listening to user feedback like this here, so I'm sure you'll be heard and a rollback will be available in 5 to 6 years.
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utahman1971

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Track record of massive downtime. This site is always screwed up since the new design after CBS bought it.
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ThisIsQrobur

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No, no, no, no, NO!  How on earth can Last.fm make the same mistake as it did in 2015 and insist on the hated 'Track-Artist' order when the natural and preferred order of the vast majority of people is 'Artist-Track'?  How can an organisation simply not learn from its mistakes in this way?  Set it back the way it was.  At the same time remove the boldface for the track title and reduce the vertical cell size of the track listing table so I can see more than one and half tracks on my screen.

It's ludicrous that Last.fm can get this wrong twice.


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In Russian we have the word "необучаемость" (neobuchayemost'), which literally means "learning disability", but often has a shade of meaning "inability to learn from one's own mistakes". It seems that Last.fm has a pretty severe case of neobuchayemost'.
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I could never understand why "Track-Artist" order is a thing. Does someone really like it? I think it's completely counterintuitive. And i see only people who dislike it

Is there any point to use that? Are there actually people that like it but not vocal about it? What if people like us just miss something? (though everything implies that it's just a bad design - as simple as that)
I just really want to know why some websites started to use that, because i feel totally confused. And i try to rationalize that

Would be really nice is someone who was in charge of deciding to do that answer and maybe remove some confusion
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I got used to it pretty quickly tbh. having been a Spotify user for 10 years guess helped a tad with that ;)
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I have been using the system of "Track - Artist" for years (ever since my LJ days back in 2006), and I prefer it that way. :) Again I use the example of talking to someone in real life. I would say: "Hey you know there's this song by that band that just came out? It's really great!" That's how I view it anyway. :)
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Ensor

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@Ranunculus: We have a similar word in English: RETARDED. Which is what this update is...
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Spotify doesn't have "track - artist" either, because It uses a two line format.  The preferred single line format of the vast majority is 'artist - track'.

It's worth pointing out that Last.fm advertises itself as a recommendation site and I would guess 99.9% of people are looking for artist recommendations, not track recommendations.  So why put the track first and in bold?  That suggests the developers don't know what the point of the site is.
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I actually like it. I've never been on this site before and am surprised to see people complaining about it. Maybe Last.fm should give people the option of switching back to how it was if they prefer. 
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I bet they will revert it soon as an subscribers only feature.

You may think that I'm sarcastic, but I aint at the moment
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SillyMusicLover

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I bet they will revert it soon as an subscribers only feature.

You may think that I'm sarcastic, but I aint at the moment
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ZuClann .

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they introduce a new trend, like in jews, write the right to the left)))) (facepalm)
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Inseut

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Track-Artist is so intuitive like Month-Day-Year.

Yes, Americans, Month-Day-Year is completely counter-intuitive. Just like Fahrenheit.
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Inseut

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Track-Artist is so intuitive like Month-Day-Year.

Yes, Americans, Month-Day-Year is completely counter-intuitive. Just like Fahrenheit.
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So is anyone gonna make an update where the app can keep track of the songs. Cuz whenever i play something theres a chance it doesnt even scrobble which is dumb.
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@Team Last.fm
Could you give us the explanation/reasoning behind major changes? I am really curious how do you justify a 'Track-Artist' order. And also (in your opinion) what precisely makes new artist page better than the previous version?
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I'd like to know just what is the reasoning behind putting time, effort and money into an unnecessary UI refresh when we've been waiting since 2015 for the promised return of a butt-load of features we lost in that "update"! After all, we're constantly being told that LFM are short of the money and manpower needed to speed up development.

I'm sure that many of us would also like to know when and where the public lynching of the person responsible for diverting resources to this disaster is to take place...
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They paid billions of dollars for the site, and that is why they are out of money. Flipping stupid to pay that much and not have any money to keep it running smoothly. It is consistently going down daily. They are the worst developers in the world.
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It is even better than I thought it would be !!! AMAZING
But where is voting system for false or correct spelling of artists and song or album names?
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cocieto

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They finally admitted they don’t care about that database anymore as the site will shut down in 2021 max.
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zoner

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When did they say it's shutting down?
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Tom Stephen

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Same question here. I hope it's a joke, though it would be really bad joke.
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Artur Ost

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@cocieto It's for good. You can't keep running a social site these days by completely ignoring users requests...
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Ensor

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@Gino Gigiki:
But where is voting system for false or correct spelling of artists and song or album names?
Come on...when did our taking the time to click those buttons ever make a blind bit of difference? :-(
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Well, here we have another site that thinks that every site should be "mobile friendly", on a desktop (or similar screen greater than a mobile device). Why is there so much space wasted on pointless padding, I have to constantly scroll to be able to see anything.

Another point, where is the option to set  the recent scrobbles back to Artist-Track instead of this weird Track-Artist.

About the artist page, I'm not sure this is much an improvement of the old one. Again a lot of wasted space with padding. And I'm not sure about using the profile picture in that way, it can create some weird pages especially when no picture are available:
https://www.last.fm/music/Hil


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xcx

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exactly. artist page was better before imo...
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Also, on a desktop, because it takes only a part of the image for the header, it can cut the image so it will look weird. For example, here the lead singer's head on the picture is just cut in half
https://www.last.fm/music/Korn

It looks as though they intended it completely for mobile devices and didn't even test it on a desktop
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Yeah, looks like that is indeed the case. 

Great redesign...
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Cornel Diaconu

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Well, the current desktop (browser) layout of last.fm is by no means mobile-oriented, despite your first time impression : on the phone the page have the recent tracks list displayed  with track name bold, and ABOVE the artist name; Listening reports graphs are under the recent tracks, and then comes the Top Artists; a.s.o.
Here a glance at my phone's display with my home page:

They are pretty different, so you can't say that this design is mobile-oriented in any particular way.

I am already accustomed to the Track - Artist format (I admit I still prefer the Artist - Track) so I don't feel this is some significant loss, after all.
I think this is to align somehow to Spotify way, since they also use this order of appearance in the desktop app.
Perhaps this is a trend all around ? Users of iTunes/Apple mUsic, or Deezer etc may confirm if it's so.
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It doesn't mean that it's GOOD!
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It's a pity that the Recent Scrobbles don't look like that on the desktop version of the site - I quite like the title above the artist name.

Like you, @Cornel, I've got used to the slightly illogical Track - Artist arrangement. I'd prefer it reversed, or an option to choose, but it's not the nightmare issue some people are making it out to be.

Artistic design choices are subjective in nature, although something like the Main Image on artist pages objectively needs doing something with, as the way it's been designed is basically incompatible with the image libraries. The majority of uploaded images have a portrait layout but the Main Image space is a narrow landscape slot. Not very well thought out...
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I've been on this site for 13 years now. I've gotten used to/preferred every update so far. This one - no. These things have gotta go, and they have gotta go FAST:
  • Song - Artist
  • The bolded song titles
And as for the positives, I like the how the event list looks and prefer that font, and everything else i can live with. i might even get used to the bolded titles, just put the damn artist first.
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I've gotten used to/preferred every update so far. This one - no.
I completely agree with you and your points. And the extreme spacing between tracks/things organized in lists should go too.
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Struggling to find a single positive here - the worst thing is the amount of scrolling that has to be done just to cover the same info that took about two-thirds as long to scroll through before. Sheer waste of space, in short.
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This is mad ugly bro. The Recent Tracks and Top Tracks section on our profiles look absolutely rancid and use up way too much space. Track-Artist also makes no sense.

Don't worry, just like in 2015 when you "updated" the site to lose half of its features, I'm sure I'll be forced to get used to it since there's no alternative to this website out there. I just want old Last.fm back but I can only get a website that updates at a snail's pace and only makes questionable UI changes that don't improve anything.
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Instead of working on infinite problems with bugs you made this piece of shit update. It's unbelievable how you don't care about this site. I really want my pre-update Last.fm back!
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If the goal of the updates is to divert remaining userbase from using the site - this update is spot-on. Good job, Thomas Hooper and team Last.fm. 

P.S. I'm browsing the site on my 1920x1080 desktop while listening to MP3's in foobar2000 with Artist - Title order. Can I have a little respect? Not much, just a tiny bit? 
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Please revert the design/style of the recent tracks section back to how it was, it is harder to look at and navigate and takes up way too much space. THose play buttons on the left are twice the size they need to be.
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Tom Stephen

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Seriously, again.. I once told what I think about new layout of song pages, and I stand with my previous opinion. But for previous "song pages are ugly" I should add - everything is ugly. And it's not that kind ugly that this "beta-change" in 2015, it's much worse. It's just mobile-only oriented.
Also, what someone above mentioned.... "song - artist" order?? Seriously, after what we all told you last time Last.fm invented this? You really just want to push your features no matter the cost, don't you? Only this can explain why you come back again and again to failed ideas like "change layout sometimes, everyone will be super happy, and noone will notice that we still miss many great features from pre-2015 Last.fm"

Shortly: -9/10 (one point, because I imagine you could make even worse mess)
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Also, why the hell making your lists of "songs getting more popular" a way into normal pages? I'm really not needing shit pop music under I Hate Models or any other listened artist page.
And this 5 comments limit per page shoutbox is just a joke. Guys, my heart hurts.......
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Tom Stephen

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And where is "people listening the most" feature? ;_;
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Wander

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I waited so much for grid view to be back, it's absurd you've put the function just for subscribers, extremely disappointed.
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Tom Stephen

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Yeah, the only one good thing this update did, and the thing we had before 2015, is now paid. Disappointed as well.
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I am probably one of the few who doesn't have any immediate gripes with the new layout. =/ For me everything looks more organized. I like the bold text and I feel the columns of my recent tracks are more easy to follow with the help of padding. With the previous layout the "artist - song" was all squished to one side of the rows. I like the "Play now" arrows next to each track, they're more defined and I like the :"Top tracks" section where you have the song title above and artist below.

Profile wise the only thing I would also like more defined is the area where you leave a shout. Before there was an obvious box where you knew where to leave a shout, but with the new design it's more open-concept and makes me squint a little bit, haha.

I also don't mind the new layout via artist pages. I have been browsing artists and I've noticed that sometimes a smidge of the artists full image gets cut off (like the top 5% of someones head).

I honestly don't see what the big deal is. For someone like myself who can be OCD, I find it easy to navigate and I welcome a fresh take after seeing the same site layout for 4 years.
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If you don't understand what the deal is then I suggest you to use Wayback Machine and check how last.fm used to look in, say, 2006. 
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Well, we're not living in 2006 are we? We're in 2019 where technology is different, layouts of social sites are more complex. I for one don't like staying in the past, I look at the now, and this is how the site looks as of 2019. :)
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If you'd actually bother to take a look at 2006 design than you'd be laughing at your  "layouts of social sites are more complex" phraze. 
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There's no need to pick a fight, I am not one of thse people who has pitchforks ready and wants to burn LFM at the stake. :)

2006 LFM is boxy, very little graphics and looks very similar to Facebook from 2006 as well. Facebook has evolved, just as LFM has.

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@carnagexcandy: Progress isn't a problem if it's for the better. But every time LFM release a major update it's a step backwards in usability and features. There's a myriad of problems and bugs that need addressing, but no we'll just work on making usability worse instead...

This used to be a brilliant website before it was systematically dismantled.
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Matter of opinion. I think it's an improvement. Everyone screamed bloody murder when the Beta version was released in 2015 and they're still using the site. Same thing will happen here.

Users who are posting in this topic are aggressive and hostile. Who's going to listen to an angry mob who uses words like "retarded" and complains about the layout when they provide no constructive criticism at all? (There are a few people here who have given proper feedback without the emotion of hate). I'm sure the moderators/developers would appreciate less flaming/aggressive comments and would welcome intelligent feedback.
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Yes, the 2015 "update" was damn awful. It removed a lot of functionality which we were promised would return in due course...4 years down the line we're still waiting. And now they give us another update which is even worse.

And no, a lot of people are no longer using the site. Users have been leaving in droves. Seems only a hardcore are left. My profile page USED to be my homepage, now I hardly visit at all. With this latest downgrade I may just knock it on the head completely.

As for constructive criticism, I'd love to give some. Sadly there isn't a single thing about this disaster which is praiseworthy in any way.

RIP LFM.
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If you do delete your profile, I'm sure there's someone right behind your making a new account. There are 7.5 billion people on the planet, so I don't think anyone will notice your account is inactive.

I'm really curious now. Can someone provide statistical data comparing site usage from say 2014 to 2019? Everyone keeps saying nobody uses the site, so I'm hoping someone could provide flow charts, diagrams showing a decline? Thanks! That would be very much appreciated. :)
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People that don't leave Last.fm are doing this not because it's "proof of good change, even if criticised" or because they're hypocrites - they just don't have good alternative, or they just love LFM that much that even if it hurts, they stay. Or both of these points (my case)
For constructive criticism - if you look at this topic and doesn't see constructive criticism (pointing out what's wrong), I'm afraid you're blind.
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People that don't leave Last.fm are doing this not because it's "proof of good change, even if criticised" or because they're hypocrites - they just don't have good alternative, or they just love LFM that much that even if it hurts, they stay. Or both of these points (my case)
For constructive criticism - if you look at this topic and doesn't see constructive criticism (pointing out what's wrong), I'm afraid you're blind.
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They are hypocrites, they complain and threaten to leave but don't.

I did say some people left constructive criticism, but most are "OMG tHiS iS sT00pId". I'm sure the mods look over nonsensical posts.
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I'm going to support @carnagexcandy. I mainly use last.fm on mobile and this update looks beautiful, IMO. Scrobbling since 2008, i mainly miss last.fm groups, but this is the only thing that I can remember that's really missing. Everything else is getting better.
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@Tchok_ When I look at your avatar and your comment I see some serious demon possession!!!...
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Please revert to old "artist-title" template. You made the same mistake again, why? Also, please make everything smaller, why is everything so big? Mobile-friendly? Then make a "touch" version of the website, and make a proper one for desktop. Why do I have to constantly scroll or even change the scaling?

Artists' pages. They seem okay except that all photos which people uploaded to fit in the circle are not making any sense. Also there's enough place to write the whole number of scrobbles (1,000,000 instead of 1M). I don't know why everybody began to do that. I would prefer to see the whole number. You don't make the profile scrobbles this way, right (don't tell me you are going to)?

Also I would become a subscriber if you give the ability to get old sidebar back and change username.
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Oh well, this change precisely reminds me why I haven't subscribed to Last.fm in years. Track - Artist order in recent tracks, bloated look everywhere now (Too much spacing in between tracks on recent tracks, top tracks etc. and artist page header), similar artists now below the shoutbox.... Just a reminder to people not to get so worked up over it, they've made changes like this in the past and haven't reverted changes based on feedback so it's a choice of accepting it the way it is now or not using the site at all.
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Yeah. They really don't care for the feedback, I've been seeing the same thing for years. The only reason this site is still holding a somewhat decent userbase is because they literally have no competition. If anyone else offered similar features, but in a website that wasn't so stupid (I don't think they realize there are desktop users out there), I would gladly put my money there. It's been a long time since subscribing to Last.fm was worth it, no plans of doing it again for now.
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Yeah I agree, I'd strongly look at switching if there was an alternative. Each iteration of new web design just seems to get worse and worse on Last.fm.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled At least make recent scrobbling like before..

I'm not really satisfied with new update however I think that I'm nit the only one who hate order of Artist and song name in recent scrobbles. Now it's song name-artist. But before it was better artist- name of song. So please at least repair this.
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I don't agree with this statement anymore. Everything is shit now. Please repair all things.
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Gold
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I asked a few weeks ago whether the Grid format for our library would be available to non-subscribers anytime soon, an admin said they'd check out, but didn't respond so far, so... is it? It's a bit weird that we have to pay for something that not only was for free before, but it was the default layout. It's honestly one of the layout changes I never got used to and wished to get it back, the grid format is much better than the list format imo. 
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I agree with you, sad.
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Guilherme

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I loved the changes, relax that soon everyone will get used to the changes.
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It's why corporations are living like parasite on us, because we all get used to everything. And while there are some great exceptions (game industry, which is way more aimed on quality, because loss of quality means going bankrupt), there are lots of industries where corporation force their own view and it has no impact on them.

For anyone defending - Last.fm wasn't CBS initiative, so now indeed CBS is living like parasite, out of great concept made by someone else.

Anyway - I respect your different opinion. My comment is just made because you fairly stated about "getting used", which I see as a huge power of mankind, yet really shitty power as well :(
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what's the point of changes to profiles when there is still no real "about me" section so nobody bothers visiting them
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Tom Stephen

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This make me laugh, but maybe because it's so true.
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y'all are never satisfied, I mean .. the site has been "abandoned" for a while and now that they're at least trying to improve things, you just complain. how about being less aggressive and more grateful to give an opinion? just thinking.. 
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but nothing has been improved, they just made a half-assed layout update and didn't focus on the million bugs and databse problems this website has and also put as "subscriber feature" one we used to have FOR FREE. being satisfied and grateful for this is a joke
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we all congratulated them when they brought up the edit scrobbles feature - that was a good update. this one simply isn't
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more pelos menos eles tão tentando, já é um começo. quer mais 3 anos de site abandonado? então engole essa porra 
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Marcus Vinicius

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they aren't trying, this feature was available for beta-testers for months. the beta-testers gave negative feedback and this feedback wasn't taken into account, from what I see. 
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Ok, that's your opinion and I think you're right in giving your feedback, but there are people here overreacting for such small things, I think it's unfair in some cases
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Improved? Are you kidding me? The site lacks important features since 2015. The BETA stage should be like a year or even less. Way less time and they only dragged it on, and on. Perhaps they didn't foresee some problems along the way, and that's why it has taken them so long to get things done. Who knows? I miss the old Last.FM: the lists, the blogs, the groups, and proper introductions with enough space! I’d love to see the ability to change your username. One of the most notable features on last.FM! 

It’s still under consideration, and since then we didn’t get any announcements about that topic. The inbox should be modernized and have a professional look. The current inbox lacks important features. I made a thread suggesting what should be installed, and they flagged my suggestion as “under consideration.” (https://getsatisfaction.com/lastfm/topics/a-better-message-center

Let’s see how long it will take them to implement them. I also miss email notifications like, someone posting a shout in my shoutbox and they email me about it. That needs to be implemented again. I also miss the activity thing on the right side, as if people will know if I posted a shout in some shoutbox or I uploaded a new photo for an artist. I also miss a little tiny feature that might not everybody cares much about it. 

The number of shouts in artist and user pages. I like to see if an artist got like 1000 shouts. I miss the shout count so much. I’m sorry, but what Danlev and I have been discussing about several weeks ago, proves enough that this site is not what it used to be after enormous updates four years ago. One of the most detested features track - artists have made a comeback again, and everybody loathed that feature so much! Why are you implementing something that caused so much grief four years ago? The mind boggles.
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@Patrick: Well said!
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Patrick

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Thanks Ensor!
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On the track- album- artist-page I don't see any options anymore to help Last.fm with the correcting of the spelling of those things:  the buttons YES (green) NO (red)

Have those now gone or will there be a new alternative shortly?
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I hadn't realised that - now that is the pits.

I was considering subscribing, for the edit feature, cos there are certain tracks I just can't play any more, for the horlicks LFM makes of them, even when Spotify gets everything right (for a change), e.g. for the same copy of Memo For Turner by Mick Jagger I've previously listened to a dozen times, LFM in its wisdom has decided to add, in inverted commas, "Mick Jagger version". Or The Pioneers' version of Papa Was a Rolling Stone, which LFM have decided in their infinite wisdom is not by the Pioneers at all, but by someone called Norman. The list is endless...

But now, instead of fixing that and similar, they've done this pointless, ugly, user-unfriendly redesign. So I guess I probably won't be subscribing after all. 
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I really think you should be focusing more on trying to fix problems with the site (i.e. capitalization, wrongly merged tracks, wrongly merged artists) instead of trying to change the design and getting a ton of complains from users.
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While I don't have such a negative view of the visual update (perhaps because as a subscriber, I've got used to it now), I definitely agree that I wish we had more functional updates like you mention. The edit-scrobble feature was a terrific recent update (although I realise it's subscriber-only), but they seem to be few and far between.

To my mind, the priority should be the functionality and bug removal, then the gloss on top.
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WiktoRozrabiaka

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Please, revert the style of the recent tracks section. It is way too big and it should be artist - track order.
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WiktoRozrabiaka

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And where is "people listening the most"? I really liked this feature

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WiktoRozrabiaka

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And why do only 5 shouts show up on the artist page?
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WiktoRozrabiaka

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But i do like the new Youtube player
The scrobbling stats are okay, but in my opinion it should have a option to switch between week, month, year etc. and it would be nice to see your own listening trends in this graphic.
I think the artist page layout would be better if the main photos were on the left, and the other information on the right
and we don't need the simliiar artists section twice
Also the trending tracks on the bottom are unnecessary, not everyone gives a f.. about the most popular mainstream things. There should be a separate page for those tracks for people that finds it interresting.
Otherwise the things i mentioned, i think the new look isn't that bad (except the track pages I don't like at all. They are very unclear and chaotic). I only don't really enjoy the white color everywhere, it doesn't look very good, especially at night. Maybe the whole background could be the color of the top of the page? Or just simply make a dark night version that could be activated in the options
Actually, I think the best thing would be a creator that would let the users adjust the look of the site, or at least choose one of a few different layers they like the most (some people like the new look, but they are also a lot of people that prefer oldschool style).

I appreciate your work and new updates that you constantly relase. It's nice the site is still alive, but I think you guys focus on the less important things all the time. In my opinion, in the first place you should add things people are asking for for several years now, like bringing back the groups and of course the redirections that everyone is waiting for and simple things like sorting the library in alphabetical order and editing comments.

Btw. where are the "right-name yes or no buttons"? Aren't there any options of reporting bad titles/artist names?
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Sorry but I don't like the new update. The track titles are too big and they should be ordered Artist/Title. Also the page just keeps crashing now and not listing any tracks or artists!
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Bring back "Artist - Track" please. It's more demonstrative. The "Track - Artist" format looks like a mess, it feels like everything is upside down in my charts. The majority of last.fm users look at the "Artist" column first not the "Track Name" column when they visit any website's profile. And now it feels like all of us have to read "from right to left" instead of "from left to right" so to speak. Very uncomfortable and not chart-demonstrative at all. I don't enjoy scrobbling when website displays it this way unfortunately. I have to add that nobody seriously even cares about "Track Name"... 
"Oh, what a wounderful music, what's it?" - "It's "Track Name" song" - "WTF???" Very demonstartive, isn't it?
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Is there any chance of removing the word "Scrobbles" from the 1st place artist/album/song?  We know it's scrobbles, having the word there makes the chart page look sloppy.  To see that word there after being on the site for 14 years, it's plain awkward.
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Agree with those preferring the Artist - Track order.

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