Why are some YouTube videos not allowed to be played on last.fm?

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Why is it that when I copy the links from some YouTube videos to paste onto Last.fm the site tells me that these select videos cannot be played on Last.fm?

(I know that this question might have been asked before, but I wanted to see if there is some updated progress/info on the topic...)

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He's dead, Jim!

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Because the person(s) that put up the video don't allow it to be embedded.
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Patrick

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I noticed that same issue too. I was able to listen to this track with no problem several days ago. https://www.last.fm/music/Obituary/No+(Single) Now, I'm not. I don't think this has anything to do with a copyright violation issue. I believe the LFM team has personal conflicts with musicians, but they refuse to tell us.
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He's dead, Jim!

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I just checked https://www.last.fm/music/Obituary/No/No and it works. So much for your conspiracy theory.
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Patrick

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It didn't work yesterday.
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I've found that occasionally it's just a very stubborn video. If you keep submitting it (sometimes up to a dozen or more times!), eventually it seems to relent - don't know why, though.
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This was identified in testing -- it doesn't actually work.  If you repeatedly submit the same video over and over, what happens eventually is the javascript that checks if a video can be played doesn't load correctly, which then allows you to submit an unplayable video.  Everything will look fine until you or someone else tries to play the video, at which point it'll be identified as unplayable and removed from the track.  A similar thing happens with some adblocker extensions -- the javascript for checking the video doesn't load, so the video appears to be submitted correctly until you play it.  So, if in doubt, reload the page and then play the video.

 
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I had that happen for me once in a while, too, thanks for explaining.

By the way, the other day I noticed that videos from Phil Collins' official YouTube channel can be embedded on his Last.fm track pages (all brand-new audio-only uploads in 1080p, i.e. also with a high audio quality), and I wondered why so many hits did not have one yet / anymore. So this changes all the time, also because there are new deals between major labels and YouTube. Trying to add an official video still (or again) makes sense sometimes, except if it comes from Vevo which still do not allow embedding on third-party sites.

Update:
Same for Red Hot Chili Peppers, also a Warner Brothers artist like Phil Collins, so it is possible to add some official videos again that were automatically removed from Last.fm track pages earlier. For example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwlogyj7nFE



https://www.last.fm/music/Red+Hot+Chili+Peppers/_/Under+the+Bridge

Keep in mind that it takes more than one user to add the same link to the track page for the video to become globally available, i.e. for all other users, no matter if they are logged in or not.
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As we know, YouTube has a Content ID system.

Hans-Jurgen confirmed that most Warner Music artists can be embedded onto Last.FM without any problems, and AFAIK, most indie artists are safe too. Sony, Universal and VEVO artists are blocked immediately.
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I wonder why they're blocked. Surely they still get the view hits even when it's embedded?
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Patrick

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I'm asking myself the same question. We didn't have this problem three years ago.
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By the way, official videos by Prince can be embedded right now from his YouTube channel, too. So it makes sense to try it with other artists as well, as copyright agreements might have changed in the meantime:

https://www.youtube.com/user/prince/about
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I'm pretty sure it's VEVO videos that can't be played on Last.fm. I haven't been able to post a single one.
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Action Radar

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I tested a few VEVO videos out tonight and they're playing again. Only Sony's artists won't play at all.
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Update: As of July 2018, Universal Music Group (UMG) has finally caved in, and the company's studio recordings can play videos on Last.FM without problems. [In the USA at least]. That means we don't have to deal with as many live versions or remixes as before.

This leaves VEVO and SME (Sony Music Entertainment) as the only major labels that are blocked from Last FM.

A couple months ago YouTube launched a new feature that lets users know what song's playing in any video, as well as the labels/publishers/rights societies that are earning money.
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Happy to confirm that VEVO videos are playable on the site again (all except artists on labels owned by Sony).
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Patrick

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Finally, it was about time to hear the great news.