Is this a scam?

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Aaron

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Aaron

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I have become increasingly frustrated with Microsoft and the crappy software and services they put out. Photsynth is no different; I try to use a Debian Linux operating system and they say "they're too cool for my OS." What kind of horsecrap is this? Are you really too lazy to make something that everyone can use?
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iPhoto doesn't work on Windows and there are loads of Linux programs that don't run on Windows...so how is this any different? Why is everyone else exempt of this except Microsoft? Oh yeah, I forgot, you're just trolling, because Microsoft actually made something "cool"
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I beleive the error says your OS is too cool for them. Perhaps you should take a closer look at such things.
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Shafiq Jetha

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@tsullivan: I think Aaron was commenting on the lack of support for non Microsoft OSes, not at the actual message itself.
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Claire Quilty

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It almost sounds like this topic you started is designed to inflame user comment. Sorry you are not happy with the product. It is in its early stages.
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Shafiq Jetha

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Microsoft has to protect it's investments first and foremost. The fact that Silverlight runs cross-browser, cross-platform shows that Microsoft can make everyone happy, even on other operating systems.
Photosynth is still a new technology and I doubt that they will never release software for the other OSes out there, but it will take time. I'm still waiting for 3D Live Local to come to the Mac, but I'm waiting patiently.
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i don't understand the limitations. seems like MS can't decide whether they want a web service or a software application to install on a host, so they made a combination of the worst of both?
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Shafiq Jetha

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This is the new Microsoft: Software + Services. Get used to it.
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I agree with Shafiq-- the internet is radically changing, as is the desktop. SAAS, or Software As A Service, is the new industry standard. Photosynth is an amazing technology that's in beta-- meaning development. Open standards nowadays promotes beta software for public usage so the final product can be even more incredible than the preview is.

To judge photosynth now and say its the worst combination is a little harsh for something incomplete. If you have such an issue with it, why don't you get on board for the tech preview and tell them WHY?
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Aaron,
How about a bit of maturity on this discussion. Props to Microsoft for doing what they do. For a company that is constantly getting knocked by the likes of you, they sure do produce some great products and keep the majority interested and happy
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Claire Quilty

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Here here!
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Works fine for me on a Mac (hackintosh) with Vmware fusion 2 beta.

Works on Ubuntu as well, in a VM with Directx enabled.

Can you tell, I like all three OS's.
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Surely you chose to use linux, knwoing what the limitations would be?
Why should they jump to it, to produce software just to keep you happy?
Adobe don't make photoshop for Linux either, and Apple don;t make Logic for windows or Linux, it's just the way things are, suck it up, and accept it.
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Shafiq Jetha

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To be fair, Apple creates a lot of software that's Mac-only. They are now what Microsoft was about 10 years ago.
And I don't think most people choose Linux for it's 'limitations'.
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Mr Moon

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I don;t mean they choose Linux because of it's limitations, but they should surely consider it's limitations when choosing.
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Erm... i cant say im really that impressed, when i tried it i couldnt get the 3d effect or view the images from the all angles. also do i detect a hint of Google technology in there like from ggole maps.
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luke_at_ukvoipnet_dot_co_dot_uk

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oh now i see the 3d effect, well i am impressed, erm...ok then next new thing...
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Guys, we're working on making it crossplatform. But just so you know, one key reason that Photosynth combines software with services is that we're using the software to actually do the synthing-- this is much more scalable and environmentally friendly than doing it all on server farms. We want as many people as possible to be able to view and create synths, but making the software element crossplatform is a lot harder than making an ordinary website crossplatform! Of course smooth 3D graphics is also not something that web browsers do well without a bit of help.
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Shafiq Jetha

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Hey! You're the guy from the video! Sweet!!
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Mr Moon

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Does it really not annoy you that almost straight after release, someone moans about there not being a Linux version? Do you really not feel like grabbing him by the throat and shouting "use another OS then" at him?
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Hey, as an avid follower of Microsoft Research, and especially the Photosynth technology, I applaud your efforts. I see alot of really amazing uses for the synth tech, and I've already begun applying Synth to my ASP.net projects-- its invaluable, and drastically reduces time needed for an old fashioned java panorama.

In short, thank you so much for the amazing work, and don't stop doing what you're doing. I'm highly impressed, and so is everybody that I work with. Mac users and Linux, too. (Aaron.)
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I generally support this product. It is very good. I would however appreciate an answer to this question though and this seems to be the topic to post it in.

Why can http://www.runescape.com/ do browser only 3D and PhotoSynth can't. If there are political reasons behind this then I beg you to reconsider.
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Runescape is written in Java, which is as plugin as they come, amigo, so it's disingenuous to say that it is doing 'browser-only 3D'.

And for those who don't know, yes, Java (third party software from Sun) is completely different to Javascript, which all browsers since Netscape support.
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helen raii

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