What's wrong with Blackdeath artist page?

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I've recently found that Blackdeath artist page only contains the following: " This page is not available

Access to this page has been denied.

This page may contain inappropriate content that violates Last.fm‘s Terms and/or applicable laws. Alternatively it may have been blocked on the request of a third party.

You can go back to where you were or start again from the home page.", same as 2 years ago (https://getsatisfaction.com/lastfm/topics/access-to-this-page-has-been-denied).

Is it forever and not subject to appeal? Will scrobbling statistics be taken into account for such bands?
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DarthPlagueis

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Erkan Yilmaz

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The only times I've seen such a message was when they violated lastfm TOC,
  e.g. the cases I saw were right-winged "NAZI" themed bands

iirc individual user/listener pages, listens by group, ... had the amount of scrobbles,
but the artist page just showed that message

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Tom Stephen

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That's ridiculous.. so now whole NSBM and RAC bands will be banned?

...not to mention, as far as I know, Blackdeath is not even NSBM, they're just ordinary black metal band.
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Patrick

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I can scrobble them manually by using a desktop application, but I cannot access the page. When I do that, I get the message that you described. Is it possible that this site has started censoring musicians? I've seen musicians far worse including Charles Manson that committed serial crimes almost 50 years ago and I don't see Moderators doing anything about that. I find this ridiculous as Tom Stephen said.
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DarthPlagueis

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As of https://getsatisfaction.com/lastfm/topics/access-to-this-page-has-been-denied , Blackdeath's page was blocked as far as 2 years ago. According to https://web.archive.org/web/20090523221253/https://www.last.fm/music/Blackdeath , their page was last available in 2009. Now it's blocked "on the request of a third party" (I guess, it's rightholder or something).

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This is nothing new, we've always taken down pages when legally required to.  The pages can't be accessed, but you can still scrobble them.
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Patrick

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That's ridiculous! Why would somebody report an artist page that has been there for all these years just like that? What about this "musician?" I don't see anyone reporting his page or the page of his "band" considering how many troubles he caused in the 90's. Especially what he did to a 17-year-old girl and one individual in Massachusetts 27 years ago. Commonly known as "The Bottle Incident." Anyway, I hope Jon will tell us a reason why this happened.

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Jon, Community & Customer Services

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It looks like this page has been taken down for legal reasons.  I don't know the background behind this one, I'll try to find out tomorrow (the legal team have already left for the day).  
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DarthPlagueis

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Did you find out from the legal team what happened to this page?
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Jon, Community & Customer Services

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I'm not at liberty to discuss the details, but it looks like this was blocked on the 17th of November 2015 at the request of a third party, not a violation of our terms.
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Profoundemonium

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Discogs or MusicBrainz have never been legally forced to block access to specific artist pages. Why is this not the case for Last.fm?

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DarthPlagueis

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Because of their parent company (CBS), I suppose.
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Jon, Community & Customer Services

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I can't speak for other websites, but as commercial website that advertises against artist, album, and track pages, occasionally we're forced to take down pages for legal reasons.  It's regrettable, and we apologise for the inconvenience, but there's very little that can be done on our side once it reaches that point. As fans, you could of course petition the band on social media and ask them to reconsider -- that would probably have more weight than our legal team.
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DarthPlagueis

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Thanks for the answer, I consider that question is answered.
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Hopefully there will be a way to distinguish identically-named artists soon, since they are hit by these measures innocently.