Live Labs is joining Bing!

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After nearly five years as a lab within Microsoft, the Live Labs team is transitioning to Bing. We're going to bring our web expertise and hopefully revolutionize the search experience.

The exact details of our transition and what this means for our current experiments, products and services have yet to be worked out, but we will keep you all posted as things get settled. [Update posted]

On behalf of the whole Live Labs team, I want to thank all of you for your amazing encouragement, feedback and support through our work. Without you, we would be nowhere.

All the best!
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Nathanael Lawrence

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It's a bittersweet day. The Bing team will be the better for it, but I can't say that I won't miss Live Labs in its various incarnations.

I hope that much of the spirit that ran through Live Labs can live on, even though the team members will in all probability drift further apart over time.

I'm not sure what the plans are for this Get Satisfaction forum, being that the team has moved on, but I hope that it won't disappear entirely. I would hope that it can remain online if only in read-only form. If there's any chance that it will be taken completely offline, I would be extremely interested in acquiring a zip of the entire archive as the feedback hosted here is invaluable as history and troubleshooting data. The same goes for the Live Labs Pivot forum.
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Aseem Kishore, Former Employee

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Nathanael, good news: this forum will remain as is. =)
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Nathanael Lawrence

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Thanks for the confirmation, Aseem, and many thanks for all the time you've spent engaging with the community. I know a lot of people have really appreciated your in depth answers.

All the best to all of you, wherever your paths lead.
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Aseem Kishore, Former Employee

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Thanks for the kind words, Nathanael!
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I haven't really paid attention to corporate goings on and didn't learn about your move to Bing until this morning.
I'm with SharePoint UA and I've worked with Dan to get one of our huge technical posters converted to the zoom.it format. Our posters are very popular with our customers but cannot be viewed online. Zoom.it represented a huge customer win.
We're showing our zoom and pan technical diagram this afternoon. I'd really appreciate knowing the future of zoom.it --- it is a must have technology for us.
Best of luck to you folks going forward.
dan wesley
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Dan, hopefully Aseem can give you a solid answer about the zoom.it domain, hosting of the viewer files, the dual AJAX|Silverlight embed, and API, but the Deep Zoom format has been around for years now and is still being actively used in Photosynth, Silverlight Deep Zoom, PivotViewer, etc. Moreover, standalone tools for converting images to DZIs exist in deepzoomtools.dll and Deep Zoom Composer, so even if the zoom.it site goes away, the ability to continue to convert images to the format, host them where you want them, and serve them up to customers remains at your disposal.
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Aseem Kishore, Former Employee

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Good news: Zoom.it is staying up! =)
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Glad to hear you are moving on.. up? In the world. Thanks for creating seadragon.. Now I am going to have to track you down and buy you coffee to get my questions answered aren't I? :D
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Thanks Dustin! I don't drink coffee but am open to other gifts. ;)
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Hi.
Congrats for moving Bing.
BUT, will seadragon ajax developpement continue ?
Any roadmap/timeline for futures releases ?

Thanx
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Good news: Seadragon Ajax will live on! The Microsoft Expression team volunteered to take it over. I don't know yet what the plans are for future development, if any, but just having access to it still -- and a product group at Microsoft now saying they want to continue to support it -- is awesome. =)
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Shame Microsoft has slowly dismantled one of their real valuable resources its 'Live Labs' team. I suppose in essence its an innovation transfer from a think tank team to a business centric team, but a move which closes doors to exciting opportunities.

I hope all goes well and must thank you all for the hard graft which has given us an exciting array of tools and technologies such as Seadragon and Photosynth. The community which has sprung-up around livelabs will miss you.

all the best for the future

Andrew Roberts
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On the bright side, Andrew, Photosynth has lived in Bing Maps group since it released to the web (although Bing Maps was still called Virtual Earth back then).

It won't be the same without Gary Flake at the helm and the group as a standalone entity, but being that Gary had come from Yahoo (a search engine) and Live Labs was widely seen as an answer to Google Labs (again, a lab of a search engine) and considering that Bing was called Live, back when Live Labs was founded, it may not be such an incredible stretch that many Live Labs members' new home be at Bing.

I do hope that they'll be allowed to continue to innovate as a lab inside of Bing, but honestly, who knows? If it means seeing Seadragon or Pivot widely deployed throughout Bing, I won't be disappointed. If Seadragon AJAX can keep performance up, I'd love to have it deployed to Bing Maps AJAX and have Bing Maps load like Seadragon.com's combo viewer - i.e. Silverlight where available, and AJAX where not.

There's also the applied research team inside of Bing that has been doing so much work on the coming Bing Maps innovations. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Live Labs had a hand in some of that in the past, so perhaps there's still a home for them inside of Bing where they can retain some of the spirit that has brought us their work thus far.
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Thanks for the kind words, Andrew, and I second both yours and Nathanael's hopes!